Some Americans Still Have Morals
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 1:10 AM
Was it a set up? Was it ?wardrobe malfunction?? No one will ever know the truth. But right now, both Justin and Janet are facing the consequences. The first thing asked was if there were any one "truly" offended. *raises hand* I was. I am a straight, married man and I know that I was offended. Is Janet a beautiful woman, yes she is. But, NATIONAL TV is not the place for that. There were children watching that show. Dispite what each of our moral values are, there are people out there that would like to watch something and not have to worry about will there be some unforseen nudity.
IMHO, no half time show will ever match up to the Aerosmith and friends version of "Walk This Way" from a few years back.
RE: typical America
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 4:16 AM
And I, Australia and Great Britain, two of the mislead "allies", suppose we need yor money or something.
Seems to smack of hypocracy when TV has nudes all the time, and suddenly a saggy black tit offends "God Bless America", well the saggy bit offended me too, but not the principle.
Rike Lake and Springer are clean???? Who do you guys think you are, no don't tell me, "God", except you can't put the name on public stuff.
For the sake of the children
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 4:53 AM
"... but there were children watching..."
The more I hear this crap, the more it sounds like a cop-out as desperate as the stunt was that sparked this whole thing. I'm really curious, how many people had kids in the room and were offended, and how many had kids in the room and were "offended" (ie, scared to death they may have to talk to their kids and explain something uncomfortable) With all the Limbaughs, Sterns and anyone else with a microphone and an opinion, pepole seem to only want to talk anymore when they have an opinion to express, not a thought to convey. Talk to your kids, the world gives you chances like this everyday. And yes, that's my opinion!
P.S. I wonder how many kids were offended and ran screaming to their rooms, and how many asked "Why did they do that?" and offended their parents?
WTF
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 7:33 AM
I think the biggest thing is that a lot of parents believed her to be "good" and "morally correct" and all that crap, but is there such a thing? im so tired of all the hipocrites in this country, especially parents. Sure there are dangers in the world, but you act like everyone is out against your kids. I understand being protective but you have to realize that you had the same problems when you were a kid or teenager. It really pisses me off when I see parents freaking out about something like this, and while they are out protesting a tit, their teenager is at home downloading porn. I think people should stop being crusaders, and start trying to actually know there kids and let them make there own decisions. Has everyone forgotten that we are still occupying Iraq? Or is everyone bored with that now? Time to find something else to get involved in, right? That's America for you, everyone likes to be involved in something, but never for too long. Besides, no one's even offended by this, they are all just trying to gripe about something because they are bored. Its like letterman said, "[Janet] is pretending to apologize to everyone who is pretending to be offended."
Get over it.
Janet Jackson
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 7:46 AM
I don't think that it's that big of a deal, however, it does desensetize the public to nutity. Clothes were made for a reason, and so were little pasties for nipples. I agree that it shouldn't have been shown on public access television, but honestly it's not that terrible. Also, i think that Janet Jackson looks like Michael Jackson when he was black, she's not in the least bit pretty, her face looks fake, and her nose is pinched. Whoever thinks she's *the most georgeous thing ever* needs to get out more. Also, people, im a 14 year old, and you old people need to grow the hell up and getlives instead of posting messages on online web pages. I'm home sick, so i have an excuse, what's yours?
RE: Jackson's flash
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 9:50 AM
all mothers' breasts aint beautiful or appetizing!!!so you can stop that right now!! that fact that you and others have an opinion is part of the reason she did it; for the most part ,yeah there were kids watching,but most of the kids that were watching werent half-as phased as the adults because we have been soooo desensitized by media for soooo long it was like nothing ever happened.(to the kids that is) but for the adults(men)who say her breast,or any breasts are offensive;i have yet to hear of any man say "get out of my bed","or life","because your breasts are sagging"....and that goes for janet jackson especially....wich one of you men prejudiced or not would kick her out of your car,house,or bed??? keep it real guys!!
RE: Another Boob On TV, Whoopie!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 9:51 AM
Oh Yea, The FCC, They Don't Have Any Bite, Just A Lot Of Bark Like A Toothless Dog. Ummm, Here's A 25,000 Fine, While You Make 60 Million Off This Event.
Peanuts For The Peanut Gallery.
RE: whatevers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 1:47 PM
Ladies & Genitalmen (you know who you are ya pervs) (and yes i spelled that wrong on purpose) and the Gorillas that think Janet is hot, granted she's better looking then MJ, but she looks too much like MJ, and MJ looks too much similar to the female ape from the newer version of The Planet of the Apes, so something is seriously wrong there, as for the spectacle blob of fat on tv, it was hardly noticable, and I'm sure there's not a single guy that was offended, least a normal guy. As for the women they cant complain , they have tits so they cant be offended at all. Last but not least, I'm sure we saw better images of half naked and way better looking girls in the commercials then Janet's pathetic flesh flash.
RE: Isn't it really Justin?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 2:08 PM
How would that reflect silliness on my part? Even though she has "owned up" as you put it it, does not negate the fact that our societal values, or lack there of is what has perpetuated problems of such nature. In fact, the notion that she has "owned up" should raise within you questions regarding the nature of exploitation and its implications on the role of women in our soiciety. Stop and take a look around you!!! More so than man, women are exploited on a daily basis in the work place, on the streets, in schools, everywhere. With the aid of the media and under the mask of entertainment, some these images are brought into our homes while we (men) sit back and encourage this kind of behavior why? because we love it, can't get enough of it. Think about it. Women who expose themselves are seen as Hos but the men who exploit these women are are looked at "Dons", gaining society's respect. How does that make you feel. It is a sad sad thing.
And of course what kind of values are we instilling in our kids. we live in a sick twisted duallistic world.
Some people still care about raising kids
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 2:18 PM
Might come off as a news flash to some of you people, but some people still give a damn about what their kids do, what they're allowed to see, and what they're exposed to. My 5 and 7 year old boys were glued to the TV the moment Janet decided to become a slut.
The superbowl is perhaps the most widely televised sporting event of the year in the USA. My boys and I follow the games through the season, and finally, sit down with more snacks than we can ever consume to watch the big show. As a concerned parent, I don't see the superbowl as something I have to censor from my kids.
In any other context, I might welcome (hell, I'd LOVE) to see what I saw that day, but simply put, it is NOT appropriate for a medium that attracts so many children.
Yes, Dumba$$, they know what a breast is, but do they need to see it at 5 and 7? No. and I hope they throw the book at her.
RE: Re:JJ
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 7:50 PM
...you use that mouth when you kiss your kids? Oh yeah, you said that this is a "New Millenium" and you're not ashamed of anything! . Well, as demonstrated by the overwhelming negative response, mostly from families with children, the majority of Americans don't share your "New Morality" or lack thereof. As for the shows on TV that promote this stuff, that's a good place to start looking when you don't understand why your kids have no respect for women, or shoot up their class mates, or back talk their parents. They've been liberated too, in this "New Millenium" of anything goes, as long as you feel good about yourself. When your daughter is making money in a strip bar someplace because she's not "ashamed of her body" like women of the "new Millenium" and she grew up being proud of Janet Jackson, don't go blaming society.
