Digital Theatre [DTheatre.com]
 SPONSOR
Search for  

NAVIGATION
HOME/NEWS
BUY DVDS MOVIES
THE CHATBOARD
SUBMIT NEWS
HELP
COMPANY INFO
CONTACT US
LOGIN
Username:
Password:
Need an account?
Sign up Now!
Note: Logged in users do not have pop-ups and pop-unders.
More Options
User Utilities
Help

Quote of the day:

"we're all born mad, but some of us remain so" -- Samuel Beckett
COOL LINKS
find books, dvds and movies:



Topic: Film Mel Gibson's Jesus vs Jews & Catholics
By Loath on June 13, 2003 3:13 PM

Mel Gibson has vehemently refuted claims that his upcoming Christ film, The Passion, is anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic. The accusations were made by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops after they obtained an early draft of the script from an unknown source.

Jewish leaders in particular have raised concerns that the movie, titled "The Passion," might portray Jews as collectively guilty for Christ's crucifixion.

Their concerns were sparked by a New York Times Magazine article portraying Gibson as a traditionalist Catholic opposed to reforms of the Vatican II Council of the 1960s, which among other things rejected the belief that Jews were collectively responsible for the death of Jesus.

The film's producer, Steve McEveety, said that while critics have a right to their opinion, "no one has a right to publicly critique a film that has not even been completed, let alone base their critique on an outdated version of the script which has been illegally obtained."

Icon said it learned in late March that a draft of the script "was taken by an individual referred to as "our Deep Throat" and surreptitiously circulated without permission to members of the interfaith scholars group.

The bishops conference has disavowed any involvement in obtaining the script or in preparing a confidential report on its review by the scholars group.

The Conference of Catholic Bishops has since apologised for their reaction to an unfinished draft of the film and have declared that they will reserve judgment until the finished product is available. The film, which stars Jim Caviezel as Jesus and Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene wrapped in April and features purely Aramaic and Latin dialogue - without subtitles.

[ comment on this story | comments (99) ]
Reader Discussions:
 Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 14, 2003 2:11 AM

Just for kicks, here's a totally wacked out christian site that some of you might enjoy fuming at: http://www.kingidentity.com/

20
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on June 17, 2003 1:55 PM

I really shouldn't be encouraging this sh*t but here's another more modern and evil: http://www.thefamily.org.

40
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by greccogirl (greccogirl@hotmail.com) on August 22, 2003 6:16 AM

What is evil about this site?

60
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 22, 2003 10:17 PM

If you only knew them like I know them.

20
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 25, 2003 10:00 AM

Those people are scary.  Not because they believe what they do, but because they actually believe people will join this kind of thing.  I think I've heard the man's name before.  I think he was a Grand Wizard of the KKK.

40
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by greccogirl (greccogirl@hotmail.com) on August 22, 2003 6:17 AM

Yes, this site is scary and I assure it is NOT CHRISTIAN.  Christians do not belong to the KKK.  They might think they are but they are not.

20
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 29, 2003 4:08 PM

I am a christian from Los Angeles California, and I find this website to be COMPLETELY an inaccurate example of the christian faith.  I feel so sorry for the people who belong to this church, and will pray for their misguided minds.  I also will pray for the  people who go to this website seeking Christ! These people will be mislead with it's non-biblical doctrines, and ridiculous claims to righteouseness.  Unfortunately, there are allot of strange doctrines out there, and for some reason each one thinks that they are the chosen...the righteose. The hillarious thing is that God never proclaimed them to be! If people would just simply read the scripture, they would find truth :) "..the fruit of the spirit is love,joy,peace,patience,kindness, goodness, faithfullness, gentleness, and self control"
Galatians 5:22-23
That is straight out of the bible, and you know,it doesn't say "love only your white neighbor...or be gentle only with Europeans" What nonsense they preach!
I just want to let everyone out there know that ..yes, this website is "wacky", but please don't judge Christianity by such utter foolishness. If you are reading this and thinking that you may want to know more information about Scripture from a biblical perspective, I urge you to seek out the truth.  Here are some websites that may help: www.insight.org
     www.equip.org
     www.intouch.org
     www.harvest.org
     www.khouse.org
Jesus loves each and everyone of you !
Grace mercy and Peace,
A disciple of God

40
 You just couldn't resist, could you?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 31, 2003 9:34 PM

So where do you draw the line as to who is and is not Christian? I guess I'll have to ask you, since your God isn't piping up; maybe you'll give me a better answer.

Are people who discriminate according to skin color instead of religious preference not Christian?

How about people like Jack Chick, who annoy the masses with insensitive pamphlets?

How about people who feel the need to proseletize in public forums?

This is also straight from the Bible: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

Now shut the fuck up.

Thank you.

60
 RE: You just couldn't resist, could you?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2003 2:43 PM

They that call on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. We are all siners and anyone who recongnises this and acknoledges that Jesus is the Son of God and died on the cross for our sins and rose again then confess it. That is a "Christian" but more importantly it is being Born Again

60
 RE: You just couldn't resist, could you?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 20, 2003 8:53 AM

Are people who discriminate according to skin color instead of religious preference not Christian? I wouldn't go so far as to say they are not Christians just they have not studied God's word enough  or would not have fallen into error.

How about people like Jack Chick, who annoy the masses with insensitive pamphlets? Jack Chick? As far as pamplets being insensitive from what I understand there's a simple message in each one accept Christ or go to eternal damnation. You can read it if you want to or not.

How about people who feel they need to proseletize in public forums?  I don't believe I've ever heard of someone going out and speaking to people in a public place where they forced a tract or something similar on people.


This is also straight from the Bible: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
My question to you is "How are we 'judging' you?"
It is not "judgemental" to give out pamphelets or talk to people about what you believe. If that is so we had better stop all campaigning of the presidential nominees.

60
 RE: You just couldn't resist, could you?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 18, 2003 1:41 PM

People who tell other people to "shut the f---- up" shouldn't really be complaining about insensitivity.

