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 HOPE CRUSHED, EVIL FUCKING BUSH PREVAILS!
By Wind(up)bird on November 3, 2004 8:55 AM
Its a sad, sad day in America for people who champion reason, diplomacy, the larger global community, intelligence, and a woman's right to choose. The worst, most blantantly arrogant world leader in recent history will continue his reign of "freedom." Your thoughts?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 9:34 AM
Wah! Get over it and talk about movie news.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 10:51 AM
Whiner tools! Nader PWNZ J00!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 11:37 AM
now that the elections are over, maybe you can go back to talking about movies
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Bush won. Nation still DIVIDED.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 1:37 PM
Yes George W. Bush won a 2nd term. Electoral votes: Bush - 279 vs Kerry - 252. The people voted. But the U.S.A. is still divided. In the last 4 years the nation has not gotten stronger or better. The man asks the U.S. for its trust, but in reality there is more distrust in this administration than ever before. Division causes disorder. This president has fractured & divided this nation to a degree never seen before. This man does not deserve the title *PRESIDENT*.
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BUSH CHEATED AGAIN!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 1:50 PM
BUSH SUCKS!!! NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD HE HAVE GOTTEN RE-ELECTED! HE CAN EVEN BATTLE IN A DEBATE WITHOUT LOSING HIS TRAIN OF THOUGHT!!! WHO ARE THE DUMMIES THAT VOTED FOR THIS DUMB GUY??? WELL THOSE DUMMIES SHOULD BE GETTING READY TO BE DRAFTED AND RAPED FOR THEIR MONEY!! BUSH MILLIONS TO BILLIONS A YEAR?? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE. THE AVERAGE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE MAKING $200,000.00 A YEAR??? ASK YOURSELF HOW HE AND HIS PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID. IT MAY NOT BE IN TAXES, BUT IT'S SOME DEFINITE SHADY BIN LADIN WAY!! GO TO HELL BUSH LOVERS!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 4:07 PM
exactly this is the saddest of sad the lowest of lows. You all must now realise as the blacks do. In this society the bad guys do win. And win big indeed.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 4:09 PM
4 more of this....
Hold on to your hard hat more jobs are going over seas
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 4:11 PM
How could you vote for this... In 4 years there might not be an America... Even Bin Laden doesn't sell out his men for a percentage he's a billionare (that we made)
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I'm moving to France
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 4:13 PM
America. You are in serious trouble. After Bush has finished his tour you will have Bin Ladens everywhere. I'm jumping ship. I'll move to France. Good luck.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 5:23 PM
Theres nothing wrong with bush. I am a United States Marine, and as far as i can tell, he is not a bad president. I was in iraq for 2 years, and trust me, what he is doing there is the right thing. I would believe it either if i didnt see it with my own eyes. As far as Binny Boy, its only a matter of a couple of months till we have him.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 6:56 PM
BYE!!!!!
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GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 7:01 PM
Bush was reelected by the largest margin in history... I hardly think he cheated...You leftos need to get over yourselves...Thats whats wrong with you goofs you think no one in America can think for themselves so you have to do it for us.
At least Bush stands for something. As far as I can see John Kerry stood for whatever would get him elected....
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Posted by Skullfire (hulacete@ubbi.com) on November 3, 2004 7:24 PM
Bush won for moral reasons, not economic or political ones. If you read spanish, you will find this article (made before the final count) from a philosopher very interesting: Click
There are two other particular things to notice: the largest percentage in favor of Bush was in Utah, the most religiuos state of the Union. And, how ironic, in Washington, 90% of Bush's neighbours voted for Kerry. ¿Too close for them, maybe?
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Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on November 3, 2004 7:38 PM
i bet bin laden will become president in 5 years or maybe everyone in america will gang bash bush and jump him
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 8:02 PM
youre a fucking idiot. good idea, if you don't like this country, then get the fuck out, bitch
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 3, 2004 8:46 PM
You liberals that run this Web site are the biggest dumbasses!!! Why dont you go stick your head up Michael Moore's ass like you have been doing all year long. Maybe you will disappear and solve this country's problems. You all dont have a goddamn thought in your head that even comes close to resembling an idea that could be useful for this country.
When you start recruiting stupid bitches like Cameron Diaz and Kirsten Dunst (and Leonardo DiCrapio for that matter) to do your talking for you, then you know you are in trouble.
As for the two johns, those two dumbasses are more concerned about doing each other's hair than making the world safer. You left-wingers can go fuck yourselves.
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Respect for this country!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:19 AM
It's amazing how people think...always that the grass is greener on the other side and that the way things are "today" are not as good as they were or should be. It's a tough time and people should support the president no matter who it is. This goes for the military who protect us every day from outside threats and allow people such as those with their pants down to disgrace what this country stands for. Nothing is perfect...but I know that this country is the best and that's why so many people risk their lives to come here and even protect it. I'm just sorry to see the lack of respect for the democratic process. Just because we have freedom of speach doesn't mean we should lose respect for one another or our morals!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:32 AM
The reason why the majority of America voted for Bush is because the majority of Americans are stupid inbred hicks with intelligence as low as Bush himself. Only the people on the East and West coasts have any common sense but their numbers are not great enough to swing the vote.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:34 AM
Largest margin in history!? What the fuck have you been smoking?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:36 AM
Schwarzeneggar will be the next President.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:38 AM
Fuck this! I don't want to look at a couple of frat boys showing their boney, uncomfortably 'brown' asses, are you guys fags?
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I liked their asses...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:46 AM
And I think the point was taken, too... Part of living in America is *supposed* to be free speech, and part of liberty is *supposed* to be the understanding that we *don't* have to support our president, no matter what. We *should* have a right to protest, a right to bash any political figure we want, for any reason we want. It's a principle this country was founded on.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:14 AM
Ewing has returned to congratulate his fearless leader. Congrats Georgey. Now let's get down to that gay monkey sex we all love to participate in.
General: Ewing Army
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:35 AM
Give me a break!!!! This cocksucker will destroy us and sell us out. Fuck all the southern hicks and religious bastards who give us a bad name
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BIN LADEN FULL OF SENSE!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:38 AM
If you read the transcripts of "binny boy's" latest cult video hit you realize he's not crazy, not loonie, and though sure he killed a lot of people (so have we) its not asking too much. He wants the US out of certain countries (why not?). He wants muslims to have sovereignty over their own nations and to given the "freedom" to govern however the want. Don't we want the same thing?
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Yep,BUSH WON - JUSTICE PREVAILS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:42 AM
Yep, Bush won. Us HICKs and religious wackos as we seem to be labeled sat back and watched Kerry/Edwards waffle,flip, flop, stutter and strutt and then you know what...we got up and voted. I am not a hick and I am not a religious wacko. I am a single white mother of one seven year old daughter. I am a believer and I want her to grow up in a country that is safe (as it can be)and is firm in the beliefs that it was founded on. I belive in truth, justice (not only for ourselves but for others), and yes, the American Way. We sit over here in AMERICA where the things we say out loud and in emails such as these cannot even be thought in places like Iraq, China and Cuba. We cannot imagine the fear that these people have lived with most of their lives. Fear for themselves and fear for their children. They now have hope; something some of them have only imagined. Are these people any less worthy then african americans were 200 years ago....600,000 men died to free them...a newly formed USA was split down the middle then...brothers fought brothers...just based on which side of the Mason Dixon line you happened to be on...No war is good but sometimes the ends justify the means. Only time will tell. Meanwhile, Bush is a good, praying man. We are lucky to have someone of his caliber and faith that cares enough about this country to serve it as President.
Oh, and for those that are headed to France or Canada or outerspace...this is still the land of the free....FEEL FREE TO LEAVE and maybe just maybe when you try to come back because maybe a socialistic choice was not the best one...maybe the borders will be closed and you will be OUT OF LUCK!
