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Terminator 3 Will Undergo Rewrite
By Azad on June 20, 2001 6:43 PM
According to news from the Popcorn UK web site, writing duo John Brancato and Michael Ferris have signed up to pen a rewrite to Terminator 3. The original script was written earlier by Ted Sarafian, and was thought to have Arnold Schwarzenegger's now famous T-800 cyborg battle against an evil female robot, believed to be able to shift shape and disappear altogether.
And as in any movie in the making, there have been a lot of casting rumours. Since the project went into development last year, there has been a lot of speculation as to who would play the evil female cyborg. Earlier rumors indicated that perhaps Carrie Ann Moss (The Matrix) may take the role, but currently, press speculation has it that Famke Janssen (Goldeneye and X-Men) will be the new arch-nemesis. However, with a new script now being written, the film's entire premise could change entirely.
Also, Vin Diesel (Pitch Black) has also been linked to the project, although when asked by Popcorn recently, the actor remained tight-lipped.
Brancato and Ferris are best known for penning the script to David Fincher's 1997 thriller The Game and also the cyberthriller The Net.
Once the dispute between the actors' union SAG and producers is resolved, Terminator 3 should be set to begin production. Both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Edward Furlong have agreed to reprise their roles, although no other casting has been announced.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on June 19, 2001 4:25 PM
I am well aware that I'm in the minority, but I think T2 sucked. The first Terminator was pretty good, the second started great, but all came crashing down with the touching Disney scene in the end with Furlong crying. It made be vomit. Arnold has only one masterpiece to date: "Predator"! My two cents.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 19, 2001 11:14 PM
This is gonna be like the Friday the 13th series, isn't it? The first one was good, the second one was good, but weak, the third one is gonna blow. It's like Batman now, "Who's gonna be the villian?"
I thought the T800 was the last, and best, Terminator Skynet made before they blew it up. Then they gave us the T1000. Now we got shape shifting women?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 5:42 AM
"The Future is unset..." everything has changed now that Dyson is dead, and the arm and chip are melted. The future has been altered, and as far as writing goes, anything is fair game. You want a shape shifting woman, you got it.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on June 20, 2001 5:48 PM
Speaking of which, the newest sequel is coming out soon. Takes place on a space ship, and Jason is unfrozen and then of course murders the entire crew. I'm not making this up,really.
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Posted by Tanner (Tanner_the_tenor@excite.com) on June 27, 2001 11:37 AM
i think that the shapeshifting woman idea is great i mean we need more villianesses in movies today and i think its coming around but shapeshifting would be a great part of the plot i mean you dont know who to trust and you dont know who to turn to and there is nothing more scary and more suspenseful than that.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 8:49 PM
If you thought T2 sucked then you don't know what a good movie is
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on June 21, 2001 5:36 AM
Is there any merit behind your comment, or was it supposed to sound stupid. I think Blade Runner, Star Wars, Last of the Mohicans, Cool Hand Luke, A Fist Full of Dollars, and Raider of the Lost Ark are all great movies. Do you mean to tell us that these movies that these are not good movies, or are you simply not too bright RANDOM SHEMP. T2 sucked.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 22, 2001 6:35 AM
You have so much unchecked agression there Hells kitchen. Maybe you should take your buddy Joey Mullen from behind and call it a life.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on June 22, 2001 8:13 AM
I didn't understand a word you just said RANDOM SHEMP, and the name is 100% AMERICAN.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 12, 2002 6:58 PM
I do not think t2 sucked. but i wish Arnold could have killed people. :)
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Posted by nonne (No Email) on June 26, 2001 4:01 PM
Sounds like you are not too bright.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 12, 2002 6:59 PM
nonne you saying i am not bright?
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on June 27, 2001 6:32 AM
What an intelligent statement. It was backed up by a logical reasoning and focused on the subject matter. Nonne, are you sure your not really an intelligent person. Judging from your comment everyone here agrees you must be retarded; thus your nickname here at dtheatre: "Retarded Nonne".
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 27, 2001 12:24 PM
It's okay, it's because you're fat. Oh yeah and you're a moron too. You must be one of those pseudo film critics who tries to find the true meaning of the movie in one scene. If it's good in the beginning, it's good to the last drop. Unless we're talking about Pulp fiction, wherein the thought of a sequel is about to make my head explode. There-I'm done..oh wait..no breakfast!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 12, 2002 6:53 PM
What sucked about t2? the Furlong telling Arnold that he can not kill any one?