20
 RE: Off the topic... but...   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2003 11:47 PM

Yeah, it's pretty bad.
One thing they recognize, though, is that most of the ten scattered tribes of Israel are in Northern/Western Europe and America.  A good web site for more info is http://www.asis.com/~stag/

Something else stupid is the whole descendant of Cain thing: only Seth's seed survived (Great Flood, Genesis 6).

Happy reviewing! $$

 Mad Messiah   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 17, 2003 7:35 AM

So, how does the Thunderdome fit into his theology? I really wanna know.

20
 RE: Mad Messiah   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 25, 2003 9:52 AM

Thunderdome (and all the Mad Max films) are post-apocalyptic films. As for the films tie-in to his theological views, I don't believe there are any.

Maybe you will ask how the Lethal Weapon movies are tied to his theological views too.

I didn't know that he is now thought of (presumably by you) of making wholly theological films? He is an actor (and director) who is pursuing a different role. This one happens to be written and directed by him and DOES promote his theological content.

Maybe you should ask the same question of Babs Streisand or Arnold Schwarzenegger about when their theological movies are coming out.

20
 RE: Mad Messiah   > reply 
Posted by Skullfire (skullfire@clarinmail.com) on June 17, 2003 7:43 PM

If he's really anti-semitic, jews should be the pigs and Tina Turner the Virg... wait, no. Forget it.

 Passion   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 18, 2003 8:32 PM

Its amazing how much emotion this subject triggers. The truth is neither Jew or Gentile is responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. Sure one condemned him and the other carried out the condemnation, but it was truly his passion to die for his creation and to redeem it from the hands of the enemy. If this is wack to you and delivers no proof of his diety, then what guilty man or woman would you die for?

20
 RE: Passion   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2003 3:47 PM

What's the big deal? It's just a fictional movie about fictional characters. If you don't want to see it, don't buy a ticket.

 I'm inspired   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 24, 2003 11:33 PM

Dear Mr. Gibson
I just like to say that what your doing is fantastic, Don't give up!
People in this world need to here about the meaning of life (Jesus Christ)
its  amazing when you try to put that message across how the dark forces in
this world(the devil) will try and shut you down, even the closes to us & I say this with out being cynical but with experience
I also have a passionate vision to put the Word of God throughout the world
on billboards Adverting medium ext..
www.aboutjesuswept.org
I believe your movie will save million of people from being eternity cut of
from God.
I will continually pray for you.
God bless
Adam Thompson

 Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 28, 2003 11:40 PM

I just wanted to say, that I love Mel's comic sense.  There's nothing more comical than christians to me.  Jews and Muslims are pretty funny too, but...

Seeing Jesus getting nailed to the cross, that'll be a real hoot.  When I go to see it, I'll fill the theatre with my own laughter.

ha ha Jeeeesus, ha ha Jeeesus!

20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 30, 2003 1:23 PM

Are you going to be saying "Go Satan!" while he is pouring on those hot coals while you are burning in hell?

40
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 5:47 AM

I understand where you non-Christians are coming from, and it sounds like we're just spouting alot of BS, but if you really are hungry for God, which, soon you'll find out is reflected in the way you walk, talk, and act-- sex, drugs, friends -- I pray you meet Him and accept Him for who He is!

Jesus is right there, whether you can feel it or not, and He loves you!

20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2003 11:42 PM

Careful, son.  You just might get thrashed since most of the people watching the movie will be Christians like me: the passionate ones who don't like mockers.

40
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2003 10:38 PM

Eventhough many christians believe that muslims promote hatred or hate jews for no reason, i'm happy to see that christians see the truth. Jesus (P.B.U.H)-peace be upon him was not the only MESSENGER god they conspired or actually killed. Honestly I do not want you to believe me, go search into the real history behind the jews and how they believe "they are gods chosen people and that all none jews are "animal" that should be governed by jews. By now you are probably telling yourself Muslims a terrorists and extreme ...etc GO ASK A RABBI and pretend to be a hardcore jew and then he will bring out the "Thamood" (their law book which is writen by them for them greed,money etc) and he will read for you word for word.

Tell me what you think? I'm I crazy or do I make sense

p.s
I'm not asking jews just christians


20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 6, 2003 9:12 AM

All believers were mockers once.  We came from the same place and had the same attitude.  Let him see the movie and mock.  But let God's spirit of truth be at work on him without us believers retaliating.  Remember what Simon Peter did in the Gatden of Gethsemane and how Jesus responded??

20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 7, 2003 3:01 PM

If only you knew what it is you're laughing at! What if the bible is right? What if Jesus the Christ is the one and only son of God? What if He died to make sure you could live with God?
That does mean you're laughing at the wrong things, either you're having a bad sence of humor! Think about it! What if it's all true, and you're throwing the best part of live and eternety away? are you still laughing then?

Erwin from the Netherlands

20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2003 2:25 PM

You sound just like the soliders when they took JESUS to the hill TO BE PUNSHED FOR YOU. JESUS STILL LOVES YOU!!!!! And I pray that when you go to MEET him he will be your SAVIOR not your JUDGE!!
YOUR KNEE WILL BOW AND TOUR TOUNGE WILL CONFESS JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!!!!!

20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 30, 2003 4:54 AM

How can you talk about our Lord, Jesus like that?  Unbelievable.  I will pray for your soul.


20
 RE: Go Mel!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 24, 2003 9:49 PM

I'm not sure why you would be laughing when Jesus is being nailed to the cross.  Jesus died for US.  I don't think you should see to movie if you're just going to laugh.  I hope you meet God soon.

 Jesus took a chance   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 30, 2003 10:58 PM

Jesus died a brutal death, one that this movie may communicate to you better than words. He died, willingly, just to give you a chance. A chance to accept HIM as Lord. Even though he knew so many of us would spit in His face, then and today and mock everything He ever did for us. The truth is, regardless of every joke and offense to Jesus, everyone of us will one day see Jesus face to face. And based on whether or not you accepted HIm with your heart or rejected HIm, your sould will face eternity with, or without HIm. This alone will most likely not convince those who mock, but I just ask you to think, if there is no God, and no redeption for man, then what is the purpose of life?