Ciao! MES
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:48 AM
Americans are funny. The same people who on about about free speech and the land of the free at everyone whine on for four years when some guy you don't like gets elected "he is a moron " "he cheated " "he was wired". GET OVER IT. NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DUMBASS ELECTIONS.
Especially as the result is going to be the same a huge class devide with the rich calling the shots. You republicans are just redneck retards, while the democrates cry like the losers they are. Get a better political system. One that isn't an Oligarchy.
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"We could destroy your country", "America rules", "America matters" etc etc its all tired bullshit.
or even better "You are a fag and I'm going to kill you" is a original one.
Well heres a news flash no your not because your a middle class retard who thinks make a difference to the sad system you call a society.
Your all completly unbalanced you either don't want to use your power to help people because "that would be wrong" or you just want to blow shit up.
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That was Heartfelt and SILLY
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:00 AM
The civil rights movement occured within our borders, not in another country, governed by another religion. Sure everyone deserves better, but by their own hand or by an outsiders' whose interest in a peoples' oil and their country's geo-political location in the world plays a huge part?
WE ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR ANYONE BUT OUR OWN INTERESTS and are IN NO WAY DEFENDING OURSELVES OR FREEDOM. We are colonizing in Iraq, and building a stronger opposition to Palestine and uncontrollable Muslim nations.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:36 AM
I'm with you MES! The people of this country voted, and if some of those out there don't like the results, they always have the option to leave. That's one of the great things about this country.
I voted for Bush, and no, I don't live in the deep south or midwest, I live in the northeast. Some of us educated northerners were smart enough to realize bull#$@% coming from the mouth of lying democrat when we heard it.
Now the best thing for this whole country to do is to stand united behind the president we do have and thank God that our president's name isn't Bin Laden, Hussen or any of the other dictators of this world.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:06 AM
See ya asshole! Oh by the way-the French really do hate ALL Americans. Have fun!
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RE: Bush won. Nation still DIVIDED.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:10 AM
I would really appreciate it if you would come up with something original; not the same droll democratic, partisan rhetoric. Please also add proof of the divided nation.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:19 AM
Oh man...unreal... It actually sounds like you hate America, society, people and the world in general... how depressing....try to have a more positive outlook, I mean it nicely...
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Justice Prevails, for Sad, Scared Fools
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 11:09 AM
Bush didn't lie to you, did he? No. He only tells you the truth, or, if he feels like it, he doesn't. How admirable. You voted for war. Thanks. The parents and spouses of dead soldiers and dead Iraq civilians thank you as well.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 12:14 PM
Did you actually listen to the crap Kerry spewed? Between pushing his parties socialist agenda he was back and forth on every single issue depending on who he was talking to. Bush maybe an ass, but at least he a consistent ass.
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Posted by Loath (loath@dtheatre.com) on November 4, 2004 1:03 PM
Nearly half of America was not voting for Kerry but voting against Bush! Out of 115 million Americans that voted, over 55 million could not bear another four years with Bush, so they voted for an obvious douche who at the very least has a chance of being less evil. Doesn't that seem odd to you? Doesn't that divide America?
If you want stupid, goofy religious men running your country, vote for the Taliban.
On a final note, I leave you with this. Search for the word "issue" (Edit -> Find):
CNN Exit Poll Results
What matters most to from a president? If you said "Terrorism" you are a misinformed victim of propoganda. If you said "Moral Values" you must take into consideration that you are voting for a selfish purpose. Otherwise, you likely voted against Bush.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 1:05 PM
Who's asses are those? THE Dtheatre boys?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 1:12 PM
in response to: "I would really appreciate it if you would come up with something original; not the same droll democratic, partisan rhetoric. Please also add proof of the divided nation." You either have a lifestyle like the unabomber, are a very apathetic human being, or are blind, deaf & mute. There is division everywhere. Watch the news. Read the papers. Pick up a magazine. Get brainwashed by the left or the right. But in the end whose ideals are you listening to.... theirs or your own? Wake up and smell the roses.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 1:48 PM
Only in America could someone like Bush get re-elected. You americans are willfully blind and ignorant.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 2:33 PM
Give me a break.. saying the dead spouses and parents will thank us for dead soldiers/civilians.
I live in this country and I love it. I have more freedom than anyone else in any other country, and I believe I have a strong leader. Hearing you all whine about how Bush is "such a fucking idiot hick" is really tiring.
Are you all such sore losers that you cannot accept defeat? More than 51% of the nation voted for Bush, which means he must be doing something right. You have no right to insult the intelligence of your fellow American's, most of which who voted for Bush and probably played a key role in developing the medications and technology you use in your own homes. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
As far as thanking us for dead soldiers, I only pose one comment for you.
If you're not willing to die for freedom, regardless of how many lives must be sacrificed, get out of the country, you freeloader.
Millions have died for our country, and if required, I'd put my life on the line. You need to seriously reconsider your life.
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Posted by Arnoldismyhero (Arnoldismyhero83@yahoo.com) on November 4, 2004 2:38 PM
You poeple sound like the dumbest mother-fuckers alive, You say bush is dumb? know this, Bush scored higher then Kerry in the military tests they were givin. Bush is a good man and a great president, all you poeple know how to do is whin like a bunch of babies, He is doing a good job, the better man won the election. I am proud that i voted for him. If you hate him, it's proubly because you don't know shit!
You say what you think you know. You poeple are lost!
.......Grow the fuck up!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 2:44 PM
76% of Heinz-Kerry's business is OUTSOURCED.
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Posted by Arnoldismyhero (Arnoldismyhero83@yahoo.com) on November 4, 2004 2:44 PM
By the way, i'd be proud to go to war for my President, I'd be honored to fight for bush and my country, i would be honored to fight for what he believes in. He is right! he has made a mistake, but who does'nt, you poeple are'nt fuckin perfect!
He is a great leader, I'm very proud to follow him as my leader!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 2:45 PM
Check the facts on IQ'S. Particularly Bush Vs Kerry. I think you'll be stupidly surprised.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 2:58 PM
Please, educate me about the country that I grew up in. How did you learn so much about America? On the next election will you Post who the americans should vote for so we don't upset the world with our individual thoughts and votes.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 4:02 PM
Every single one of you fools that have ranted on defending Bush and slamming those that don't share your views have shown yourselves to be utter idiots just with your atrocious spelling alone. You made a massive mistake in re-electing Bush and your narrow minded sectarian views will backfire. John Kerry would have made you proud, instead, you have four more years of shame. May God forgive you if that man kills again.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 4:14 PM
Shutup you stupid ignorant anti-american MIchael Moore suck up.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 4:59 PM
It's pathetic that you can't spell pathetic. You fool! I feel sorry for your descendants. But let us fear not... It's survival of the smartest. And you sir are no match for us. Need a clue? www.getaclue.org
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:03 PM
You are a fool! I'll tell you this. You are a *TOOL*! You are so conditioned, that you will never see the truth for what it is. Find out for yourself. Don't let one MAN (Bush) lead you into the dark. Be your own light.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:05 PM
What a coincedence... 76% of your momma is outsourced too!
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Posted by merrick (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:14 PM
well ive never been to this site, i just came here to look at the episode three trailer, but then i saw this post, i dont know where to begin, i'd say the country's pretty devided myself, or its becoming that way, the liberal's vs the republicans etc etc, or anyone without morals against anyone with them, im for bush, because i think he's the right choice? no not really, i dont think everyone agree's completely with bush, or kerry, every mans done something wrong, i like bush because he upholds moral's, and about war, well whats the objective of war itself, not just this war we're in any war, its simple, the objective is to kill, it isnt pretty but its the truth, the current war, i do support, though i think it should be treated more like a war, i dont believe we'll solve it over there, its even Biblical that we wont (well except for 7 years, but even then it might not be us who brings peace never says who ,just says a covenent/treaty will be made with israel and the other countries for 7 years but halfway, it will be broken) but ofcourse now you know im a "religious weirdo" i'll most likely be ignored, or called something, reguardless, there's my two cents i coulda put more in but i doubt i'll come back here anyway, since boards dont debate, just take shots at each other, oh well bye
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:19 PM
Hi. I'm a good guy. If I'm going down... I'm gonna take as many bad guys with me.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:35 PM
Luckily 24% of my momma is located right here in your momma's cum dumpster.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:41 PM
More people voted in this election than ever before, but:
the Wall Street Journal points out, Bush's victory was "the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916."