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Posted by Pumpkin Boy (pumpkin_pie_studios@hotmail.com) on June 19, 2001 8:37 PM
The to which you refer was a harbinger of things to come.... recall the grueling horror of.... TITANIC!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 6:01 AM
Is everyone on this site a moron. How can you shoot down T2. The movie was brilliant. Not to mention the technilogical strides it took for motion picture. The effects, for the time, were ingenius. To say that Furlong crying ruined the movie...common. The terminator was the closest thing he had to a father and when he lost him, emotions ran high. This will only intensify his feelings towards Terminators in the future. Maybe he will sympothize with them, maybe seeing them will conjure up terrible memories of that fateful night in the steel plant, and he will go nutso. The possibilities are endless. Fulong will be a ticking time bomb ready to go off, his instability will lead to mass distruction. One day he will lose contiousness while shaving, and that will lead to the scar on his cheek. Then, he will have plastic sugery and change his identity. He will now call himself Kyle Reese, and he will go back in time to have sex with his mother. I know it is sick, but it's true. It is the only way he can be his own son. Crazy as it sounds, as Son/Father/Son, they will rule the world, and skynet will not stand a chance.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 7:43 AM
You are one sick puppy.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 9:42 AM
Better yet, I think it would it would be cool to see Furlong have a homosexual love scene with Arnie.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 3:46 PM
of corse no terminator movie will ever be as good as Hudson Hawk, but then again my breasts are beggining to sag!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 20, 2001 9:37 AM
That is cool. He will be his own so, and his own father. Brilliant!
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Posted by Pumpkin Boy (pumpkin_pie_studios@hotmail.com) on June 20, 2001 8:48 PM
Unfortunately, the son-father-son scenario would create a time paradox: a man from the future cannot conceive himself in the past, for he will not exist in the future at all until he has been born in the past. Besides, only half of his DNA would go to the offspring of such a time-warped Oedipus and Jocasta. So the closest he could get would be to impregnate his mother with a half-brother/son or half-sister/daughter.
But, when you boil it all down, I guess it's just a post-modern 'chicken or the egg' kind of argument: no right answer. No wrong answer. No answer, period.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 21, 2001 12:02 AM
Don't you people pay attention? The first movie was ABOUT JOHN CONNOR'S FATHER: Kyle Reece. Maybe no one remembers, but when Terminator hit theatres, the male lead was Michael Bien, NOT Arnie. Only later, after Arnie had made such "masterpieces" as The Running Man and Commando, did Terminator become an 'Arnie movie.'
John Connor's father is Kyle Reece. End of story. (Er...beginning of story. Dang that time-travel business!)
The only good story for T3 would be thus: it's the future. John Connor and his brigade are close to a victory over Skynet, but John knows there's one thing he must do make the victory certain: send his best soldier, Reece (whom John KNOWS is his father) back in time after the T800. (They could even re-cast Michael Bien: maybe the temporal displacement device regresses him somewhat in age...) This story could be action-packed (as the humans battle the machines through Cyberdyne, trying to reach the Skynet mainframe and/or temporal displacement device), as well as touching (John dooming his comrade/father to die, knowing he has no other choice).
But let's face it: ANY Terminator movie made without the involvement of James Cameron (movie god) is a BAD IDEA DOOMED TO FAIL, whether Arnie's in it or not.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 21, 2001 6:23 AM
Hey smart guy, did you even read the above comments? Retard! Please, why don't you write the entire synopsis for T1. We don't know what happened, and who is this Michael Bein? Why don't you stick to what you do best, giving birth to time travellers.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 12, 2002 7:05 PM
hahahahahahahaha. heehehehe
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 22, 2001 1:00 PM
Youre wrong about the male lead being Michael Biehn. He was the co-star. The male lead was Arnold, even though his role was more or less a supporting role. Arnold did get top billing. When Terminator hit theaters in late '84, Arnold was already a star. You cant have possibly forgotten his star making turn in Conan the Barbarian back in '82. That put him on the map. He did another Conan move in summer '84, then the Terminator came out later that year.