20
 RE: Jesus took a chance   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 23, 2003 3:55 PM

Why must there be a purpose?

 The Passion   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 1, 2003 9:26 PM

The Truth, doesnt any one person, any one religion, seek and persue the Truth........

20
 RE: The Passion   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 5:55 AM

Sure, every religion is in pursuit OF the Truth, but only Christianity can claim it was the other way around, God pursuing US! Buddha, Mohommed, Confucius, Malcom X, and every body else may have sincerely sought the truth, but being human, couldn't reach it.
Jesus was human, but He was something more, proven by His Ressurection!
Had Jesus not ressurrected, the disciples would have been peeing their pants up in the upper room until the Jews or the Romans killed them, and instead, Jesus showed up and POW, they start preaching everywhere!

Every religion may be in pursuit of the Truth, but only in Christianity, in the Universal Church that Jesus established,(meaning all Protestants and Catholics) did God reach down and reveal Himself fully and completely in the person of Christ.


--end---


The Jewish Church was the predecent of the Catholic, being that God revealed Himself to the Prophets, thus preparing the way, 'crying out in the desert', to show man that Jesus is his savior.
It is when God is born, around 5 BC, as man-- with historical, archealogical, and circumstancial evidence-- that man's sincere desire for the truth is answered.

Email me if you want to  know more :

jon3050@000email.com

 Nazi + Christianity = Holocaust   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2003 1:03 PM

It is precisely these kindas of "passion Plays" that were required watching for the SS storm troopers, so that they wouldn't feel bad for slaughtering men, women and children alike. Nice going Mel! What a way to bring back Uberstormfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler's vision. Go Mel Adolf Hitler is laughing from hell.

20
 RE: Nazi   Christianity = Holocaust   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 6, 2003 6:21 AM

Oh yeah that's right Hitler was a christian!  Oh how I could have overlooked such a fact!...You are an IDIOT!  Note the term IDIOT.

20
 RE: Nazi   Christianity = Holocaust   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 6, 2003 10:26 AM

Shempy of Stoogeville

Look up Caiphas and then in light of what you find, get back to us on the stormtroopers!!   ROFL

20
 RE: Nazi   Christianity = Holocaust   > reply 
Posted by Danjoeblue (bla.com) on August 6, 2003 8:19 PM

Your ignoance astounds me.  I will never understand why people so boldly speak out on things they know nothing about.  You have obviously not studied the Bible nor history.  Hitler was not a Christian according to the Biblical definition.  Christian means "little Christ."  It is one who strives to imitate Jesus Christ in his humility, love, kindness, gentleness, grace, etc. and accepts what Christ did on our behalf.  Many of you may be unaware of the fact that JESUS WAS A JEW!  Just because someone professes Christ does not mean he is a true follower!  You have to look at Christ Himself by doing a Biblical historical, and background study of His life to find out what the faith is truly all about.  
Have you ever heard of Deitrich Bonhoffer?  he was a Christian theologian in Geremany during World War II and was involved in plans to try to destory Hitler to help prevent the death of more Jews.  He was eventually imprisoned and executed for his actions against the Nazis'.  For your information many Dutch Reformed Christian people aided and helped many, many jews during the war.  Please use your brain in a productive manner before spouting of vain, meaningless and false comments.

40
 RE: Nazi � Christianity = Holocaust   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 7:00 PM

I couldn't agree more with you

 scoffers will watch it anway   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 7, 2003 5:29 PM

All you who scoff, laugh and blaspheme are going to  go and pay and watch this film.  Because you know it is the true.

20
 RE: scoffers will watch it anway   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 5:57 AM

Ho ho, how true! Boy, won't those God loves come, and let us pray theyll be touched!



 WHY?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 7, 2003 5:33 PM

What evokes in you all such hate for this movie? Theres thousands more out there, why do you hate what you dont belive in more then whats real to you. For example, clock work orange is a praised movie, its central theme is compassion for rapests, why isnt that worse then fairy tales put on screen. Why arent you outraged at images of flagrent violence against women?. All true christians want is peace, and something to belive in. The fact that you hate them so much makes me think theres more to there stories then fairy tale, go get a real cause. Fight against rape, fight against tobacco, fight against alcahol, fight against the emptyness inside you, your bickering leads to nothing, and you can taste its ruin. Love, joy, peace, patiants, gentelness, self controll, my friend tells me this is what it says is in his bible, so why do you guys hate it so much, if its not real?

(question everything means question yourself, before you opean your mind, opean your heart, or else you will have nothing to guide you)

 shame   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 8, 2003 3:27 AM

It never ceases to amaze me the inability of any one particularly in the west to accept people who are christians, and all that entails. There seems to be so much needless guilt, that we may offend someone, with outward Christian action and deed. The major media outlets, lampoon and critisize. Hollywood in general is hostile to "THE WORD", yet we have every other faith group shoved down our throat, in an attempt at "understanding!" Why must children in school be exposed to eastern religions, created holidays (Kwanza) and the contiual decline of ethic and virtue. When at the very time that ALL students are being released for Christmas holidays, the name of Christ must be removed. So as to not to offend anyone, yet everyone is invited to "get into the season." What has happened to us over the last 30/50 years, and are we better for it.