There's a difference between shame and decency. There are plenty of guys that are real proud of their penis. Should they show that on TV too? We can supress freedom of speech if we say something in the work place that offends somebody, but it's okay for those same folks who may be offended by that to do whatever they want, even if it offends others? I'll tell you what, just advertise that the Superbowl (mind you, not a rated "R" movie, but a sporting event!) will have frontal nudity, and watch how the viewing population declines. If you doubt this, then why did ER pull a scene that contained a breast shot tonight?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 11:53 PM
So Janet Shows her Tits, I was raised in a catholic School and if we even took the name of God in Vain, we were beat with wooden pointers on our calves and you call this OK. The state of our nation and the way we were raised is absolutely deplorable... But it was OK for the Catholic Nuns to beat children... What has happened to our world and what is Justice, in the fact that janet can show her Tits to millions of children and that is supposed to be OK. I believe that MTV knew about this and should be brought down by the masses, but in the World today it seems like anything goes and our 13 and 14 year old children can carry semi automatic weapons and kill people, just for the thrill of it says a lot about how far our society has degraded and how far the morals and upbringinging of our children is bringing our society to its knees. Its the parents of these children that really have no real love or care for there children that these kids can just kill each other for the fun of it and it seems to be accepted in the world today. I am afraid we are getting close to the end times when the Taliban and the Moslem Nation can execute 2,000 or more people, in the terrorist acts of Sept 11, with the World Trade Center Killings..and they do it for there "Religion" What is this world comming to?
Janet's boob at Superbowl
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 5, 2004 11:56 PM
You people just don't get it...?! It doesn't matter wether the stunt was offensive or not, the REAL matter of the situation is WHO MADE THE MOST MONEY FROM IT!!
If you consider the whole sordid tale, EVERYBODY benefited from the gig... Justin, Janet, the NFL, CBS, MTV - The WHOLE crew!!
In marketing terms, "There's no such thing as bad publicity!", especially when you have MILLIONS of viewers AROUND THE GLOBE watching your add...
Then again, if Janet was sleazy enough to pull such a stunt, then all those involved have to ask themselves just where their values - and intere$$$$$ts lie?!
The Reality Is...
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Posted by The Reasoner (tunj7@yahoo.com) on February 6, 2004 1:44 AM
Janet Jacksons' decision to reveal her jewelry clad breast on National Television with over 19 million viewers watching was done for shock value. It was not so much the bearing of her breast that fueled the shock, it was the way it was presented, with an unexpected, aggressive rip from Justin Timberlake, to the tune of "I'll have you naked by the end of this song". Personally, I had no problem with it, the shock felt good. But I can understand that to many others, it was too much to handle. These are the same people that would like to forget that blowjobs have been given in the white house, and that church leaders fondle little boys. I don't know if Janet's flash will serve as a moral wake up call or a simply sign of what is yet to come...but I hope her album sells.
RE: Re:Janet
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 9:18 AM
So you shouldn't remove something that's been around for years? Like four hundred years of slavery? How ridiculous to suggest that something shouldn't be changed because its been around for too long to change it. Nothing will ever get done that way. Noone is willing to recognize the fallibility of this "land of the free," a nation that goes and kills innocent children for oil and claims to be liberating people when people are dying of starvation and ignorance right in its own territory. And I don't know who said this, but don't talk to me about the horrible culture we live in when you got the crap be out of you by nuns. Nuns! They are supposed to be more connected with God than any other women in the country! Is that not a problem in itself? Why is everyone acting like this sexual culture is new? Janet Jackson exposed one of her breasts (not even the nipple). It is a breast! The eyes of the children we are trying to protect... some of them have breasts! And some of them let other ten-year-olds touch their breasts because it's such a bad-ass thing to do! People are always trying to protect their kids from the things they don't want to explain to them. It is a breast! It feeds babies everyday! Tell your child what a breast is and stop blushing! I can't believe with all that is going on in the world, people can be so upset about this; something as natural as the female anatomy should not cause this much uproar. How can you have sex, have a child, and not explain to that very child what sex is because it's too awkward? Or they don't need to know? Are you kidding? So, please, just step away from your PC's and go read a book or something. Stop making bogus judgments about people. If you don't like what television has to offer, turn it off. People in this country spend too much time watching that damned thing anyway. And CBS has a lot of nerve being upset when Drew Barrymore flashed David Letterman on national television! But that's ok, because she had her back turned. Give me a break, please. The media, the very tool by which people are brainwashed and socialized everyday, can tell me nothing about discression.
So much hate.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 3:33 PM
I've read through these posts and... you are all obsessed with who or what is better, or wrong. Yes, some things I'll admit are wrong through common sense. But after stating an opinion with so much passion, someone has to ruin it, can we not all just accept our differences? Is it that hard for all of you to do? I'm appalled by all the hate and resentment brought on by one incident. I'd like to let America know, that if you think we are failing as a nation, then it's all our own fault. I mean, gawd, I'm 16 and I'm more mature then most adults on this site... I hope America takes this all in.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 3:54 PM
You obviously don't have a single clue about what you're talking about! Sept. 11 happened not because of religion, but because mindless individuals who were brainwashed, and, were most likely crazy. The United states has never supported terrorism of any kind, nor will they ever. Sorry to hear that you were beaten in school. But, that was then, this is now. Live in 2004! Things are different! Speech is more free in this day and age! And let me ask this, since you seem to have such higher morals than the rest of the world, why is showing a breast for about 2 seconds considered to be so horrible, where looking at paintings or sculptures of completely naked men and women is considered art? It's the human body either way! Other countries have learned to embrace their bodies. We just live in a society where that is considered taboo.
RE: Re:JJ
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 4:24 PM
Hey, moron, she said she wasn't ashamed of her body, not anything. YOU ARE TAKING A SIMPLE BREAST WAY OUT OF PROPORTION! It's a breast, a boob, a tit, half a rack, the right jug, whatever you want to call it! You feed children with it! Women have them! Big deal! Get over it!
You really have no clue do you?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 6:25 PM
This is great! Here in the UK the best selling newspaper has a bare chested woman on page 3 EVERY F*****G DAY (which any kid can see). Oh my Lord we must be so degenerate! Our society must be collapsing through emotionally damaged children. In fact, us Brits must be so deranged by this that we pick up the nearest gun and shot the 1st person we come across. The murder rate here must be the highest in the world - no wait, hang on ......
I love the outraged comments - especially the "you gay ...." whatever ones. Do you people actually have a vote and the right to reproduce?! THATS the real outrage, that so many stupid people are polluting the gene pool. Oh, I know, I need a bath and a shave to have a valid opinion. hmmmm ok. done. now you can take me seriously....
(They make you take a test before you can have a car, but whats the requirement for a gun? a baby? a vote?)
Janet's Civil Rights
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 7:15 PM
The controversy surrounding the events in the NFL halftime show borderlines on the ridiculous. However, it does raise an important issue in women?s rights. For centuries in Western culture it has been acceptable for a male to show his bare chest. This double standard is an insult to women everywhere because it sexualizes their anatomy. Women?s breast, unlike men?s serves a biological purpose and yet there are those that take issue with women breast feeding in public. Janet Jackson bared one breast on national television, whether it was on purpose or by accident is irrelevant. What is relevant is that men have been allowed to dictate whether it is acceptable or not for women to show their breast, while holding that they have some sort of divine right to mow the front lawn shirtless with their pants hanging half way down their derrieres. If the FCC, CBS and the NFL continue this groundless persecution then all Americans should be made to carry this burden. We as citizens should no longer accept seeing males parade around on television or in public shirtless and if they are found doing so they should be penalized as their female counterparts are, to the fullest extent of the law.