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:43 PM
WOW. I must be stupid. I have to believe stats that describe an entire state. AND, I beleive that is a boring web site as there is no where to click to get me somewhere's else
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:43 PM
you vote for someone who avoided war and say he is leader. g w bush is a coward. after 9-11 he hid
on airforce one. I would have flew too the white house and stood defending my home!!!! I listen too real old war heros, the ones that lost friends and
limbs not reserve pusses!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 5:44 PM
http://www.thetruthaboutiraq.com
check it out.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:11 PM
The Democratic party brought the draft up for vote. Look it up. It was 2 democrats. And it only got 2 votes out of 250. HMMMMM. I love a conspiracy!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 6:17 PM
I was in ny during september 11th and thats why I voted Bush. How can you call someone else a pussy though? PRESIDENT Bush set up a plan and we showed the world that we can kick ass. We are defending the homeland. . . anyway, kudos to PRESIDENT Bush who won his 2nd term. So now Teresa Hinez Kerry can "shove it" and Michael Moore and Hollywood and the UGLY protestors and Suck my Vote or wack off. Peace and God Bless America
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:13 PM
A nation split in two. And guess who's got the guns. USA Today
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:27 PM
Look at the hicks.
countymap.htm
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:29 PM
We left Europe for a reason. Thanks for the emphasis.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:32 PM
RRRRUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:36 PM
Nearly half of America was not voting for Kerry but voting against Bush! Out of 115 million Americans that voted, over 55 million could not bear another four years with Bush. Doesn't that divide America?
Yes, be nice and get over it.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:41 PM
Are all the people who voted for Kerry named Michael Moore.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 7:59 PM
hint: red = hick
hick = gun
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:07 PM
I grew up a *TOOL*. But I'll tell you this. When you get older you'll realize if it weren't for America you wouldn't be able think for yourself and ride the spiral to the end and maybe go where no one's been because this is one of the last places in the world you can do that.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:08 PM
Is that an olive branch? Thank you brother.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:22 PM
In the beginning everyone was friends with everyone else. Then someone stole a CD. Others watched as the CD was stolen and said "don't get involved." Or, "it wasn't my CD, who cares!?" But then there were some who said "If one more guy steals my CD's I'm gonna kill somebody, I built my own CD rack so no one would fuck with me and people are coming into my house, acting like my friend, and stealing my CD's!"
Is it stupid to defend what's yours?
Kerry says yes.
Bush says gimme my CD's back bitch!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 8:46 PM
I blame him for swinging the vote. What a perfect time to release a propaganda video. I dont believe Bush cheated... this time around. Anyway, I'm happy as long as there is no draft.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:09 PM
More people voted for President Bush than for any other presidential candidate ....ever....in recorded history...in America. (I think that means he won.)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:44 PM
To put it in lamens terms YOU DIVIDE AMERICA BY WHAT YOU SAY. Why not say "I'm going to wake up tomorrow and the sun will be up with me, no matter who is president."
Get on with our lives people. (and be friendly to others)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:49 PM
Now, USA's citizens feel like Argentines when Menem was president of Argentina. Bush sucks! Bush is to the world as Hitler was. But (Bush obviously) he is American, he is the Police of the World, bla, bla, bla....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 9:51 PM
Yes, I can see you now...A briliant strategist...sneaking into the white house on Air Force 1, in the middle of an air attack...we don't know where the enemy is..but you do, Mr. Pres...You grab your secret pistol from under the dog's belly, stand on the front porch, and YELL "get out of my yard you so and so's!!!!!!
HEY, would you have not gone to Dallas if you were Kennedy?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:45 PM
U GUY R FUCKING BUMB ASSES BUSH ALL THE WAY HOW COULD ANY 1 PREFERE KERRY OVER BUSH UR ALL DUMB ASSES
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:47 PM
ANY 1 WHO DIDNT VOTE 4 BUSH IS A DUMD ASS PERIOD KERRY IS THE BIGGEST LIER AND HIPOCRATE AND NON CRISTAIN EVER 2 HAVE RUN 4 PRES.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:48 PM
bush diserves 2 b our president kerry didnt get over it
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:51 PM
democrates deserve 2 go 2 hell 4 voting 4 kerry if he were elected america would b in ruin
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:53 PM
You do understand the meaning of the word volunteer right? Because that's what all soldiers in this country do. Knowing full well that they could be called upon to protect freedom anywhere in this world. Stop being so selfish. Those dead soldiers weren't when they chose to join the service. Oh yeah, I am in the military also.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:53 PM
Bush did not cheat u dumb ass the people voted 4 him and he won do u no y most people voted 4 his because he diserved 2 win kerry did not so forget about it dumb shit democrates
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 10:58 PM
Hey u no what america is free and if u dont lik it here leave we dont care we will accually b happy that there r less democrates the word free means the freedom 2 leave if u dont lik it here leave u will do us a favor
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 11:03 PM
hey bush won u fucking ass holes get use 2 it most people voted 4 him so he diserved 2 win and also if u dont lik it here get the fuck out and do us a favor jack asses or n other word the donkey which stands 4 the democrates
democrates mascote=donkey aka jack ass
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2004 11:06 PM
BUSH WON O YEA PARTY AT MY HOUSE GO BUSH I LOVE HELL YEA IT MY B-DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK U KERRY FANS!!
^l^^ thats my middle finger 2 democrates
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:10 AM
I'm with you, lets go to France, what airport should we meet at? I'm ready when you are! :)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:17 AM
It just doesn't go into depth, that doesn't make it boring. What do you want, some color on the page, just accept the fact that you're an idiot with a low IQ who voted for another idiot with a low IQ.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:19 AM
Well, I know a few United States Marine's myself, they each beg to differ and they each beg to get the hell back home too. Bush is fucking you up, and most of you are in denial.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:21 AM
We do not hate Americans.
I'm French and I am dating an American girl. Some of us really do hate Bush, but we don't loathe the people in particular. It all depends really.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:22 AM
was it bong or coke?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:25 AM
Shut your "moral conservative" shit and stick it up your country ass. Liberals are better, our views are expanded and open minded. I don't mind if gay people want to marry, women should have the right to choice, John Kerry, well, damn the man should've won.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:26 AM
did you make that up? neat.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:39 AM
dickhead
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:44 AM
America is in ruin, thanks to the lying bush regime and when america sees the truth now that election is over they will realize they f--ked up
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:00 AM
You will see in the end that bush regime are lying to the american people. The old wolves in sheeps clothing
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:04 AM
talk ABOUT A LINE OF SHIT
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:08 AM
YES VIET NAM WAS A NICE "CONFLICT" ALSO
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:11 AM
I R GOOD SPELLER TO
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:17 AM
amen brother
At least Mr. Kerry was willing to go to war for this country, not like bush who hid in America like the man he is
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:27 AM
yea dildo!
That is why we ran to the oil in Iraq instead of running to afganistan to get Bin ladin
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:35 AM
Pack your bags son. That will be the first lie revealed to the bush supporters, but with the little bush spin on it you will swallow it. Just like a deer in the headlights of a car
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 5:43 AM
75% of Kerry voters are society's bottom feeders. Urban ghetto monsters that can barely qualify as human beings they are so low on the food chain. The other 25% are snobby coastal elitists and half educated dimwits who only think they are intelligent. You lefties should just face facts. Conservatives are better than you in every way possible. We are more intelligent, we dominate government at every level and nearly everywhere in America and we are physically superior as well. With my military training as a Marine as well as all the training I have in my current capacity keeping American safe, I would venture to say that there's not a liberal alive that could physically best me ever! All that would be left would be a puddle of blood and half digested tofu with a pair of Birkenstocks. Get over yourselves and the election. You are the ignorant ones and, BUSH WON! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:16 AM
I don't mind who you Americans voted for its your choice as a democracy however could all the Americans on this site stop refering to the US as somesort of home of Freedom as if it was the only place free speech was allowed.