 Jews & Gentiles   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 9, 2003 9:11 PM

What happened when Jesus came?
When Jesus was Born:
The Angel said to Joseph
Fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Matthew ch 1 v 20-21

The Angel said to Mary
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. Luke ch 1v 35

The Angels said to the Shepherds
Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke ch 1 v 10-11

What reception did He get?
Herod tried to kill Him
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men. Matthew ch 2 v 16

The Nation of Israel rejected Him as their King
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. John ch1 v 10-12

His Life
He showed the love of God to man
God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Acts ch10v 38
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, Luke ch 4v18

His Death
He was rejected by the Jewish rulers. The common people cried,' Away with Him, crucify him.' The Roman power carried out the act of crucifiction. When men were shown to be at their worst, God used it to bring in salvation for all. When the sun was blotted out and it was dark for three hours Jesus was punished for the sin of the world.
Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew ch 27v 45& 46 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree. 1Peter ch 2v24
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isaiah ch 53v5
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isaiah ch 53v6 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.John ch 1v29
the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Galations ch 2v20

He rose again from the dead!
On the first day of the week when the women went to the tomb they were told that Christ was alive. The punishment for sin had been paid in full and death could not hold him. He came out of the tomb leaving the grave clothes behind!
He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Matthew ch 28v6
But now is Christ risen from the dead 1Corinthians ch 15v20
Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. Luke ch 24v34
When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. John ch 2v22
And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. John 20v20
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Acts ch 2v32

He ascended to heaven
Forty days after Jesus had met with His disciples He lead them to Bethany on the Mt. of Olives and after He had spoken to them he went up into the clouds to heaven. He is now there as a man waiting till the time comes to bring all those who belong to Him to be with Him there.
And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. Luke ch 24v51
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John ch 3v13
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. Mark ch 16v19
I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. John ch 16v28  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


20
 RE: Jews & Gentiles   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 6:04 AM

Rock on!

  But theres MORE!

Jesus has been present with us since he's ascended ever since Pentecost, and His Holy Spirit descended upon us, and whats more-- God has been so gracius to give us the Bread of Life, His Flesh, His Blood, at any priest's hands in consecration!

IF you look throughout time, Jesus has been infinitely present, in people like ST Francis, St Ignatius, Bishop Romero, Mary appearing throughout the world, and in many of our Protestant brothers who sincerely searched after Christ!

But blessed is the man who takes no offence at me!

Jesus established His Church, the Universal Church, and sadly, because of deadly sin lived in the lives of priests and in the lives of one we know as Martin, His prayer, that 'they may be one as we(Father and Son) are one,' is only half true!
We may be one in spirit, but not in body, as seen in the stereotypical Protestant Fundamentalist, or in the Catholic Radical, or in the KKK, although we all are sinners, let us strive after Our Lord, and not after our PRIDE!

God bless you my brothers and sisters!

40
 RE: Jews & Gentiles   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 3:06 PM

How great it is that we can expereince the  real presence of Our Lord each week . . .

He must REALLY love us!

As for those that mock, let's pray for them. Remember, it was our King that said, "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do". He said this about all of humanity, not simply one group. It is rather simplistic of us to assume that those who crucified Him were Jewish-it was all of our sins that caused Him to sacrifice himself.

Does anyone read Scripture anymore????

60
 RE: Jews & Gentiles   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 17, 2003 8:07 PM

Amen,

Jesus death paid the price for all ours sins, Jews and Gentiles alike.

 Mel Gibson's Catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 5:43 AM

The thought that Mel's movie, The Passion would inflame Catholic Bishops is absurd. He actually took the movie's trailer, to some high bishops of the Catholic faith, which in return, appluaded Mel's effort to portray the Jesus of the Gospels.

20
 RE: Mel Gibson's Catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 1:58 PM

Mel Gibson is not Catholic, as Americans all claim to be.  He rejects the authority of the Pope and also rejects the Catholic church's position that jews are not responsible for Christ's death.  Most American Catholics are not even Christians.  want proof?  Find a Catholic and ask him/her what they believe, and what gives them eternal salvation.  They don't know, and therefore, they do not know God, or Jesus.

40
 RE: Mel Gibson's Catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 3:28 PM

Apparently you do not know Catholicism. Not ONLY are Catholics Christian, but from where do you think protestant and non-catholic Christian denominations arise?

Maybe you may want to study your Christian history before you say or print anything else? You may be surprised!

Furthermore, don't be like everyone else and apply the grave sins of the few to the masses. That, in its simplist form, is prejudism based on a stereotype.

None are Godly.

60
 RE: Mel Gibson's Catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 20, 2004 9:52 PM

I think that the previous poster was not claiming that Catholics weren't truly Christians.  I think he or she meant that most American Catholics are so poorly taught these days, by priests and other church leaders who are afraid of giving offense, that the average American who describes himself or herself as a Catholic may not believe in such things as the Trinity or the Resurrection.  Perhaps an exaggeration, but I think he or she makes a good point.  Vatican II was a very good thing for the Church, but in its implementation, a lot of people thought they didn't have to catechize or evangelize any more.  Something important needs to be reclaimed and brought back into the Church.

40
 RE: Mel Gibson's Catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:40 AM

Note: Every Christian was under the name "CATHOLIC" at least since 200 AD, CATHOLIC in latin means universal. The Protestant church diverged from the Theology imparted by Christ to the Catholic Church as it was in the 1500s. Martin formed his OWN theology. Martin was an imperfect man-- Christ was the second Adam, the IAM, the Lamb of God, the Perfect man, the MESSIAH, the Son of God, and on. Jesus left the twelve Apostles when He ascended, not a Bible, and the Bible even if examined closely, refutes Martin's theology--

Purgatory-- 1 Cor 3:10-15
Eucharist(Lord's Supper) as Christ Himself-- John 6
Salvation as a path--1 Peter 1-9
Rejection of some "Christians" on entry to Heaven-- John 15:2
Matt 22:1-14

Jesus had said, whoever overlooks a letter of the Law and teaches others to do so will be the least in the Kingdom of Heaven, brothers, and sisters, let us not overlook the Scriptures as they are, and not in Martin's eyes, but in Jesus' Church's eyes.

God Bless

Jon3050@000email.com

 Gibson, Jesus, Anti-Semtism   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 1:53 PM

I don't see why the Jews should even care whether or not they are portrayed as acting in collusion with Rome in the death of Jesus of Nazareth.  They don't believe in him, so, for them, he isn't a deity, but just another (deluded) Jew.  And why should they not have freedom to believe in their religion?