Rikest1342@aol.com
Special Education Teacher and Licensed Vocational Nurse.
RE: Re:
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 6, 2004 10:22 PM
Hear...hear! What a strange society we have become! Violence is perfectly okay for kids, but a womens beautiful breast is not? Buy your kids a computer and fill it up with games of graphic violence, turn on the news and see and hear all the coruption, violence, and brutality your kids can stomach? Or 'shit-coms' and cartoons that portray men and women as stupid, ignorant, back stabing, baffoons? Go to a movie that glorfies lieing, breaking the Law, violence, drugs and sex? That's all perfectly okay? Turn on the radio or play a cd of kids music. LISTEN to the words. This is all okay and accepted for them? But a NATURAL part of the womens body is somehow wrong? Huh? I don't get it? Talk about "morality" and "Family Values"? Very strange "values" if you ask me? And since when do "kids" watch the Super Bowl? Getting you beer or something while you sit on your ass and cheer someone getting hurt? My boys cared less about the S.B. till they were teenagers. And then they had already seen all the sex acts possible and every part of a womens body on the internet. This hypocritical outrage by the so-called conservatives is why I fear the right wing as much as I fear the left wing! Seems like we have a lot of maturing as a race of people to do yet?!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 11:26 AM
Teacher #1, you got my vote and can teach my twin daughters anytime!
Teacher #2, you're opinion is #2! Shame on you for not trying to set a good example. Just because kids may see that stuff on TV, doesn't mean they should or do. I for one, won't let my kids watch the shows that you describe. Prime Time is for adults, not kids. (and yes, a 12 or 14 yr old is still a kid, mentally and emotionally, no matter how physically developed!).
Teacher #1 has a life. Teacher #2 needs to get another job and stay away from our kids!
Familycentrism
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 11:44 AM
I'm fascinated by the double standard surrounding "family entertainment" in the United States. The Superbowl halftime show was riddled with overtly sexual performances, and the lyrics of the song (as many have pointed out) were unquestionably sexual. Yet this all counts as legitimate family entertainment, and no US viewers would have complained... until JJ's breast was exposed.
From this, I must conclude that anything is valid family entertainment (no matter how lewd or violent it might be) until nudity is involved. That seems to me to be rather underestimating the intelligence of youth. I think even a 10-year-old can figure out that someone can still be sexual/provocative without being naked.
As an outsider (I'm from Canada), I look at US culture and think it is ridiculously familycentric. The idea that children must somehow be "protected" from adult ideas and images is a relatively new one, and the US has taken it to obsessive extremes. Maybe education, instead of censorship, is the best way to raise well-balanced children.
I've enjoyed seeing all the various issues that have come up in this discussion (religion, censorship, 9/11, racism). I think it's important to acknowledge that all these issues are connected.
RE: typical America
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 11:48 AM
Holland couldn't invade a grocery store! Hell, Rhode Island could kick your a**!
Besides, you seemed pretty glad for America when we freed your country in WWII. ...or have you forgotten what it's like to be occupied by a facist dictator?
That goes for the rest of you ungrateful Euro-trash that always have your hand out when you need something (like protection, freedom, MONEY!) but cuss Americans every chance you get.
Someone tell me, we have hurricanes, floods, and natural disasters in America: when was the last time you saw any aid from a foreign country here? Maybe we should close our boarders to all, stop sending troops and $$ to your aid and defense, and keep out tax dollars here where they belong. But, you see, that's not our way. We are by majority, Judeo-Christian. And as such, our values teach us to help others that are in need. For that, we get planes flown into our buildings and foreigners from countries we liberated talking trash about us.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 3:36 PM
Though, The bible did not say that God created the Dinosaurs. In Genesis, God took 7 "days" to finish all creation. These 7 "days" does not literally mean Days or 24 hours. The Hebrew term used in Genesis, for day, have no definate time structure. The Herbrew term for "day" could of meant, a long period of time, or even and Era. So if you put it in to thought, God did create the Dinosuars, But didnt Write it literally down as "Dinosaurs" So Please use your fossilized brain and think for once, before it becomes extinct!
RE: Some people still care about raising kids
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 4:29 PM
Perhaps children at the age of 5 and 7 shouldn't be watching the superbowl at all, ever think of that? No, probably not. Apparently you don't have any problem with letting those same children watch a bunch of men beat on each other for money! Which you whole heartedly support, after all you said you watch with them all season long! Maybe, as a concerned parent, you should try to teach your children that the world is not now and never will be perfect. So take some responsibility and put any blame that exists on YOUR shoulders, for allowing them to watch it in the first place. As far as when they NEED to see it, just when is that? 16? 18? 21? After someone gets pregnant or a disease? Get real people, kids need to know about these things before they experience them. Why do you think there are so many teen pregnancies and people with aids? Because someone else decided that they weren't ready to know about it and they found out on their own. After that, it's just too late
Boobs, Tits, Breasts?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 4:41 PM
Janet Jackson. What difference does it make, she had a tassle on her nipple. They show more on a regular television show. As for the guy who mentioned the game itself and how rough is was, family sport, yeah right. For the religious right, get a life and look in the mirror. No family is a perfect family, or you wouldn't need to go to church, duh!! Get a life everyone, we will get over it.
JANET'S BOOBS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2004 5:44 PM
Listen everyone. This is another phase that this woman is going thru. She enjoys showing off her body, and unfortunately, she is enjoying it at her own and Justin's expense. Janet probably thought that noone would make such a big deal out of it, I mean why would they. When we have witnessed on tv, Madonna and Brittany kissing, Lil Kim and Toni Braxton and their outrageous outfits. And, let's not even mention J.Lo, so why would people freak because Janet flashes her tit during the Superbowl halftime. We've seen and heard worse then this.
Maybe after this event, America and its artists will get back to exemplifying two words "Self Respect." Without it, we are in for a lot worse than this.
This issue is old and dead. Let's move on.
listen
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2004 6:12 AM
all she did was show her tit, you can see that anytime on movie stations, and for kids, who gives a crap, girls know what they look like and little boys like it, so what's the problem?
I think people are overreacting, and people who are filing lawsuits are freaking crazy. They just wanted an excuse to get a quick buck(welfare trailer trash and ghetto trash), there was no damage done by this, if it were up to me, I'd let em do that again just to show those christian crap heads a that it wasn't a problem.
no one got hurt, so why the lawsuit? tell me, besides trash wanting a quick buck.
And even a real religous person would just shrugg it off and go on with the game, it is insecure people who want to act like there offended so they dont look like they are not being christian enough.
RE:GROW UP!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 9, 2004 2:48 PM
Did your wife blindfold your children every time she breastfed them, as not to offend them, God I hope so? Hope you scored some points with the wife watching you type the thing about her tits being better, because anyone with three kids and no plastic surgery budget would tell you that you are full of shit. ?Oh Honey, you are so sweet, but you know that we don?t use words like ?breast? in front of the children?you might offend them.?