To begin with the civil rights movement was in the 60's!. By this point ALL other countries in the western world had already allowed black people equal rights.
And just so you realise other countries which have democracies include
Britain
Ireland
France
Germany
Spain
Iceland
Norway
Netherlands
Denmark
Finland
Malaysia
India
Australia
Sweden
New Zealand
Japan
Russia
Czech Republic
Austris
Portugal
Italy
Belgium
Luxembourg
Greece
Canada
Greenland
Malawi
South Africa
Singapore
South Korea
Turkey
YOUr NOT THE ONLY ONES.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:52 AM
c'mon guys bush is an ass hole!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:53 AM
fuck you man bush rools!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:53 AM
realy!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:54 AM
yeah! heed kik your ass u tit!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:55 AM
i'm brithish and if i could be arsed to vote id kik blair out and stick a friggin monkey in then the whole world would be a better place. bush and monkey! hey they could swap countrys for a day and no one would be able to tell the difference!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:59 AM
oh yeah bush suck (cock that is!)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:59 AM
oh yeah bush suck (cock that is!)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 8:35 AM
bush rocks deal with it or move to europe! That way you don't have to deal with the way America has become America!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 10:03 AM
Bush did not divide a nation, people like Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore and so on divide a nation with sensational claims that only those with no foresight and concern for the well-being of our children are willing to embrace. Kerry = Socialism
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 10:23 AM
Sorry to disappoint you but the soldiers who died, died for you and all the others in America. They knew when they joined that there was always the possibility the would be sent to war, and die. They did so willingly. So when people talk about their children shouldn't have died, and it is a sad thing that happens, maybe they should have been open enough to discuss that possibility with their children BEFORE they signed up. There is no draft, therefore not mandatory. And as far as Bush lying to this country, I don't think so. He has admited to his faults and stood by his decisions whether you think they were good or bad and as Americans, we have a duty to stand behind him, no matter what your opinion is.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 10:33 AM
Kerry go to war for this country???? Yeah right... never happen. He thinks that we should just roll over and play dead, like some dog and let the dictators of this world walk all over us and take what should be one of the most precious things to us, our freedom.
Will I play dead? Hell no.
Will I follow a president who stands up to evil and refuses to let someone take our freedome? Hell yes!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:31 PM
Dont foreget about Walter Mondale.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:36 PM
That's the joy of America. I dont have to like it to live here. I can even burn the falg and still live here. The beauty of Freedom.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 12:40 PM
Yes but we are the only one with two parties. Is that really democracy?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:14 PM
It's just a god damned CD. If I got 1,000's of CD's laying around & someone takes one or two. I'm not gonna bomb his house, interrogate his family, kill his dog, slap his grandma around a bit. I think I'd go to the authorities first & get help from them -- instead of going in half cocked and unbalanced. Plus, who else might have taken my CD's?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:18 PM
I think there are more people in the U.S. in 2004 than there were in the past years. More people = more votes.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:40 PM
I voted for Kerry and I have no reason to hide that but honestly...did it really matter? Neither of these guys can snap thier fingers and just make Iraq go away or September 11th not happen. Bush didn't make September 11th happen and Kerry can't clean up the mess. There will always be conflict people. NO ONE MAN can fix that. Also, I'm so glad all us americans have leanred to get along....hey, anyone remember the civil war?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:48 PM
geez.. this guy is a perfect example of why the rest the of the world loves bush... asshole... When a terrorist blows your ass up don't cry to the rest of the world you ignore
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:50 PM
YAAAAAAA!!! The world hates my country but I don't care!!! I have video games, and my left hand!!! Yaaaaa! My education system sucks but we got guns!! ya!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 1:57 PM
Way to go Marine! Why I bet you can suck a golf ball threw a garden hose! I bet if Bush threw his dick out, you'd be on it like a fly on shit! Stupid Americans... Wake Up! The rest of the World Hates you! Do I need to draw you pictures!? Probably!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:02 PM
Don't stress yourself out trying to work a lighter! I know lots of people in other country's who will burn your flag for you!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:06 PM
If anybody should have been aborted it is you. You stupid liberal fuck. I have nothing against John Kerry, I just think he is wrong on a lot of issues.
I didnt see anything "moral conservative" about my message, asshole. So much for open mindeness, you stereotypical fuck. I personally dont care what gay people do. You are the typical example of why the country sees liberals as dumbasses. They think that there is only one point of view.
You automatically think that the only people that voted for Bush are moral conservatives. There are other reasons dickhead.
Go fuck yourself, you liberal slob!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:07 PM
"All I ever need to know I learn from FOX T.V."
You fag! The most Democrates ever voted in this elecation too! I don't even live in your bullshit country, and I know that... Uh-Oh.. better go watch FOX!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:15 PM
hey cocksmoker, when has there not been one half of the nation vote one way, and the other half another? Know your facts before you start spouting your anit-bush bullshit that your liberal tree-humping mom told you. And about your genious "This president has fractured & divided this nation to a degree never seen before.", perhaps you dont remember from your 2 cent education but there was a little thing called the CIVIL WAR, which i would say divided the country more...or were you not able to learn that with your welfare bought education...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:16 PM
Ya Sure! Bush didn't lye about a thing!!! he's a great guy! Fuck! Why don't I have him over for dinner, maybe I can suck his balls too! Fuck thats a great idea! Come on all you Republican Cocksuckers! Let's have a party at Uncle Jubya's house!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:19 PM
You must be from Texas! Holy Dogshit! Only steers and queers come from Texas!!! Do me a favor and don't protect my Counrty... Fuck, your probably in the dish pit! you get trained with socks full of soap?!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 2:23 PM
"I have more freedom than anyone else in any other country"
Ha! Ya sure! I can go into Middle Eastern Countries and not get stoned to death! Why don't you take a trip!
I have more freedom - BULLSHIT!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 3:49 PM
Is this the same america where some fella got kicked out of a mall for wearing a tee-shirt with a peace sign on it? so much for your freedom.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 4:04 PM
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 4:26 PM
Hey dickweeds who said that we are 'pussy liberals' and whiny what-not, and told us to stop posting on this page and go back to movie news. Guess what? I'm more free to say whatever I want on the internet than anywhere else, and it's up to the webmaster to decide, WHO incidentally posted the "Bush got re-elected" article, so if you don't like it, take your own advice (The advice about leaving America if you don't like it) and get the hell off this website!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 5:06 PM
let me guess you typed this while sitting on your fat chip eatin ass.. As someone who was there, IN IRAQ I can say WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING... The game is over kids were there... now its time to STFU and help out. Stop yer bitchin... UNTILL YOU GO AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE SITUATAION... THEN YOU CAN DECIDE TO BITCH.. Get off your moms couch, Drop the X box, fat ass, drop the taco bell that you gobble up as you mouth off about your country... because YOUR COUNTRY GIVES YOU THAT RIGHT...You can go live in a dirt floor house in IRAQ, have almost no food to live on and watch as your children are taken away by Sadams secret police to feed Udays sick twisted fantasy... then OPEN THAT fat mouth and bitch... TILL THAT DAY STFU.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:06 PM
it is always the same with you republican supporters. All you speak of are abortion and morals. well bush is the biggest liar that has ever graced the white house and you can still get an abortion just like you could 4 years ago. i wonder how many or you lost your job or know someone who did on this mans watch?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:11 PM
it is painfully obvious that none of you posting here have a job or a clue about what the word democrat means. there is only one truth and that is republican=death to the manufacturing might and the middle class that built this country.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:20 PM
using language like cocksmoker and those other highly intelligent words make me wonder about your education. It is just amazing that anyone that has lived in the last 4 years can have any faith whatsoever in the deceit of the Bush administration. And you call democrats liberal well how about the conservative spending in the last 4 years only wasted all the surplus and created the largest debt in american history.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:27 PM
I would like to think a highly trained Marine such as yourself could find a better choice of words than bottom feeder. As far as your superiority issues, well let me tell you this, you are nothing without God.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:34 PM
Is that what you people want...socialism?? Or to live under an Islamofacist boot? Grow up or leave the country...or die. Thank God for Bush!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:37 PM
Oh yah, to you libs, everything is Bush's fault. Get some morals, balls, educated, and a life.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 6:41 PM
Do you actually know anything about Hitler and the Nazis or do you like to talk out of your ass? History: read it, learn it and and get informed...moron.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 7:35 PM
You should really get off of yourself. You're probably some egotistical ass hole with a red neck like attitude. People like you are ignorant. People like you voted for Bush. Conservatives are no better. God is your total "savior" (funny), and you should totally stray away from thinking like you are people in the Middle Ages. Damn, what is wrong with you crap excuses for morality? You're far from it.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 7:52 PM
what (fucking) ever. Suck Bush's hairy balls, then talk about how great he is. fuck god, you people and your great "god", just shut up with it already.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2004 10:10 PM
You're a f***ing idiot.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 12:17 AM
Lets stray from the mountains of lame "american pie" style insults and back to some "food for though".