20
 RE: Gibson, Jesus, Anti-Semtism   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 11, 2003 2:00 PM

They are totally free to believe as they wish.  God gives all total choice to accept, or reject Christ.

40
 RE: Gibson, Jesus, Anti-Semtism   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:22 AM

Yes, but free choice is given soley so that they may indeed accept Jesus for who He is: the I am, the Alpha and the Omega, and so that they may truly partake in this joy, as 1 Peter 1:7 says, "Though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, you beleive in Him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorius joy."
It is only because God loves man enough to let him reject this joy that He gave man freedom-- not to abuse freedom. Jesus said, The Truth will set you free. Only those who freely bond themselves to Christ, are truly free-- free from sin, agony and even death. They experience the true joy of Christ.
Those who in the name of freedom swear, blaspheme, fornicate, and sin are not free-- but bound to the very sins they commit-- who do you know that drinks alchohol over an appropriate ammount the is not bound to his drink? Just the same is he who commits sin in the name of freedom.
Be free-- draw near to Jesus!

20
 RE: Gibson, Jesus, Anti-Semtism   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:30 AM

If Jesus was a deluded Jew, don't you think at least ONE of the Twelve Apostles would have found out? Or if He was but a crazy person, why did Eleven of the Twelve die in HIS name? And whats more, why is 1/3 of the world following after this "delusion"?
I think the answer is that maybe He was not deluded, but the world. Why is it that you hate this man? To find a deluded man, you go to an asylum. However, many of Christ's most devote followers (Franciscans, Jesuits, Dominicans, Sisters of Charity, etc) are to be found in Universities, teaching, or on streets, feeding. Why, if this man was but a delusion, did He spur the increasing morality and awareness of sin that spread since 30 AD? I think the only crazy thing Christ ever did was to choose to Love us. Jesus took a big risk to come down here, but it paid off-- He died for you, and rose again!

Jon3050@000email.com


20
 RE: Gibson, Jesus, Anti-Semtism   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 23, 2003 4:05 PM

many, many, many times throughout history, such displays brought hostilites to them (jews and others). Who wants more prejudice?

 a comment   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 12, 2003 11:11 AM

i am totally behind mel gibson on this.  this sight gives Christianity and our Lord Jesus a really bad name.  the sight that was given is not "wacked" i read their doctrinal statement and it's perfectly sound.  the reason why everyone is giving him such greif abou this is because people know that they have sin in their life and don't want to hear about Jesus and how he died on the cross for our sins.  that would be saying that they have sin.  i'll be praying for this film that some may know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

a follower of Jesus.

20
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 12, 2003 1:33 PM

"Not wacked?!" You better be f*cking kidding.

If you think that racism discrimination, bigotry, hatred, and injustice is "perfectly sound" there is something terribly "wack" with YOU!

If you are as you say a Christian or "follower of Jesus" some serious questions regarding your sanity should be addressed. I am not a Christian but I have a very strong knowledge of the Bible. Racism is not supported anywhere the Bible. Beyond that, Jesus was a dark-skinned Arabic, not a blue eyed German or Anglo Saxon.

If Christians are anything like the creators of that website, perhaps there's a group of people who deserve discrimination.

40
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:45 AM

Jesus is depicted as our race for greater understanding and easier relation to Him in the movie. The bible does not support racism, but this movie is good because it reveals Christ as in His Passion, the Jews and Romans did crucify Him but so did we all as a human race shouted, "Crucify Him!" in our sins.
I back up my brother in that this movie is good so long as you don't read anti-semitism into it!

20
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:42 AM

Amen, Brother!


20
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by Loath (sam@aigraphics.com) on August 12, 2003 12:55 PM

Not "whacked"? Read THIS and say that again.

40
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 13, 2003 6:17 AM

Oh... nice website and who would be your webMASTER?  Are you kidding me??  Some guys got together and said, "Yeah, I REALLY like that art work, let's put it RIGHT on the front page!"

[Fade to Darkness]

60
 RE: a comment   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 3:21 PM

I am sorry that this ridiculousness exists. It comes down to this: we are all fallen. Some are able to see this as clear as day, some are deluding themselves with predjudiced nonsense. Satan can use Scripture for his own purposes. Do you REALLY think that someone who was willing to die for all of humanity would single someone out based on their skin tone? That is absurd. The website given is present only to pull more people away from God, allowing greater resentment for Christianity to foster.

That is what Satan does.

I, too, have a knowledge of Scripture, Philosophy, and Theology and DO believe in God, Jesus, and His Church. Yes, Jesus had dark hair, dark eyes, was of Middle eastern decent. (As for Arabic, that is debatable since some that are Middle Eastern in origin will claim to be Arabic and some will not. However, is that REALLY important?)

If you can find a source that you trust, the more questions you ask, the more you will discover the truth too, not some (pardon my cursing) bullsh*t as given on that fake-Christian website.

God bless you!

 John T   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 12, 2003 12:07 PM


Why should Mel not make a film that he wants to make. This country is a free country. We do not like censorship. Jews should not feel bad about death of Lord Jesus Christ. It was not these Jews who killed him.

Can you imagine if someone was to make a film about slavery and all the Christians start making noise that this is making us look bad. Ofcourse, slavery is a bad thing but we today have nothing to be ashamed of. We did not do anything wrong. Those who did wrong will pay before God.

John.

 The death of Christ - Mel Gibson   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 13, 2003 4:23 AM

The lives of individuals are taken each day, somewhere in this  world, at the hands of individuals of various races and nationalities.
Even though Christ was crucified at the hands of the Jewish religious leaders of that day, as recorded in Matthew Cp. 23 and John Cp 11, it is foolish if not insane for an individual or organization to take aim at an entire race or nationality for His crucifiction.
In reality, the Scriptures hold all mankind responsible for the death of Christ, as it was the sins of mankind that required a payment by God the Father,for the forgiveness of ones sins. Repentance is required of mankind for his / her part in this crucifixion.