Give me a break?let me know when the book burning party is, you Nazi freak, I?ll bring my porn and teach the kids that it is ok to not be terrified by tits?and that, you know what?tits are really kind of cool?it?s sheltered kids like yours that end up pregnant by the age of 16 because parents like you never taught them anything useful about?ewwww?gasp? ?GIRLS?.
Fucking grow up?your kids are?
Love SNC-
Hey catholic
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 9, 2004 4:25 PM
People like you give Catholics a bad name. I was raised Catholic as well, went to Catholic school and the whole bit (our nuns didn?t beat the hell out of us incidentally, confront your feelings about that particular priest from your past for god sake). People like you are why I am just vaguely Christian now. It is the puritanical arrogance of the devout Christian masses that buy the whole ?the bible knows everything? horseshit.
The Holy Bible is nothing more than the worlds most successful and best selling novel of all time. It is a collection of stories, most fabricated, some blatantly untrue, written to get a primitive, uneducated populace to play nicely with each other. Like the whole Santa thing, (which I am assuming you still believe that a big fat guy in a red suit gives a shit if you are nice or not) it is a bogus story with real roots manipulated to keep kids in line.
As for the whole Jesus thing, he was a cool guy with a great message, (which is remarkably similar to every other major religious figure in history) ?be nice to others, don?t be selfish, believe in something bigger than yourself, and have some integrity?there you go?there is the Cliff?s Notes for the New Testament.
Most intelligent people these days outgrow Christianity and seem to tend to come back to it later in life once they have defined their own spirituality and can appreciate the ritual and community that organized religion provides.
Others, like you, have their spirituality not so much retarded, but lashed to a tree and left for dead by the mindless repetition that is most organized religion. You are a drone, another blindly tithing bottomless pit.
You don?t seem like the ?Opiate of the Masses? is working too well for you. Most people that work as hard as you to damn those around you to hell for their beliefs are usually terrified that their own beliefs might be wrong. Don't forget, Hitler was a devout catholic.
Do yourself a favor?learn why Buddhism, Hinduism, hell Judaism (seeing how you worship a Jewish carpenter, that one seems especially appropriate), Taoism etc. are all such beautiful traditions, before you claim yours is the only way to ?salvation?.
PLEASE GROW UP!
Love SNC-
RE: still Janet
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 10, 2004 10:14 AM
Frankly if some would like to see more, fantasize about or do erotic things to Janets tts... well nobody would really care much! ....as long as this is done in private and not shared to those who would like no part of it.
The whole point of this "America is Upset Syndrome" is that in a very public event the responses to a particular action, attire or language will be as numerous as the grains of sand. And everyone has the right to his own opinion or reaction. What may offend one will not the other. However, the former does not have the right to impose his value on the latter and vice-versa.
That is why in general public events the middle ground is taken....avoiding the extremes which more often creates the controversial reactions from varied sectors. This way it is assumed that both extremes of the spectrum will generally accept the middle ground. What happened in the Super Bowl was definely not middle ground American behaviour... and many felt it was intentional rather than accidental.
To resort to labeling the extremes of the spectrum as fools, prudes, maniacs, catholics etc... reflects the lack of tolerance for the rights of others and the emptiness of one's arguments.
Of course, public events which are focused for a particular segment like a rock concert by a heavy metal rock band or the Mardi Gras or the Carnival in Rio... do not fall into the category. The very nature of these events require acceptance of some nudity,"profanity" and drunkeness. These are not events for puritans or prudes. However to label these as acceptable to the general public as these are middle ground behaviour will be taxing too much the trait of tolerance to the point of permissiveness.
BY;;;; the Asian
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 10, 2004 7:36 PM
First of all, I hate to be the one to tell you this. But the terrorists were not brainwashed. they ARE extreamists. Can I say you're brainwashed because you're preaching so heavily about God and how we live in a shameful world? No I think you'd be offended. But by you're own definitions you to should be considered "brain washed". The sad part about any war, is this, both sides think they are correct. Don't preach about what you yourself have had no experience in. Ask yourself how desperate a person must be to agree to strap explosives to their bodies and blow themselves up. That tells me two things, one; they believe in what THEY are fighting for...and two; they must feel pretty cornered. Humans like any other animal will come out fighting with claws bared if it feels trapped. I'm not justifying what happened on September 11th, but i do make an attempt to walk in their shoes even for just a moment. My boyfriend is an american soldier over in iraq, I'm a Canadian citizen. Secondly, as for Janets boob, get over it...it's a boob...a piece of flesh on a womans body. A peice of flesh that every woman has two of. It's a peice of flesh used for giving sustenence to babies and driving pleasure out of when having good sex. Get over it...it's a bloody boob...I mean really. It's not like you can't see naked boobies in school text books. And don't give me bs about how there isn't I could pull out any standardized text book and show you illustrations of roman artwork where ~Gasp~ They show nudity..they SCULTPED NUDITY OMG WE'RE GONNA BURN IN HELL! No we're not, if you're a god believing christian, and there's nothing wrong with that, remember this..god made man in HIS image...God made man because he thought man was beautiful. So for christians to condemn a boob is to say that gods work is not beautiful. The body is a work of art. Whether it was intentional or unintentional..it's just a boob...The only people making it out to be anything other then a boob...a peice of flesh is the world.
Apple & Bare Breast
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 1:01 AM
Actually it was an apple, but it was Newton, not Eve, who sat under it, per De Vinci Code. The reason breast baring in public is offensive is because not all breasts are beautiful. Some are flacid and sagging like cow duds, and would shock the hell out of kids and adults alike. To prevent this from happening, we banned all breast baring, even if it means sacrificing free peeks at the beautiful ones.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 6:30 AM
Actually in the book of Job. It does descrbe an animal that sounds very similar to that of a brontosaurus. It also describes this same gigantic animal throughout the bible and many believe that
it is, in fact, descrbing a dinosaur. Note: There are many animals in the un-
talked about in the bible. That doesn't mean that they do not exsist.
I for one believe that the dinosaurs did walk with man. And I have many other validations for my theory other than the bible and maybe one day the world can hear of my research. I have been studying dinosaurs almost my whole life. I hope to prove the masses wrong someday. I believe I am close. If you ever want to know more on this please reply.
P.S.
As far as Janet is concerned, She shouldn't have showed her boob for the simple fact that it is pissing mom's off. I don't really much care and I'm sure it has not polluted children's mind's anymore than modern day television or our crappy school system's. I went to a private school until I was in fifth grade when I transferred to a public school and there were plenty of teachers, kindergardner's,
and students all alike,
cussing and talking about sex. I was shocked but I guess that is just a reality check that all mother's need to realize as I had to at one time.