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Posted by Pumpkin Boy (pumpkin_pie_studios@hotmail.com) on June 21, 2001 7:28 AM
The comment introducing the son-father-son scenario suggests that in the future the scarfaced John Connor has reconstructive facial surgery, changes his name to Kyle Reece, then goes back in time.... And if Reece is the male lead (which he is NOT, he is merely one of the protagonists) then why did Arnold (the antagonist) get top billing? Huh? And why was the movie called "The Terminator" instead of "Kyle Reece: Time Traveler" or some other pathetic title. And let's not foget that Reece doesn't even destroy the Terminator completely. Linda Hamilton finishes it off in a metal press if you recall correctly.
Reece's only real purpose in the film was procreation of the species, then kicking the proverbial bucket.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 21, 2001 11:06 AM
Hey pumpkin head...are you for real?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 25, 2001 6:16 PM
I just wanted to thank everyone who posted to this story, for making me laugh.
Thank you. :-)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 3, 2001 9:00 AM
But he did the pro-creation of the species thing so very, very well...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 3, 2001 12:43 PM
I beg to differ... There would be no paradox being his own father. Save for the fact that it's just plain GROSS to think about, it should be possible. If you look at it on a linear time line, he pops in around, what was it, 82?
His existance is a solid, concrete fact at that linear point in time, aka his birth on that line. It does not matter is he has yet to be born- he has already established himself as a fact. He then expires, is born and then the moment he travels back in time (mark the line) is the end of his existence/death, and the time line still moves forward. His life is marked, beginning and end. Of course, time is actually an infinite spiraling loop and there can be no paradox in a loop... the DNA thing is a good point, but if his strand is blue/green and his mother's is green/yellow and his half donates blue and her half donates green, then you've got blue/green, identical match-up (am I wrong?)... but the whole point is Kyle Reece was John Connors father, not John Connor. I'm going to have to spend a few days getting that GROSS image out of my head. Michael Beihn was my first movie crush (after that guy in man from snowy river)and I cannot stomach the thought... urgle...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 26, 2001 5:21 PM
hey, good idea there, you should write up a script, and send it in to the terminator writers, you give it to em, you can show 'em up, good luck, remember, I get 10% of your commission (spelling?) as your inspiration agent rgarnerf@home.com :-)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 27, 2001 11:58 AM
I have come to the conclusion that all of you who wrote comments about this future T-3 movie and the T-1/T-2 movies are uneducated childern. Each one of you have fail to grasp the entire PLOT of the T-1/T-2 movies. The movies are about how the human race is destroying it self by saying "Can we do this?", instead of "Should we do this?" With technlogy skyrocketing forward every day, how long untill we see in our future what James Cameron sees. YES I know, it's only a movie. Yet it is also a warning. Take a look back 10 years ago at where technology was and look where it is now. With the .com explosion and a PC in 75% of peoples homes, think about how much computer power is out there. Where do you see technology in the next 10 years? I am not saying we are doomed for a life of battling machines. I am only saying it is not an impossibility. That I feel is what Cameron wanted to leave with us after the movis was over. For the morons, Cameron added all the bells, pretty lights and explosions so you wouldn't get bored. So dust off the VCR and look again. There is more to T-1/T-2 than a crying scene at the end or Dyson's blowing himself up.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 3, 2001 8:14 AM
Absolutely! Read "The Barbie Doll Murders". We cannot stop the snowball effect of technology and T-1/T-2 took that realization and truly worked with it, magnificently. I have to admit, the voice of the kid who played John Connor sometimes sounded like nails of a chalkboard but I forgave him as his character's father was one of the first leads I ever had a crush on (forgivemeIdigress). Just re-watched T-1 on network this weekend and was blown away (no pun) by the message. Anybody ready to ride the dropping bomb because that's where we're heading- the key is to grab the reins and control the landing. Not making much sense, at work, need coffee...
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Posted by Terminator_2099 (pimpdave_99@yahoo.com) on August 13, 2001 1:40 AM
In Universal Studious Hollywood, the have an $850 dollar T-800 endoskeleton arm and the cpu chip just like the one u saw in the movie T2, its an exact replica and its $850.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 12, 2002 7:02 PM
do you like the director?
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Posted by Terminator_2099 (pimpdave_99@yahoo.com) on August 13, 2001 1:36 AM
T2 was the best movie I've ever seen, and I'm hoping Arnold would still be buff like he used to be when he stars in T3, and also, I think that the shapshifting and invisible turning female villian is just too much, why can't Arnold fight another T-800, that would be a fair fight, and Vin Diesel would make one hellava T-800, but he is a little short.
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