The post September America went from "hunting down Al-Qaeda (sp?)" to "invading iraq to find Al-Qaeda camps etc" to "invading iraq to remove a WMD threat" to "liberating a country and securing freedom".
From an objective P.O.V., as much as can be, this is a stretch.
Since when are the WMD's in Iraq more dangerous than WMD's in Communist China, Comunist North Korea?
Since when are the people in Iraq needing freedom and a release from human rights abuses more so that other countries? Like Zimbabwe, North Korea and China (again), Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc.
The same Hussein was assisted by the US in the form of weapons etc. On TV!
The US has supported non-democratic regimes. The US is currently supporting a non democratic regime in Saudi Arabia, in the form of $20 billion foreign aid? What the? A known non-democratic state, that suppresses free speech, womens rights etc etc.
Why was IRAQ more of a threat to world peace than, say, North Korea?Or other "active" terrorist states like Syria, Iran, South East Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudia Arabia?
Or other non-democratic countries like Zimbabwe (have half of you heard about the atrocities that Pres' Mugabe has committed?
Some might say, look at what Iraq has than the other countries don't.
Food for thought.
And all without dropping to the level of a adolescent bully, a level where no one can honestly give you any credit.
Thanks for reading.
Alistair
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 12:39 AM
Ummmmm this is a very uninteresting subject and all but how about we get back to the reason I come to this site............movies. If you don't live in the US you can whine and complain all you want, they get to decide who they want for President, whether who they decide is what you like or not it simply doesn't matter. Your opinions will go down in history as rhetoric just like most others with the same.........So how about those movies?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 12:39 AM
Setting aside your lack of grammar or a pertinent thought process, the President doesn't get the choice of going where he wants. The Secret Service has a specific protocol to follow to ensure the safety of the government's leadership structure, which does not entail allowing the President or Vice President to charge on the tip of the sword into battle. So, try again but with some intellgence (I'll bet you live in a blue state don't you)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 1:00 AM
If you have read the thread this isn't about movies? If you would "like to know more" then click on a movie related thread.
It's that simple!
Go "freedom of choice"!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 1:54 AM
"Thats whats wrong with you goofs you think no one in America can think for themselves "
You're right, Include yourself in that too. I think most people simply chose the evil they know over the evil they don't. America has forgot that our system *is not a 2 party system* All of you need to open your eyes. I didn't elect Bush, and I didn't vote for Kerry either. I voted for Micheal Badnarik. Does anyone who voted here even know who that is or what party he ran with? Did you even see his name on the ballot? Or were you so busy seeing Democrat and Republican that you were blinded to anything else. IF you sheep would do some research, and use your heads for something other than to hold your hair up, maybe this election could have been a turning point for our country. Maybe, just maybe, the next election could be a turning point. This country was founded on freedom of religion. Bush is turning this country into a fascist Christian regime. He's turning people of this country against each other based on religious beliefs. And now because of all the sheep who can only see the 2 main parties, he will continue to do so for four years. Some of you may like the idea of a Christian regime. Good for you. Go buy an island and make your own government. This is America. We've made too much progress over the last 100 years, and if it keeps up the way it is, it's going to degenerate and fall apart before our eyes. Attention sheep! Think for yourselves. Look and see what the other parties stand for. You may just find one that more closely matches what you see for our future.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 2:27 AM
Yeah and 5 out of the 30 on that list are partly or fully under the control of England. If they were truly democracies, they would all be under their own power. So what kind of freedom is that, that you are bragging about? We decided we didn't want to be The United States of New Brittain.. oh a bit over 200 years ago. Stuff it on that subject wanker. Oh and lest I forget, the "free" citizens of most of those countries are not allowed to own a gun, so the crime rates are ridiculous.. Oh please Mr. Criminal who doesn't care about the gun ban sir, don't shoot me, just let me get my butter knife to defend my home and family... You are so full of it. We don't think we are the only country with full freedoms. We KNOW it.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 5:22 AM
"Yeah and 5 out of the 30 on that list are partly or fully under the control of England."
Which ones retard boy.
You really don't have aclue about anything outside America do you?
Lets have a look at the obvious ones your going to consider.
Ireland. No they are quite Independant (the Republic of Ireland remember?)
Canada because its in the Commonwealth yeah well the Commonwealth doesn't do anything these days really so once again your wrong.
And as for your personal freedoms to own guns and thus high crime rates well your wrobg first people can own guns in Britain but there heavily liscenced.
Hand guns are banned and lets see oh yes we have one of the lowest gun crime rates in the world behind other countries who have banned guns, what a surprise no guns legally means few shootings who would have thought it....
Heard of Dunblane, some twat shot a load of kids in a school in England and since then hand guns have been banned has it happened since. No.
While in America.... well lets say you don't catch on quick do you.
If you rally think you are the ONLY country to have true freedom then your more paranoid than Bush, who at least talks about the free world.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 5:38 AM
Oh one more thing loser boy who lives in a country who has sooo much freedom what age can you have a nice cool beer after a hard days work oh whats that 21. Oh yes very free the old bying a gun before you can have an alcholic beverage. No wonder the Americans at my UNI can't handle there drink or should I call it alcholic piss (Budwiser what a joke)
I was in NY over the summer and all the kids were in the park unable to have a cool one but don't worry the friendly drug dealers were there to help. Thats right its official its easier to get cocaine or marajuna than it is to go into a bar and get a beer.
Land of the Free my arse.
Please don't tell me the voting age is 21 as well that would just take the piss.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 8:28 AM
you should really try to have yourown opinions instead of spewing demo trash. Bush is the biggest liar?...How about....I skoked but didnt inhale.....ha bullshit, and .....I never had sex with that women....ha blowjob....and ....I never sold nuclear info to N. Korea...ha they got nucs now....this was all quoted from Bill Clinton...the Best President the demos have ever had, and he was a dope smoking, wife cheating, secret selling LIAR....
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RE: Bush won. Nation still DIVIDED.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 8:50 AM
oh contrair....bush didnt divide the country....you can thank NBC CBS ABC mike mooore, hollywood, UMited nations idiots, John Kerry and John Edwards for all the divide...just cause your on the wrong side of it dosent make you right....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 8:54 AM
let me remind you of 9.11 This one event did more economical damage to our country than any other time...I dont like the fact that we lost jobs and money...but bush didnt take the towers down...Our anger in this issue might best be directed against terrorist...dont you agree?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:02 AM
Kiss my cajun ass! The blacks need to shut the fuck up...My ancestors were chased from all their homes and land because they made a stand...then they were hunted to death as canada gave money for killing them...so we came all the way to Louisisana to escape death and jail.....and we have enough self pride and worth to take it and go on. You dont hear us whining about howbad we had it.