Never-the-less, Janet should not have done it for the simple fact that it did offend some people and it got the network, Justin, and the
NFL in hot water. It just isn't very nice to offend people or get other industries in trouble for your screw ups. I love Janet and I love GOD the Father, God the Son, And God the holy Spirit,
But I do not Love to offend people. I personally was not offended but some people were
I am a parent! Listen
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 9:01 AM
i have 2 girls and a boy and they both saw what happened and we are all a church going family, but all we did was laugh and smile, it was not a big deal to us, my 4yo girl new what it was, so did my 13yo girl, my 8yo boy new what it was, he even told me later he liked it, but I dont think it hurt anyone, because you can turn to other channels where people are having sex, but they only go wild when janet has her breast with jewelty on it hanging out of her shirt. sounds fishy, I'll tell you this, I dont mind my kids seeing what happened at the super bowl, but i do mind the other stations that have people having sex all over the place.
so dont be a bunch of over reacting, imature babies and just let it be, everyone knows what a breast looks like.
stop wasting your time
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 3:15 PM
I can't understand why ppl waste their time over this issue. Obviously americans are way too immature to handle such a situation. There are some ppl who seriously need to grow up. Obviously this stunt was pulled for attention, and JJ and folks wanted to see how dumb ppl like all of you would react. Guess what? Their plan worked. They are all sitting there laughing there asses off at all of you dumb-asses. Yes, it was a booby, now can we all be adults about this? By the way..all you parents need to know how to parent your kids properly, so situations like this don't turn into a big deal. Now for the last time, drop the issue, and grow up America.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 3:34 PM
Wow, if you think that the government has never supported terrorism against other nations, you are one naieve brainwashed SOB (ie. the Taliban, East Timor, etc.). Also, no one in this entire group can string together a sentence to save their lives, let alone spell properly. And critical thinking seems to have become obsolete, especially in the self-analysis department. Oh yeah, also, it's just a boob people, and we all spent the first 6 months of out lives with our mouths clamped around one, or don't you remember. Besides, pop music is lame anyways, guys, so let them strip, it's the only interesting thing they've got going for them.
IiiiTTTTSSSS NNNNNOOOOOOOTTTTT PPOORRNN
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 4:06 PM
PPPPPPLLLLLLEEEEaaASSSEEE RRRRREEEEAAAADDDD
my kids have seen breasts, and i think everyone has seen breasts, yes even my 4 year old twins.
to them they are protruding things off a body, and to most underage kids, they look like protruding male breasts. and to the other kids, they are something they have seen alot before, so why are all you people calling it porn? Porn is people having sexual intercourse with them selves or others....
a woman showing a breast is just been made out by christians to be a terrible thing, its not, its a part of a body, just like and arm or a hand, those aren't considered a porn!
now i am a believer in god to, but i believe people's bodies are just living things, i mean you see most animals naked, and people dont mind, but humans are just animals to.
a female's breast is a breast, everyone has em, its just womens protrudes, why is that different enough to cause histaria, im not worried about the kids seeing breasts, but im worried about all the killing and death shown on tv these days, that is what is causing the downfall of society, not a breast!!!!!!!!!
Just think About It!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 6:07 PM
Whatever happened to common decency in this country? What is this country coming to?
Not long ago, sexuality was considered something that we kept behind our bedroom doors, not something that we flash in public. We also thought that bloody violence was morally wrong and should not be depicted on television. What has happened to us?
For those who went nuts over the Super Bowl half-time show, you should realize that what others have been arguing is true, that this was not an isolated incident. You look at TV these days and what you see is even worse. Look at the dating shows, the sitcoms, the wrestling shows? pretty much EVERYTHING save some. The majority of these shows are tainted with negative influences. The worst thing about it is that much of it we don?t seem to see, because we have become accustomed to it all. Take Friends for example. I am very sick about the entire casual attitude towards sex, that they all sleep around as if it was O.K. You see my point? If you don?t, then watch ?Saturday Night Live? or ?Blind Date? or ?Boston Public? or ?The O.C.? or ?Big Brother? or any of the sitcoms and see what they broadcast. The Super Bowl half-time show was merely a culmination of this open attitude towards sex that we have been building all these years. And it sickens me, despite the fact that I am only 18.
What kind of values are we teaching to our kids these days? That it?s O.K. to sleep around? To wear provocative clothing? To swear? To commit violence? I look around at elementary school girls these days and see them dressing like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. I see the boys wearing ?gangster? clothing, swearing everywhere like the rappers they listen to.
You say that they should realize what the world really is? But they?re young kids, for God?s sake! When I see them, I?d like to cry because of what the entertainment industry has molded them into.
Take some responsibility for your actions.
We live in a country of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We have so much more freedom than every other country in the world. If you don?t believe it, then I ask you, how many countries legally allow their citizens to burn its flag? What we do with all this freedom is up to us. Either we be a beacon of light to the rest of the world, or what our Founding Fathers have created is all for naught. We fall down into depravity like the rest of the world. Look at the Middle East. It?s ruled by oppressive, corrupt, immoral dictators. The people are illiterate, and cannot even interpret their own religion for themselves, but are forced into dependence upon their religious leaders who are kooks, and in cahoots with the oppressive regime. My mother has a friend who came from Iran. Her daughter made a friend in school, but the friend did not know that she was a Baha?i, not a Muslim. When the friend found out, she took a knife to school. She asked her what she thought of Mohammed, and fortunately, Baha?is believe that all prophets are holy, and was spared her life. Scary is an understatement.
I am sure there are millions of similar stories. And the problem is that the people are so forced into this brainwashing. It?s not the religion, it?s the people who dictate it. If the people were able to read the Qu?ran, they would realize that those ?leaders? are liars. This is why America is so intent in bringing these regimes to an end. It?s because it is the right thing to do.
But that comes back to the question of our own culture. If we are to live up to bringing liberty to people in the world, we must first live up to a higher ideal. If we are to be corrupt, wretched, sinful, what hope is there to humanity? Certainly not the Middle East, and I don?t have to tell you that. And it all starts here, at the Super Bowl half-time show, and our future generations. Take responsibility for your life, for your children?s. If I were you, I?d toss the TV in the trash, because that is what it broadcasts, and so that is where it belongs. But I am not you. You make your own decisions. You can either let entertainment control you, or you control entertainment. It?s Fahrenheit 451.
Do something
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 11, 2004 6:09 PM
Whatever happened to common decency in this country? What is this country coming to?
Not long ago, sexuality was considered something that we kept behind our bedroom doors, not something that we flash in public. We also thought that bloody violence was morally wrong and should not be depicted on television. What has happened to us?
For those who went nuts over the Super Bowl half-time show, you should realize that what others have been arguing is true, that this was not an isolated incident. You look at TV these days and what you see is even worse. Look at the dating shows, the sitcoms, the wrestling shows? pretty much EVERYTHING save some. The majority of these shows are tainted with negative influences. The worst thing about it is that much of it we don?t seem to see, because we have become accustomed to it all. Take Friends for example. I am very sick about the entire casual attitude towards sex, that they all sleep around as if it was O.K. You see my point? If you don?t, then watch ?Saturday Night Live? or ?Blind Date? or ?Boston Public? or ?The O.C.? or ?Big Brother? or any of the sitcoms and see what they broadcast. The Super Bowl half-time show was merely a culmination of this open attitude towards sex that we have been building all these years. And it sickens me, despite the fact that I am only 18.
What kind of values are we teaching to our kids these days? That it?s O.K. to sleep around? To wear provocative clothing? To swear? To commit violence? I look around at elementary school girls these days and see them dressing like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. I see the boys wearing ?gangster? clothing, swearing everywhere like the rappers they listen to.