20
 RE: The death of Christ - Mel Gibson   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 6:59 AM

Jesus was indeed but one man. However, His Blood makes atonement for our sins only because in and of Himself He is God, just as God the Father and God the Holy Spirit are God in and of themselves, and yet, they are all One in nature and are the One God.
Jesus' Death matters so much since He is God the Son, and in His Crucifixion makes atonement for our sins, this atonement is brought to the present at the Sacrement of Confesssion, and His Blood and Body is made present at the Altar in the hands of a Priest.
Jesus was a man. Jesus was God. Somehow-- get this-- Jesus was 100% man, and 100% God. Jesus was a person, with all the frailties, limitations and weaknesses we all have experienced--save original sin, and sin committed-- who was also God.
Phillipians 2:5-11
"Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus,
 Who though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.
 Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance,
 he humbled himself,
 becoming obedient to death,
 even death on a cross.
 Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
 that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bend,
 of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth,
 end every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

The freedom is yours right now-- to bend your knee, or confess with your tongue, but oh-- if you should but bend the slightest, or just whisper His name in awe! If I were you, I would beg me to tell you of His awesomenity, His sublime humility, His humble sublimity!
Peter says that we are indeed filled with an "inexpressible and glorius joy" when we truly Love this Lord offered to us by God our Father.
I beg of you, Love Jesus, Love Him, all of you, with all your hearts, so that you may experience true Joy, true Fulfilment, true Love in Christ!
Why would you not want to have the Lord as your own? He only wants you to love Him-- His love of you is so desperate, so huge! To partake in this Person of Christ is the fulfillment of every Human Person ever created! To strive after, and attain perfection in His love is the greatest of all goals-- and whats greater, is that the Holy Spirit-- The immense Love that proceeds from God the Father and God the Son, should come down, and enter into your self, and fill your entire being! Only open the door, He does not ransak your household, but He gentle slides in, and with Him comes joy inexpressible, love beyond that of any other.

St Augustine said that "All the way to Heaven is Heaven because Christ said ' I am the Way.'"

Partake in Heaven!
Partake in Christ!

\

 Why is Mel's movie any different   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 13, 2003 9:14 PM

I have seen some of the scenes and it looks like he protrayed it the way it really happened.  So what?? Are we not in America?? I stand behind freedom of speech.  If porn movies can be made in all their glory than so can a crucifiction.  Give me a Break!! What the hell is all the bickering about anyway. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  So let Mel show his movie.  We are the public and we want to see it in all it's glory.  A Jesus fan.

 Tell it all Mel   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2003 9:03 AM

Just another attempt to lead America further down the path of darkness by zionist filth.  Why shouldn't christians be angry at jews.  They only crucified our lord and savior, however, it was only because of our lord and savior's own willingness to sacrifice his mortal exsistence for our greater good.  This is not the United States of Israel, and it's damn time America wakes up and realizes that our plague is not arab terrorists or anything other than jews.  They control the media our banks and our politicians.  It's time for us to take our country back from these filthy manipulators of the truth, and if it takes a Mel Gibson movie to snap us back to reality, so be it.  Don't believe me?  How many jews died on 9/11.  None of them went to work at the trade centers that day.  Research it for yourself.  The are soley responsible for that trajedy.  Oh, one more point, not to advocate Nazism of Hitler, but it was the jews who declared war on Germany before Germany declared war on them.  Open your eyes America.  Quit living in ignorrant bliss.

20
 RE: Tell it all Mel   > reply 
Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 14, 2003 12:33 PM

This guy wants to be just like Mel in Conspiracy theory. Either that or he's smoked some damn good bud and got carried away with his paranoias and theories. It's okay I do that sometimes. Although, it's not always good to use Jews and 9/11 as subjects. Try the Bush family, that one will tie in well with the 9/11 connection.

40
 Try with Bushes instead of jews   > reply 
Posted by Skullfire (skullfire@clarinmail.com) on August 14, 2003 6:33 PM

Whom happens to love Israel and his way of dealing with foreigners (aka palestinians) and has, indeed, WMD.
But this is just a coincidence.

20
 RE: Tell it all Mel   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2003 2:12 PM

finally someone who's not afraid to speak out

20
 Zionism at it's worst   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 30, 2003 10:04 AM

I wouldn't say that the Jews declared war on Germany first because that could easily be misconstrued as false.  What's more accurate is the Zionist reactionaries openly declared war on Germany in 1933 and in effect catalyzed a government response.  Initially jewish families were to be deported from Germany, but the Zionists refused to comply - thus sentencing thousands of their own people to death for their political ideologies.

This is not to say that Germany wasn't completely mad for witch hunting.  But a simple analogy could be made between Germany and the US, who interned Japanese families.

Check out a sobering view of the subject here:
Jews Against Zionism

 Pants   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2003 11:20 AM

I enjoy wearing pants.

20
 RE: Pants   > reply 
Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 15, 2003 4:08 PM

There's something very noble in that.

 Mel's New Movie   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2003 5:28 AM

Looking forward to seeing this movie. Control always occurs when elements of The Truth are presented... You da' man Mel!

 You are all sick   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 6:51 PM

You make me sad you know, with all your anger and stupidity that wont take you anywhere. Just try to live your lives and stop trying to blame your own sins on people who have nothing to do with them.

 and you call yourselves catholic!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 17, 2003 6:57 PM

I'm a jew and I'm not afraid to speak out. Most of my family was killed in WW2, but we moved on, nothing good comes with hate and that's all you are doing right now, hating and blaming without real evidence and that's just sad.
I study in a Christian university, I took theology classes, most of my friends are christian and I have nothing against muslims unless they have something against jews I try not to make judgements without thinking them before, so your hate towards my beliefs is just plain sad. If you hate jews so much, why do you use our book as past of you Bible??
we have more in common than you think..

 off topic   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 18, 2003 9:54 PM

When you recommended that site did you check to see if the site reflected Mr. Gibson's beliefs? I didn't see anything on that site that said that it was the work of trad. Catholics which Gibson says he belongs to.