Buck up or shut up...do something + about it...but pleeeeeeease stop blaming all the white people for all your failures
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:10 AM
I have moving company connections and all of you cry baby dems who want to got to France...I have a discount rate for you. America will be happier and better without you. As for the Democrats who voted for Kerry but accept Bush as Pres and are willing to Keep the promise they made to serve the people...we would love you input...you are important to this contry..Disagreement is to be expected and welcomed...but these personal attcks and hatred by a few only go to prove they do not this country in their best interest.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:18 AM
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 10:03 AM
about Nazis..considering they took them in after WW2.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 10:07 AM
This president has lied more than any president in prior history. Yes, CLinton did lie about getting a blowjob, but that's better than lying about Weapons of mass Destruction and sending thousands of innocent americans to their deaths in a war that is really all about the $$$. FUck BUSH! He's an Idiot who doesn't know how to talk, or probably read, like most hicks....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 10:46 AM
If america sucks so bad..then why are all the immagrants dying to get here....you dont see people dying to get into france
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 10:52 AM
amen on arnold for pres in 2008...hes gonna wip the liberal shit out of hillary
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 12:42 PM
I'm French too. And all the my french friends love sucking american cocks, there the best.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 12:51 PM
By all Blind Hate against bush, Bin Laden probably could have won this election if he ran against bush.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 1:06 PM
...umm B.) America Rules, You Pansy Sell-out pretending to be a foreigner. Let me guess your reply
A.) I really not an american honestly
B.) Sorry, i'm a habitual liar, and i use my fake accent to get chicks.
B.) Sorry, i was high at the time and didnt know what I was typing.
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Why don't we like Bush?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 3:08 PM
1 He didn't even get elected the first time round. His Daddy got him the job. (Hence Gore's reaction for recounts.)
2 Sending kids to war. Haven't we learnt our lesson??? Obviously not! Whatever happened to good 'ol assassination? Anyone? Could've saved a lot of fucking trouble.
3 His immediate (sic) reaction to the 9/11 attacks. (Come on, the guy who is running the world is waiting for someone to tell him what to do? Can we say Fool?
4 Being a politician. Since the first ever politician (Machievelli, Italy) their motto has been 'the end justifies the means.' So why don't we scrap this bullshit and commence a new administration. Let our age be remembered as taking us into the future. (Look at Court trails for example. If eveidence is provided proving someone guilty but it isn't put forward in a sense to let the deffence come back with another arguement, it is dismissed. I know we can all say Bullshit, let's say it together shall we?
Oh yeah, and the first thing bush did when he got ellected was take a holiday. I wish someone would drive a plane into him. His admin has more holes than an afgan.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 4:06 PM
and what would your IQ be genius
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 5:25 PM
The difference being what Clinton did or didn't do was in his personal life...
What Bush is doing or has done is affecting OTHERS lives...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 5:27 PM
Considering my grandfather was a Nazi and a lot of his friends had been as well... The US took all of them in. So Argentina wasn't the only place where former Nazis were relocated to...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 5:30 PM
51% for Bush
48% for Kerry...
I'd say that's division...
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Posted by Skullfire (hulacete@ubbi.com) on November 6, 2004 6:45 PM
I bet Al-Qaeda will attack on 11/9, just to be ironic. And probably one of the strikes could be in Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:06 PM
"Conservatives are better than you in every way possible."
Ah yes wise wor...
Well except for this: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
I'm a fiscal conservative, and I can't believe that people don't see the harm in the giant deficits that are being created year after year in the US. Wake up people; someone is going to have to pay for it.
Also, I don't understand why people throw around the terms "liberal" and "conservative" to define the two political parties. If people actually bothered to go look up the economic plan that Kerry had in mind one will see that it was pretty conservative, but alas I don’t think enough people in the US actually care about politics to read up on them.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:08 PM
Sometimes, there are things more important than movies, saddly I don't think enough of the US has a good grasp on this yet.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:11 PM
I grow tired of people citing anti-Bush = anti-American. Maybe they just don't want to see the US suffer under the weight of its own debt, like it will if we continue to spend these giant deficits. The "well its 9/11's fault!" will only work for so long until you actually research what these deficits are being spent on, and find that 9/11's economic impact continues to diminish with each passing year as our debt continues to spiral out of control.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:13 PM
"2 Sending kids to war. Haven't we learnt our lesson??? Obviously not! Whatever happened to good 'ol assassination? Anyone? Could've saved a lot of fucking trouble."
You misunderstand a lot of Americans (as I did living here, until you hear some reactions to the Iraq war), as long as its someone else's kids... they don't care as much as people would hope they do.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:16 PM
Irony too... thick...
Living proof that our school system is in more trouble than we feared.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:18 PM
"AND NON CRISTAIN EVER 2 HAVE RUN 4 PRES"
Wow, you misspelled your own religion... I'm impressed. Anyway, since when was the separation of church and state not a good thing?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:20 PM
"Get some morals, balls, educated, and a life."
From looking at your sentence, it looks like someone else is in need of getting some "educated"...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:22 PM
^lol
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:24 PM
"AND, I beleive that is a boring web site as there is no where to click to get me somewhere's else"
Don't blame us that you have a short attention span...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:32 PM
"...Americans, we have a duty to stand behind him, no matter what your opinion is."
You heard it here first, kids. The first part of democracy is to not raise a complaint against elected officials when something displeases you. Just because they are elected by the people, doesn’t mean they have to care what they think. Hell otherwise that might be… what’s the word I’m looking for… democratic?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:36 PM
" Way to go Marine! Why I bet you can suck a golf ball threw a garden hose! I bet if Bush threw his dick out, you'd be on it like a fly on shit!"
lol!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:37 PM
"As far as Binny Boy, its only a matter of a couple of months till we have him."
Can we hold you to that? As I have seen NOTHING that would imply that, that is going to happen in the near future.
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RE: Yep,BUSH WON - JUSTICE PREVAILS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:46 PM
"Are these people any less worthy then african americans were 200 years ago..."
Why don't you ask the homosexuals in your own country, who Bush is trying to stop from wedding one another, before you look at another.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:48 PM
" More people voted for President Bush than for any other presidential candidate ....ever....in recorded history...in America. (I think that means he won.)"
Guess who got the second most in history? That's right, Kerry. Ah, gotta love number spinning.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:51 PM
"Bush did not cheat u dumb ass the people voted 4 him and he won do u no y most people voted 4 his because he diserved 2 win"
Actually, I think it's beacuse a largin portion of the United States has a education which is about equal to yours, looking at that sentence you could hardly construct. Go US!
...dark times indeed.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 7:56 PM
"Please, educate me about the country that I grew up in. How did you learn so much about America?"
Probably beacuse they know more about politics than the average American, saddly.
I would also imagine that more people understand what our debt will do if it continues to grow (like it is), who owns it, and how its tied to the global market than Americans themselves, again saddly.
More people in this country need to consider looking into politics, or if they are interested enough to major in a field related to them, so they can make more educated choices.
The fact that many people voted for Bush on the platform of "Morals" while saying that Kerry had a "better economic plan" scares me. What's more important right now? We don't have surplus to spend anymore, people.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 8:01 PM
"fuck you man bush rools!"
Rools? Rolls maybe? Sounds like an idea for a flash video to me.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:13 PM
who knows maybe he did have a part in 9-11
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:18 PM
Bush regime has people in India do america's tax returns for the internal revenue service
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:22 PM
It amazes me that so- called educated people could spew such trash. And it comes from both directions,"liberal and conservative" alike. Until you have read 2 or 3 newspapers a day, and the Wall Street Journal should be one of them; watched the news (you should rotate and even listen to FOX); and then catch what's being said on various talk radio stations; you haven't educated yourself enough to even open your mouth and talk. Much less give your opinion on world affairs. You shouldn't spew out everything that your red neck buddy happened to say last night, and you shouldn't believe trash that people like Michael Moore try to pass off as truth. This is the condition of the people of this great nation. Everyone has fogotten how to think for themselves and (HOLD ON) then exercise wisdom and discernment over the matters that concern their little lives. We get all fired up about what we heard so-and-so say, and then charge off on a crusade to "do the right thing".