You say that they should realize what the world really is? But they?re young kids, for God?s sake! When I see them, I?d like to cry because of what the entertainment industry has molded them into.
Take some responsibility for your actions.
We live in a country of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We have so much more freedom than every other country in the world. If you don?t believe it, then I ask you, how many countries legally allow their citizens to burn its flag? What we do with all this freedom is up to us. Either we be a beacon of light to the rest of the world, or what our Founding Fathers have created is all for naught. We fall down into depravity like the rest of the world. Look at the Middle East. It?s ruled by oppressive, corrupt, immoral dictators. The people are illiterate, and cannot even interpret their own religion for themselves, but are forced into dependence upon their religious leaders who are kooks, and in cahoots with the oppressive regime. My mother has a friend who came from Iran. Her daughter made a friend in school, but the friend did not know that she was a Baha?i, not a Muslim. When the friend found out, she took a knife to school. She asked her what she thought of Mohammed, and fortunately, Baha?is believe that all prophets are holy, and was spared her life. Scary is an understatement.
I am sure there are millions of similar stories. And the problem is that the people are so forced into this brainwashing. It?s not the religion, it?s the people who dictate it. If the people were able to read the Qu?ran, they would realize that those ?leaders? are liars. This is why America is so intent in bringing these regimes to an end. It?s because it is the right thing to do.
But that comes back to the question of our own culture. If we are to live up to bringing liberty to people in the world, we must first live up to a higher ideal. If we are to be corrupt, wretched, sinful, what hope is there to humanity? Certainly not the Middle East, and I don?t have to tell you that. And it all starts here, at the Super Bowl half-time show, and our future generations. Take responsibility for your life, for your children?s. If I were you, I?d toss the TV in the trash, because that is what it broadcasts, and so that is where it belongs. But I am not you. You make your own decisions. You can either let entertainment control you, or you control entertainment. It?s Fahrenheit 451.
this shouldn't be a big deal
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2004 2:21 PM
First of all, kids need to be taught how to handle the real world these days. Parents need to introduce their kids to things like this at young ages, so that they aren't a big deal when a situation like such arises. If things like pornography are kept secret from kids, the kids will think it's a huge deal when they see a booby, or whatever. It is absolutely ridiculous. It's not like she was showing her vagina or putting on a strip show. It was a funny joke, if you ask me, and if ANYBODY was offended by that, than you need to seek some professional help, and learn how to deal with the real world these days. I MEAN COMMON PPL...WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOUR PROBLEMS??!...GAIN SOME MATURITY AND MOVE ON!!..as ppl have mentioned before, there is pornography all over tv these days, and subliminal messages are being sent out, and not a word is said. JJ pops one boob, and look what happens? It is because who she is and the manor in which it was presented. AMERICA NEEDS THINGS LIKE THIS TO GIVE THEM A GOOD KICK IN THE ASS TO WAKE UP AND SEE REALITY! LETS MOVE ON
JJ's Boob
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2004 4:49 PM
I live in the UK..and reading all this is funny. All the chruchies have come here....what just to post? I think not, you all came here to look at JJ's boob.As many have said, it was a boob and not even a complete one at that, the nipple was covered, and you go on and on about it, talking about christ and the damage it has done to our kids and the morals of family, yeah right! So kids have not seen worse on TV or even on the news, what about school? A 3-4 year old would not have taken any notice of it and a 6-10 year old would have giggled about it a 11-13 year old might have said something about it and a 14-20 year old would have said my girlfriend has better.
Would like to say one thing about wars....90% of wars are about religion, so don't come that god piece love thing with me...look at your history and tell me how many people have been killed in the name of god...any god??
I'll give you a clue...it has at least 9 numbers in it.
Long live the page 3 girl..naked boobs in a national newspaper from Monday to Saturday!!!
RE: get over it
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2004 10:28 PM
I wathched the Superbowl. I saw the boob. Ever since thats all I've heard about. PR stunt this, morality issue that. Blah, blah, blah. Was it staged? Wasit an accident? WHO CARES!!! It was a one second tit shot. What really pisses me off is that in all of this is that FOOTBALL BECAME AN AFTERTHOUGHT AT THE FREAKIN' SUPERBOWL!!! All the hard work of the players, the coaches, and the NFL took a back seat to an exposed breast at the single most important football game of the year!!! I'm a die-hard NFL fan, and I'm offended by all Superbowl half time shows. Not because of a bare boob, but because I have to sit through 30 minutes of crappy music before the second half kickoff!!! With everyone talking about "The Boob", everyone has missed the whole point of it being on TV in the first place...THE SUPERBOWL!!! By the way, the New England Patriots won.
Boobs & Gods
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2004 12:35 AM
Who's this person coming to a site with people chatting about Janet Jackson's boobs quoting all this religeous bullshit? Let's see, you must be here to see Janets tits? Or are you here to try to "school" folks on your religeous beliefs? Amen to the person stating so many wars are due to religeous differences. How true & stupid! And nuns beating kids, hello McFly! What parent would allow that-think about it, they must have serious mental issues! So you quote the Bible, well it's just a book of people's opinions. Try having a mind of your own.
And the comments about spelling on this site... Get a life, it's a sounding board. People abreviate & write however they want here, it's not an English exam for God's sake.
Personally I was cooking for my family when Janet did her show, I missed it. So I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I won't be back here...I spend my free time mostly outdoors having fun in healthy ways. It's been fun to see the comments here & also that some folks have some common sense, unlike the one who's spending far too much time on the Net quoting religeous opinions to others who honestly don't care to hear it. Try going for a walk, drinking water or something that's REALLY healthy for your body & mind.
What I Can't Figure Out Is...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2004 5:32 AM
...how, exactly, Justin Timberlake has managed to become so well connected, and so "well-liked" by so many of his fellow artists in the music industry (artists with such diverse musical styles)? If anyone watched the Grammy's on Sunday, did it seem like Justin was everywhere? He won for "Best Male Pop Singer", he performed alone, I think he sang with some piano playing great (can't remember who), he played piano and sang with master trumpeter Arturo Sandoval, and he even sang back-up with the Black Eyed Peas. The boy must be extremely talented, (guess I missed the N-Sync train), but why does it seem that so many different people, rappers, R&B;, rock/pop, & jazz artists, just can't wait to partner up with an ex "Boy Band" lead singer? And, if that isn't enough, the guy almost started crying when he got Punk'd by Ashton Kutcher!
Oh, yea! This is about Janet Jackson!
Well, there's one good thing that I got out of this whole Superbowl "World Crisis", and that is, that until then, I was convinced that Janet and Michael were really the same person! Think about it. Have you ever seen the two of them together at any event?
And, I do have one last
Question for ya'all: What's worse - hiring Michael Irvin as one of the 4 on-air, play-by-play sportcasters
for the Superbowl, or Janet's ten second
long "National Geographic Cover" momement?
ANSWER: Who cares?!!
So What?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2004 6:12 AM
Janett showed a breast for a few seconds, I can simply not imagine how this should realy hurt someone. Perhaps you don't like it, well there is a lot more I don't like, and in the end a female breast is something completely natural.
On the other side we don't care about violence in the news.