 Subverting The Truth   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 19, 2003 11:56 AM

Many people have important facts and passionate opinions they wish to communicate regarding this movie in particular and religion in general.  The one thing i will say is that whether you be Christian or atheist, Jewish or Muslim, rich or poor.....if you don't use proper spelling and grammar, you will come across as ignorant and will harm the very cause you're attempting to help.  Take the time to at least SOUND educated - this is living mindfully, which should be at the heart of us all (devout or not).

20
 RE: Subverting The Truth   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 11:55 AM

D�jate de decir pendejadas por favor!!! El �nico est�pido que no sabe escribir eres t�!
I posted one of the comments over here and I'm not a native English speaker, so if you don't like my spelling or grammar, you can just f*ck yourself!!
This is a place for people to express their thoughts, not a literature forum and if they misspell a word it isn't your right to criticize them


40
 Calma, no te gast�s tanto   > reply 
Posted by Skullfire (skullfire@clarinmail.com) on August 22, 2003 8:57 PM

Como eterno batallador de los an�nimos intolerantes, te recomiendo que te lo tomes m�s tranquilo. No te enredes tan vehementemente con tipos como estos que no pueden expresar sus ideas en la realidad porque saben que los cagar�an a palos. Vas a hacer saltar las teclas.
Ah, y en el nombre de la Real Academia Espa�ola de Letras, pon� el signo de admiraci�n adelante de las puteadas...

 THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 19, 2003 2:41 PM

I'm vehemently against this movie being made! It will turn people against the Jewish community! Let's not forget how "Birth of a Nation" made the KKK membership surge OR when "Braveheart" reignited the Scottish Revolution OR the slaughter of all those poor aliens after that infernal "Independence Day" came out!!

It's just a movie, people.

 Jews killed Jesus   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 28, 2003 3:22 PM

Read the Bible, which clearly tells how Jews killed Jesus. Not only then-Jews, but anyone who rejects Jesus today is also killing Jesus.

 Non-Christians   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 30, 2003 10:27 AM

I can say with some degree of authority that I've made an intellegent and thoughtful decision when I chose to walk a different path.  Christianity is thick in my family:
* Baptist Minister (Grandfather - Mother's Father)
* Protestant Minister (Uncle Steve - Mother's Brother)
* Greek Orthodox Theologian (Uncle Doug - Mother's Brother)
* Catholic Priest (Uncle John - Father's Brother)
* Baptist Teacher (My own mother)


Middle eastern religions tend to have a scathing, judgemental, superstitious and hypocritical point of view.  I know that this might get the flames started but it's only my simple observation.  A good example is the number of forces against the release of the film and more importantly their reasons:
* Catholics - Mel Gibson strongly spoke out against the authority of the Pope on past occasions.
* Zionists - Eternally outraged and offended, they consider anything that doesn't glorify jews as anti-semitical.


As someone who has long abandoned the notion of faith, I'm still interested in seeing the movie regardless of whether or not it jives with the Catholic or Zionist ideals.  In fact, if I discover that the film's script has been altered for some ridiculous detante I won't see it!  Ever!  The moment you give in to these forces they'll keep you under their thumb for all times.  I go to the theatre once in a blue moon because of the mind-numbing lack of honesty (that is the integrity of the film as the writers and directors originally saw it) due to the influence of outside forces, not just the parties mentioned.

As someone who views middle eastern religions as archaic and passe, I must say I'm still excited to see one man's UNABRIDGED vision of history.

20
 RE: Non-Christians   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2003 2:51 PM

Can you hold the stars in their place?

They that call on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. We are all siners and anyone who recongnises this and acknoledges that Jesus is the Son of God and died on the cross for our sins and rose again then confess it. That is a "Christian" but more importantly it is being Born Again

40
 RE: Non-Christians   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 27, 2003 7:44 AM

Hold stars in their place?

And where is "Their Place" as you so put it?

Is it oppressively under your boot?

Mel Gibson is an American Citizen and his "Place" is protected regardless of the maligning beliefs of others.  More importantly, your quote is a contradiction.  He movie is calling on the Lord's name so according to you he cannot be kept in his place because your quote divine mandate emancipates him from any transgressions.

60
 RE: Non-Christians   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2004 1:54 PM

I believe the person you replied to was referring to the stars
(celestial masses of gas/energy/ice/etc) in space, not 'movie' stars, or actors, seen on television.

 From a Christian   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 4, 2003 6:22 AM

You do not know how as a Christian, I have been waiting so hard for a true, quality Christian movie!
I am glad Mel kept his stand despite the pressure!

Keep it up, Mel!

 guilty   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 9, 2003 1:06 PM

I can't imagine people going to a movie and not becoming emotional about who is the good guy or the bad guy.  We have to have a hero.  Americans want this in a movie and the money made by the creators of such proves it!  So what is everyone complaining about?  And as for the Jews?  God had a plan and it was fulfilled with or without them.  Someone had to do it and if it wasn't them then it would be somebody.  Would we be as worried about their portrayal?  The point is, every one of us are guilty or the man would not have had to die on the cross in the first place!

20
 RE: I have awsome Jewish friends , whats going on?   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 25, 2003 6:30 PM

Ok , umm , I'm feeling sort of weirded out here. That nicey nicey "Christian" site is KKK? really? I couldn't find that part of it. Is this guy you talk of out of the kkk now??? This is terribal . As a Christian it's really upsetting to me .  I wan't to KNOW when I'm on a sick site!!!!