It would make me happy to imagine all these people waking up and being suddenly endowed with a dose of common sense, but somehow I don't see that happening. So try this for a first step. Talk less and listen more.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:26 PM
you must be one of those little boys that joined the marines to make you feel like a man. you can tell by the way you talk that you must be a butt pirate.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 9:39 PM
freedom used to mean we had a right to beleive and speak as we wish. But there are to many arrogant dildo's like you who don't have a clue of what freedom means. Bush seems to have a lot of the same beliefs as Hitler and is leading us into the same end.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 6, 2004 11:14 PM
America deepens its divide. They rule! They rule the world! Just like the romans! Just like the Phoenicians! Just like the Egyptians! Just like the germans! Just like the Inca! Just like nepolean and the turks! Just like the ancient greeks! And looks where all those magnificent cultures are now. Dead. Forever. Forgotten. History. Lets all support and welcome the USA to this prestigious affiliation! I can't wait.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 7:04 AM
Oh, and by the way. Thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Clinton we will have people dying from the flu. Hillary had to push to have a cap put on the cost of flu shots which eliminated the american drug companies profit or chance for profit in the future. So what happens? It gets farmed out overseas where quality issues are obviously a problem. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Clinton! I hope every death weighs heavily on you.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 8:00 AM
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 8:35 AM
Probably not too many would want to move to France, but apparently they are still wanting to get out of America...
There are many other choices out there.
http://tinyurl.com/6m8wm
"The number of U.S. citizens visiting Canada's main immigration Web site has shot up six-fold as Americans flirt with the idea of abandoning their homeland after President Bush's election win this week."
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 9:18 AM
"More than 51% of the nation voted for Bush, which means he must be doing something right."
Not necessarily. When former Prime Minister Chretien first got in here in Canada, he won by a landslide. The main opposing party was decimated. But did that happen because he was so great a choice? No. It was because everyone hated former Prime Minister Brian Mulrooney. Worse yet, Mulrooney stepped down and wasn't even running against Chretien. Chretien won because Canadian voters wanted to make a point.
I'm not sure if that point was "We hate Brian Mulrooney", or if it was simply to prove we could be stupid too.
The point I am trying to make is, some of the people who voted for Bush just didn't want to vote for Kerry.
Alternatively, some people who voted for Kerry probably just didn't want to vote for Bush.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 11:53 AM
He has given a terrible face to a great nation. There are plenty of good people in this country that dont want that face to represent us but we have a bunch of other people in this country that dont know what is really going on. They have bought Bush's fear tactics and cant see through the smoke and mirrors. We needed a change of face, something new a fresh start. Kerry might not have been the best choice to lead this country but Bush is a tired old man that has no right running the best country in the world. We need to help ourselves before we can save the world. Face our own fears and not the worrys of the Jews. We have to remove ourselves from teh middleeast situation. We will always be at risk of attack, it has been like that for the history of our country. We need a change. Not this crap for 4 more years. I've been down this road before.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 12:40 PM
Nobody died when Clinton lied.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2004 12:49 PM
I think you should try getting your facts from somewhere other than Fox News.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 8:39 AM
If you don't want to stand behind your leader, then leave. Nobody is stopping you. Nobody ever said you had to agree with him 100%.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 9:19 AM
you know.... I would rather live believing there is a God and die to find there isn't than I would to live believing there isn't a God and die to find out there is. How sorry will you be for your disrespect of God if that happens?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 4:02 PM
Except the 4 Sailors on the USS Cole, and all the people in the Wolrd Trade Center (Which would not have happened if Clinton, Kerry, and Kennedy hadnt cashed out the Intelligence agency for a "Peace Dividend"
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 5:01 PM
Exactly, I couldn't agree more w/you. I'm an American, like many of my friends and family, I oppose the Bush admin. I think they're full of conservative republican, lies and more lies. I didn't want four more years of the same bull shit, unfortunately the pro-lifers and homophobic assholes did. They
wanted this man to run for their personal benefits regarding religion (i.e, Christianity). 80% of the voters on Nov. 2, decided their candidate choice with
depending on "moral" values. Plenty of southern people. The cities in America like my own knew what we were talking. It's suburbia that should definitely wake the hell up. I'm done with my rant, but I do agree with you. May these four years pass quickly and safely.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 6:29 PM
OH YEAH WHY NOT!!! I AM MOVING TO JAPAN TO HELL WITH BUSH
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 6:31 PM
WELL KERRY IS GOOD BETTER THAN BUSH JACKASS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 6:33 PM
WHY THE FUCK STUPID PEOPLE VOTE FOR BUSH FOR FOUR MORE FUCKING HELL YEARS
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 9:53 PM
1. Bush/Rumsfeld knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9.11 and did not care. The administration chose to launch an agressive war against a non-enemy.
2. The US initially needed 90 billion in Iraq. That was over a year ago, who knows how much bush has spent now.
3. NPR reported today that victims of 9.11 have received a total of about 30 billion. This includes insurance of businesses such as the owners of the twin towers. The cost of the war is 3x the cost of the damage caused by (not Iraq) bin Ladin.
4. 3500 died in 9.11. 1500 US troops are dead in Iraq now. Afganistan? Anyone want to guess the date when the USA loses double, when 3500 have died in Iraq?
Bush goes to show that religion is in and of itself an evil thing. Christian / Muslim / Satanist / Child Molester / Whatever. Before you attack Bush, think of who re-elected him (followers of Christ) and what he represents and instead think how you have to fight those who have "religion". For you religious voters, please see any book by Plato as to how good moral values have nothing to do with your particular religious fetish.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 9, 2004 4:44 AM
Shut up and talk about Star Wars.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 9, 2004 9:44 AM
Indeed and of course a non religious society such as Nazi Germany or Communist Russia worked so well.
Attacking religion is old, any ideology is good or evil in how it is applied.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 9, 2004 8:52 PM
Nice to see the "faithful" are more concerned with a denuciation of religion than with the statistics I mentioned about Bush's blunders that are costing lives now. This just reinforces the point that preoccupation with religion creates an evil effect. By this I mean that taken as whole, religion has and does create more evil than good.
For the record, Nazi Germany's leadership was extremely religious. Virtually all of the high command were church-going protestants. See, their problem was that Jews killed Jesus. Again religion. Of course, it did not help that the Pope shipped train loads of Jews from Italy to Germany.
And attcking religion is not "old". Your relativism as to ideologies is sad. Find anyone who will agree with your implied assertion that Communist ideology was just applied incorrectly. Some ideologies are just not good.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 2:54 AM
Bush is not popular around the world, but he's like a very effective schoolmaster: None of the students liked him, but he kept things in order! Face it, without Bush's aggressive actions, terrorists would be wreaking havoc worldwide, way way more than the little things we are seeing now. Terrorists are like beasts - they will attack you if they sense any weakness or hesitation.
N. Korea and Iran are much tougher nuts to crack than Iraq, so you knock out the easy target first; It is common strategy in chess and almost every thing in life, so no need to fret about why Iraq and not N.Korea. We'll take care of them later.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 5:06 AM
Nazi Germany used religion to there own ends as oppposed to religion creating Nazi Germany. Most of German high command was in to all sorts of strangness (occult genetic dominance theories etc etc) that singling one aspect of their twisted minds is wholly unproductive and misinformative.
My point about ideologies was that you can only ever look at there ideals not there application, thus most religions are good as they esspouse ideas that are for the benifit of society.
Your point that religion is evil looks only at extreme circumstances. You might as well say democracy is evil because of the crime within its society, or that teachers are evil because some teachers are child molesters.