For some people it might be tasteless, I have seen nicer breasts, but the jewellery was nice, anyway this does not matter.
We have used a lot of media bandwidth even here in Europe for this incident, and we ignore other much more important problems which will have a greatly bigger impact on the lives of our children. I think here of human cloning, global warming, but also surveillance by the governments (read Orwell 1984 once again!), crime and war.
It was amusing, but no lets get serious again!
RE: F*** all of you s*** hole suckers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2004 10:14 AM
"get a life"
hum, sounds like you are jealous of my superiority as a living carbon based life form, please don't tell me to get a life, I have a life, I cannot get one.
Do not ever correct me again, ass licker.
So why don't you post your opinion of the matter, what you think she is evil for this, I think not, nut brain.
And if you think i'm stupid for using colorful metaphores and sadistic comments towards stupid people, well you are very wrong. I use them, because I feel , people only listen if you are an asshole about it.
So before you start shittin around with me, learn to shut the fuck up.
Also remember, the comments were only casted towards people who thaught this was a bad thing.
Good luck in
life, I will
not be posting
here anymore.
Your Friend,
Alexander Lawson
RE: F*** all of you s*** hole suckers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2004 7:23 PM
hahahahaha
omg, u are one big nerd!
im just here waiting 4 my girl 2 pick me up to go and watch a movie!
im just here to piss u off!
get a life. as in, get friends,a gf and a job!
god,u sound like a geek!
im defending everyone here cuz dis guys gonna blow up soon. (not literally!)
so when i say get a life, i mean GET A LIFE! instead of typing all day!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2004 10:25 PM
I have an eight year old son, nine year old daughter. All watching the game. When the flash came up, I was not sure myself and had a Tvo rewind moment. Asked them to leave the room. I found out it was true she did flash the camera. I call to let them know they could return. And they stayed in their rooms. I continued through the end of the game. And went to check on them. I found they were both online with better video's and photo's than were showed on t.v. I want to know how they learned this. Both said for school. Everytime they tell us in school not to do it. Everyone would do it at home to find out why they are telling us not to do it. So if you don't think your kids are, think again. P.S. Both "A" students. Sex and nudiy have not worped their minds. Maybe that will happen in they teen years. But now I know and hopefully I can keep their mind in the books, as they get to they teen years. Good luck with your kids, I believe mine are not so fragile now. I also believe this has strengthened my family because I found out that they are well aware of sex nudity. And they way they sat down and talked to me about this, I trust them more and I talk more.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2004 11:02 PM
I have an eight year old son, and a nine year old daughter, all watching the game. When the flash came up, I was not sure myself and had a Tvo rewind moment. Asked them to leave the room. I found out it was true. She did flash the camera. I call to let them, to let them know they could return. But they stayed in their rooms. I continued through the end of the game. I went to check on them. I found they were both in they rooms online with better videos and photos than were shown on t.v. I want to know how they learned this. Both said for school. Every time they tell us in school not to do it. Everyone would do it at home to find out why they are telling us not to do it. So if you don't think your kids are, think again. P.S. Both "A" students. Sex and nudity have not warped their minds. Perhaps that will happen in they teen years. But now I know now, and hopefully I can keep their mind in the books, as they get to they teen years. Good luck with your kids, I believe mine are not so fragile now. I also believe this has strengthened my family because I found out that they are well aware of sex and nudity. And the way they sat down and talked to me about this, I trust them more now, and I talk more.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 19, 2004 7:26 PM
Yeah, sure, I read the posts, but if "JJ was not such a bad thing" and those who oppose are "ignorant morons" then why the uproar? (moron!). One thing's certain, whomever your high School teacher was, they must have forgotten to teach you the difference between ANATOMY and decency. Your likeness, the human anal sphincter, is a part of the anatomy shared by all: does that mean we show it in public or on public TV? (Actually, you show it on internet chat forums...but that's you...) How about genitals? Everybody's got 'em, why not show 'em? That's your argument! You see, it's about the dumbing down of morality; the air of permissiveness that seems to permeate everything in the media. We're all made from the very natural act of procreation. It's a beautiful thing, and a miracle in itself, but do you want that on public TV? That's the point. It's not just a "boob shot" (you boob!) it's the attitude that says we should accept it that is wrong. It's an awfully slippery slope. What's next, a penis shot from Kid Rock?
For those of us who found it offensive, we're allowed to be offended and voice our opinion as such, just as so many in society are offended by Religion, comments, etc. When you defend something that you had nothing to do with so fervently, you not only condone, but you remind us that the truth hurts (you) and that misery loves company: you're morality has gone to Hell, so you voice your support for others when theirs has too! (Kind of like not wanting to drink alone..) So go to work tomorrow with your breast out if you think it's so great, and see how long you keep your job, unless you're a stripper...or a hooker...or you work for one...
RE: typical America
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 19, 2004 7:44 PM
Orphans? Which ones: the orphans from 9/11 or from the soldiers that died on foreign soil protecting someone elses rights and freedoms?
If we have so many "orphans" here, then why do so many Americans spend 10's of thousands of $$ to apopt orphans from Russia, China, Czechoslovakia, etc.? Their orphans are treated so poorly that they cannot walk at 18 months and have never seen a toy (I have had three close friend apopt orphans from each of those countries, so I know this to be fact.)
You just better be careful, Euro-trash, because the next time you need aid, protection, money, or political assylum, the good ol' US of A might just reward your kind words with a hearty one-fingered salute! As for us, the rest of the world has proven time and again that they don't have the resources, nor the balls, to help the US when we need it, so why even bother with you.
RE: typical America
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 19, 2004 7:54 PM
Yeah! And when was the last time you saw people die from a riot at a football game? Happens all the time at soccer games in those "oh-so civilized because we allow frontal nudity" Euro-trash countries! Soccer's not a bad sport, if you're a skinny, short little pecker whose so afraid of being hit that you spend the entire game running away from people. That's why my daughters play it, and not football. (Actually, they're neither skinny, short, nor little peckers, but I don't want them to get injured, so they play...soccer! my son plays football.)
RE: Re:JJ
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 21, 2004 9:45 AM
Hey "sad", not only do my kids read, they are in the gifted program, have won the citizenship award many times, and are on the top of the advanced reader list, averaging over 1000 minutes each per month. Before you go spewing trash, and cuss words, get the facts.
P.S. If football was "just for rednecks" then every major university (Ivy League included) wouldn't have a football team! (you know, what's really sad is that when someone expresses their opinion, and it differs from yours, you have to resort to name calling and stereotypes. That's a sure sign of diminished mental capacity,... and having lost the argument.
RE: offended?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 21, 2004 11:56 AM
to be frank, I was not offended by this, or britney's kiss or just about anything that adds to the conglomeration of whatever it is that refines, or defines the image of a public image, regardless of who it belongs to. being a canadian resident, and visiting many of canada's beaches (where toplessness is legal), we see breasts often. it's not a big deal. femininity is a beautiful thing, but should not be exploited to such an extent. desensitization has taken it's place, replacing leagues of tradition with what seems to be a new thing... well, it's not, and people are going to have to get over it.