 Christian,Jew,Catholic,morman,Born Again   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2003 2:45 PM

They that call on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. We are all siners and anyone who recongnises this and acknoledges that Jesus is the Son of God and died on the cross for our sins and rose again then confess it. That is a "Christian" but more importantly it is being Born Again

 Thanks Mel   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2003 3:00 PM

Hey guy ill see you in Heaven and I will introduce myself Im James anyway Thank for Standing up as we know its getting very late. I would Love to see a real dipiction of the 7 years soon to come. I think it might bring in some more hardcore unbelievers. Just a thought I often wanted to do it myself but I only have a few hundred bucks lol so hey go for it. modmanmobo@yahoo.com

20
 RE: Thanks Mel   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2003 3:03 PM

Christian,Jews, catholic,morman, Born Again one etc is James to.

 Jesus   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 13, 2003 8:00 PM

the jews were responsible for killing Jesus.

20
 RE: Jesus   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 23, 2003 4:21 PM

Yeah, they killed him alright, then they killed Santa Clause, and then it was Snoopy's turn. They've killed lots of make believe people, next on the list is god, and then Prof. Frink.

 HELL HELL BURN IN HELL   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 24, 2003 8:04 AM

I am saved, and the members of MY CONGREGATION and I will ASCEND INTO HEAVEN during THE RAPTURE, and the rest of you APOSTATES, HERETICS and MOCKERS are going to HELL!

because god loves you

kiss kiss

 Gibson is a courageous genius   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 25, 2003 8:49 AM

Hey Mel... you have balls.  Well done.  Can't wait for The Passion and tell those "Bishops" and "Jewish Leaders" to take a breather until your work is out... Religion sucks, Christ rules.

 Why???   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 24, 2003 10:01 PM

I've read a few of the comments that were made and I don't know why you are turning away from the Lord.  The Lord has done so many things for you and you do not see all of them, but you should know in your heart that Jesus is there with you to help you.  If you turn away from Jesus he will turn away from you at the gates of heaven.

God bless everyone.

 I just saw this movie...   > reply 
Posted by Nila443 (nila443@hotmail.com) on February 28, 2004 7:44 PM

I just saw this movie today...Well, i think it's another brilliant work of Mel Gibson. As "Brave Heart was".
And i don't think it's only about religion in this movie or wanting to say that jews are bad. It's about to show how Mel saw, what was givven to him to say.
Most of the movie about jews are about how bed is there life, how we should cry for them. But hello, that did what they did, that was there Karma. And Mel just showed the truth. Most of the movie about them sponsored by Jews, so it's there point of view, how hopless there life but they are actually "so good" (like in the "Pianist").
It's an honest movie of the person who wanted to show what he felt, what he saw. I think he was chosen to say. By God. And i'm Hindu. peronally, and i am not the antisimit. But i think that's the best work i've ever seen so far. And i understand why Mel Gibson did it.
Good luck MEl!

 The Passion   > reply 
Posted by deistman (bbob40@comcast.net) on March 3, 2004 9:57 AM

Just thought that everyone would like to know that this movie is actually adapted from The Dolorous Passion of Christ, a novel written by a mentally disturbed nun in the Middle Ages, recounting her "vision" of the last 12 hours of the life of Ben Yehoshua (the actual historical figure of Christ).   Also, The Holy Family is NOT recognized by the Catholic Church as being legitimate, and the earlier poster had it right, they do NOT recognize Vatican II.   Additionally, Mel's father, Hutton Gibson, is a rabid antisemite and conspiracy theorist, whose views on the jews have been published in many books.  
Also, those of you that are offended by posters, you understand that many people have a need to be "spoilers."
I am no longer a Christian (I take the middle way), and I take great exception to the flip and smug manner in which a few of you have referred to Buddhism, but I know where this stuff comes from.  As spiritual beings, we need something larger than ourselves.  Christians call it redemption, Buddhists call it enlightenment, but many theologians recognize it as the same thing.    As humans, however, we have a deep and abiding need to be RIGHT, and to be acknowledged as such.    And that's okay, we all understand.
Finally, those of you that use Christian Scripture to "prove" Christianity are missing the point.  Unsupported text is just that, and you cannot prove a postulate with a postulate.   The bible can no more prove itself than can the Talmud or the Koran.   Faith is what is required to believe such texts, and that's what ends it.
AND, no matter what the religion, I will NEVER believe that the creator sanctions the hatred and terrorization of ANY ethnic group, whether it's african americans in a NY precinct, or Jews at Mauthausen, or Palestinians in Benin.
Finally, if you truly believe the bible, then you should believe that God sent Ben Yehoshua to DIE.    PERIOD.   Therefore, the primary culpability for the death of your Savior rests with him.
Okay, go back to sniping at one another, you seem to enjoy it.
Namaste'
Bob


Post YOUR opinion!

 


Support dtheatre.com: Get cool merchandise!

Search dvds by keyword or cast:

Visit Sideshow Collectibles
Click here to buy film and
tv collectibles!
Click here to buy movie posters!
Click here to buy movie posters!

CURRENT HOT TOPICS

THUNDERBIRDS Trailer Online (8)

Scarlett Johansson Cast in SpongeBob Movie! (6)

Cruise, Spielberg to go to War (3)

RECENT HEADLINES

1st KILL BILL VOL. 2 Review!!!

Behold, The Batman Begins Batmobile! (2)

Jack Black Cast in Peter Jackson's King Kong!

Oscar Winning Writer/Actor Sir Peter Ustinov Dies

Is Another X-Files Movie in the Mill?

Zoinks! Scooby-Doo 2 Makes $30.7 million

New Harry Potter Prisoner of Azkaban Trailer!

More BATMAN BEGINS Casting News! (1)

SENSELESS SURVEY
Most Anticipated Summer Blockbuster
Van Helsing
Troy
The Day After Tomorrow
Spider Man 2
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Debbie Does Dallas IV


[view results]

DONATE!
Support DT! Donate With PayPal:
LINK US!

dtheatre.com
dtheatre.com

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.
Comments are owned by the poster. The rest � 2000 Digital Theatre, an Ai Graphics (AIGC) Production.