AMERICANS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 8:42 PM
I read all these and then they tell me "dont make fun of them, its not their fault, they have room temperature IQ". You started from a boob, then went over to religion, then to 11/Dec, then about values, then even teachers(my ass) jumped in the discussion. You dont even know why exhbition of boobs, genitals, etc are considered wrong and immoral blah blah. Yes your cable TV has boobs and dicks floating in your screen but then... what the fuck? Why cant we find the reason that out society is so fucked up? A lot of controversies in your arguments and little enlightment. You wanna find out y you have the highest crime rate? You wanna find out y you have so many perverts? Y you make wars all the time, and your President convinces you that you "fight for freedom"(by dropping bombs and killin innocents)? Its so fucking SIMPLE!!! Leave religions aside, if you make any research anyway, u ll find that all of them are the same shit. What might enlighten you is a)Read some (un)biased American history b) Watch "Bowling for Columbine" by Michael Moore a true American(a patriot as you, americans, like this word). Then come back, since u ll have done your homework and discuss again.
P.S. I m not a muslim just christian(orthodox), and I am not proud for anything I did not choose to be.
P.S.1 Have nothin against americans per se, only their moronic govmt.
P.S.2 Watch "Bowling for columbine" and see why the rest of the world questions the IQ of American people.
P.S.3 Flame me but prepare for not gettin a responce
my english suck!
good lord
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2004 2:48 PM
I managed to get through only a small part of this absurdly long "discussion" and I can only say that each and everyone of you would benefit from getting a life. I mean, come on, listen to yourselves. The idiots, the racists, the incompetent, the religious fanatics....what is going on here? Close your browser, pull your computer's plug, and leave the house. Please, for the good of society. If you choose not to do so, then I only hope that natural selection takes care of you and your offspring.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2004 4:36 AM
now that's just freakin' stupid. "I think you must be gay or lesbian if you think janet is not attractive" I'll start by saying yes, I think Janet is freakin hot, and I am certainly not complaining about seeing her breast on TV (except that is was for so short a time) but here's why your statement is stupid. First, not everybody has the same opinions about who is attractive and who isn't. I think Drew Barrymore is one of the most beautiful women there is, but alot of people disagree with me, but I don't think they're gay for it. Second, "must be gay or LESBIAN"???? Do you even know what that word means, it means, in shortened terms, chicks who dig chicks, last I checked, Janet was a chick, so, how would a chick not digging Janet make them a lesbian, if anything, a chick digging Janet would make that so.
Finish Junior High before you make any more posts... please
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 16, 2004 8:09 PM
hey, im here 2 piss the guy callin the other guy gaylord off
Scribe take it serious, various artist delirious, suffering from a lack of hearing us. Got my rhythm sussed for those who don't give a fuck, I do, and my whole crew is out to get you, and wreck you, disrespect you, disconnect you, left in seperate components in a state to complex to, ever step to what I consider intellectual, fuck you, wack rappers always sounding sexual. I rock, acapella, beat box, instrumental, when in your mental, I invade like oriental, move with ninja steps, online like internet, the phunkrepublic, hiphop, I'm loving it.
i rapped from 2001, my story's just begun, uh, You never hung in the streets where I'm from, We get ill with the lyrical, rela- individual, Every syllable, every metaphorical visual.
Scribe original next level shit for you to listen to, lyricism is vision, what I'm spitting is peripheral. Not the stereotypical type of individual, 8 bars, 8 flows, suppose I had tentacles. Rip the mic like I'm meant to do, come off like Imperial Mint fresh, my aerial view keeping me ahead of you, instead of you they're picking the Scribe, live, incredible, unforgettably phat, yo suckers looking edible.
You ain't got the feel, your shit just don't appeal, to the underground, had to be feeling when it's real, so [why's if he Scribe survives???], check it, are we live? Put me on your tape, I'll take a minute just devour. Off my mic, I like to ignite, philosophy, you're dead like old battery, naturally, I disagree with the purpose of your whole anatomy, had to be, want to battle me, come in packs of three, you can witness first hand my style, stabbing you rapidly. Reactively we, break MCs from Anthony to Zachary, and if you're not backing me, you're lacking me, constantly distracting me, trying to cause anarchy in my faculty, got beef? I eat it like pork, snap it like crackling. Picture like curves, you won't even know whats be happening, rhyme reflect reality, some MCs still imagining, so don't blame me why your style never changed, I stayed dope, lyically killing the cells in your brain.
My 2 Cents on this issue...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 1, 2004 1:14 AM
Let me put my two cents in...
I have come to the conclusion that I am very offended at what actually HAPPENED, not what people saw. Justin Timberlake is a horny, selfish, insensitive scum of a man. First off, he breaks open Britney Spears, and then brags about it on national TV (I first learned of this through a mutual contact, whose identity will remain strictly confidential). Now, he pulls this other media stunt, by going up on stage and deliberately snatching off a portion of Janet's garb in front of 135 million viewers. For a woman to be publicly chastised and humiliated in the manner that Janet has, is nothing short of having one's reputation RAPED! This is very clearly evident in the distraut look upon Janet's face for the brief few seconds of shock, before she frantically tried to cover herself back up with her hands.
Too late. In the brief ten or fifteen seconds after that had transpired, pics and images of her "magic boob" (as it was referred to in a subsequent issue of "Weekly World News") were already being dispersed and swapped about on the world-wide-web. Her only mistakes were not suing his butt for every single cent he owned, as well as allowing herself into being cohearsed into admitting she was at fault.
And as for the nipple ornamentation: Suppose my wife/girlfriend/fiance were to wear something of that nature underneath her blowse as she went to a job interview, WITH THE INTENT OF SURPRISING ME WITH IT when she got home later that afternoon and peeled off her clothes as she entered the door. If, during the interview, she dropped her pen or something onto the floor, and the Boss-Man got a good eye-full as she leaned over, then does that give him the right to assume that it is his?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
So niether, then does this little nipple ornament give the American Public & Media the right to assume that the scandal was staged, or that it's sole purpose was to provide a focal point for this "dashing" display of flesh (although a close-up Polaroid would make one hell of a conversational piece!). Basically, the truth of the matter is this one little private spot on her nicely-matured body that once belonged only to her is now up for grabs by anyone with an Internet connection. And although I am aware of the fact that she has posed nude before (aka people have already seen it - the one with the two hands grappling her from behind on the "Janet" album is one of my favs), that is a completely different issue entirely: Janet CHOSE to pose because she felt HAPPY & CONFIDENT with her body, however being stripped away as she was brings nothing but HUMILIATION & RIDICULE.
THIS IS WHAT OFFENDS ME: THAT THE MEDIA HAS MADE SUCH A HUGE ORDEAL OVER AN EVENT THAT WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF HER CONTROL. Sometimes it makes me sick the way celebs are exploited - they are human just like us, you know.
I am in no way acting as an attourney, nor am I going to debate this enormous plethera of arguments that has come to transpire as the result of this fairly insignificant issue - people could discuss the various ins & outs of philosophy until Hades freezes over and the Polar Caps melt. I am a non-conformist as well as a born-again believer in CHRIST, and so I do not consider my self bound either by the standards of society nor to the individual practices and customs of organized religion. I am a college student majoring in Art and Engineering, and unlike certain individuals who post on this site, I actually use what I learned in Freshman English.
Have a nice day; please feel free to comment as you see fit.