Religion has done more good than evil, I guess all those orphanages, alms for the poor, comfort for the bereaved and hospitals were for nothing then, not to mention the art music which enriches our culture, the idea that you should help your fellow man etc etc.
The reason you see religion as a factor to many evil things is because religion is a factor in nearly everything good or evil, once again I must say it is application that will generally make somthing evil.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 5:25 AM
Your statistics and opinions once again only depend on a particular point of view.
namely that the war on terror is just about catching and bringing to justice/killing bin laden and his cronies. Clearly Bush sees the war on terror extending to those who activly harbour terrorists (which Iraq does) and those who condoned the 9/11 atrocities (which Iraq did). It has been widely claimed that the US and Britain sold Weapons of Mass distruction to Iraq, it was not implausible then that Iraq might still have them so as for being a non-enemy well that is clearly wrong. America had been blockading Iraq since the first war. Since 9/11 it was clearly felt that the situation of having such an activly hostile nation in an all ready tense region was untenable.
Essentially the rest of your argument dependes on how much money has been spent on the war on terror basically your putting price on justice. The reality is this if you choose to fight a war you fight to win that means you spend as much as you can to win the war quickly.
Equally your comment about lives lost is insulting and stupid just because 3000 innocents lost their lives does not equate to casualties in a war fought. Once again you fight to win.
Your argument boils down to if only 50 soldiers die and it costs $10000 dollars then the war is ok but if it cosats to much well money is to important to waste, how very mecenary of you.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 5:29 AM
Your commont about religions being evil, so essentially you see the Jews as evil as well how is this different from the Nazis.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 7:31 AM
More blood has been split thoughout history in the name of religion than any other cause: FACT.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 7:37 AM
There's no fucking guy with a big white beard living in the fucking clouds, do you not realize how insane that is!? By your logic we should Worship Satan too just in case it turns out he's actually the guy in charge.
Finally, if there is, possibily some kind of God or creator being then what kind of an being would he be to not let people into heaven unless they dovoted their lives to worshiping him. Why would it not simply be enough to live an honest and just life helping your fellow man? The whole thing is just an excercise in brainwashing.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 7:43 AM
So why didn't you fucking idiots do that in the 'Star Wars' thread? Thanks to you and your political bitching that topic was overun and had to be closed.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 7:47 AM
Are Jewish people themselves a religion? No, they are a race dumbass.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 7:49 AM
Whichever way you cut it religion was still a big part of the problem.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 10, 2004 8:57 PM
Mate, just a couple of things in reply to your post.
You said "It has been widely claimed that the US and Britain sold Weapons of Mass distruction to Iraq" - this is no claim. Go to a library and look at the news paper / current affairs for the early eighties era. This happened. On TV. Shaking hands. So, "claims" is wrong.
Also, you mentioned, and support (?) this "America had been blockading Iraq since the first war. Since 9/11 it was clearly felt that the situation of having such an activly hostile nation in an all ready tense region was untenable."
First of all, "blockades" do not work. You ban basic produce/medical etc to a country and who will suffer 1st. The poor plebs - the ones who do not need to be targeted and do not wield the power in a dictatorship - this is obvious. The rich will not feel the sanctions at all. It is probably better to place international sanctions on the shipment of caviar to Iraq - Saddam may have felt that more.
How can starving the innocent be humanitarian???
I would also again like to mention to you - what is the difference between Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya and Israel. You mentioned "actively hostile nation" - mate, i hate to inform you of world matters but all the above countries are "actively hostile". So, what does Iraq have that the other countries don't? Saddam was performing these atrocities while rcving US and foreign military, financial and produce?
Dare i say the 'O' word.
Oil, boys and girls...
If you can factually, objectively and undeniably show a major reason why Iraq was singled out that doesn't involve oil, or the tenuous reason of harbouring terrorists (like all the other countries aforementioned do, and are "Active") - then i will accept your statement.
And so will the rest of the world - and not just the democracies.
Thankyou
Alistair
Australia
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 4:10 AM
O.K playing devils advocate here
Iraq wouldn't have been attacked for Oil for several reasons
(i) Not financially secure. In this I mean that there are too many risks involved in getting Oil from Iraq.
First America needed to be sure it could win the war fullstop. Obvious it seems but sever "war games " conducted some 4 months before the war did show several tactics the Iraqs could use to cause severe difficulties to US troops ( example using dozens of light boats to attack the more unmanouverable heavy ships). This was of course unlikly and didn't occur but was still a concern.
Secondly assuming America could win the war it had to be sure it could win it quickly, for several reasons, first mounting cost that can lose you a war as quickly as casualties can. Secondly world and domestic pressure would be against a prolonged conflict.
This has been seen.
Thus the political sacfrafice needs to have a sufficient payoff returns on Oil would have to be huge indeed to do this.
In addition a prolonged conflict increases the chance of the Oil pipes getting damaged. Now the infastructure for Oil production pipes rifineries trucks ships etc is very expensive as normally its a one off payment, the engineers don't take into account war.
Therefore if any pipes get damaged or destroyed it would take long term and expensive methods to repair them payed by America while still fighting.
In short as is being seen at the moment Oil production won't be at full potential for months maybe years and the repairs are coming under American and to an extent British coffers. (remember the US can't force the Iraqs to pay even if they wanted to as they don't have the money).
Not only this but after the war ends possibly years from now America has to be sure that it is still in control enough to dictate who gets the Oil.
Not only that but will Bush be president when he starts getting the benifits of Oil?
If it is purly for personal (rather than national reasons ) to get Oil this seems slightly unliky as there are quicker ways to get Oil such as drilling in National reserve parks in Alaska, a far quicker return than a war.
Now don't get me wrong its not that I support Bush or even think that he wouldn't go to war for Oil but I do think he (or at least his advisors) are intelligent (I hate using that word in the same sentence as Bush) enough to realise that Oil and long term war doesn't equal money.
Which brings me onto my heading.
(ii) Alternatives to war.
If Bush just wanted Oil why go to war at all he could have buttered up Saddam given him reassurances that he would never be invaded and in return got some nice juicy trade agreements and for that matter why not have Saddam throw in a few scape goat "terrorists" and kabam one middle eastern country suddenly turns away from a course of terror America gets Oil Saddam gets to be president for lfe and the world thinks the US is marvoullous for being so peaceful.
Implausible? not really when you look at Libya they arn't quite so threatening anymore I wonder what deal has been struck there?
As for Saddam yeah he liked to portray himself as this big shot sstanding up to America but comeon he wasn't a religious nutter like Bin Laden he was a mercenary he would have gone along with a deal.
This is one alternative others include possibly throwing away the Alliance with the Saudi government and attacking them (way way more Oil)this one is a bit unlikly though.
(iii) Conclusion.
Now I think Bush is a bit of a warmongerer (a bit being overstatement of the year)but I don't think he attacked Iraq for Oil not because he wouldn't but because it wouldn't make any financial sense at least thats what I think I dunno if anyone has some outragous figures like the US is NOW at this moment shipping hundreds of looted oil to America then yeah I would agree but it just doesn't seem likly.
Why did he attack Iraq possibly the terrorists have given him the slip and he wanted to be seen to be doing something, possible vendetta for his dad (though I think the Bush family is too mercenary to allow this sort of thing to get in the way of money).
Maybe they did think there were waepons of mass dustruction there (ha ha).
I personally would go for the one that they just want to get a foothold in the middle east and as to attacking Iran or Syria well I think they probably will.
I am not sure that his war on terror is just about catching the terrorists who commited the attrocity of 9/11 but also about Westernising the Middle east so it can't happen again but if this is there policy then I don't think it is working but it is a reason why they would take over random countries in the region.
p.s this is a bit of a controversial post but please reply in a productive matter no need for random abuse.
I don't especially agree with Bush but I don't think the was for Oil.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 4:14 AM
Sorry alot of Typos in my last post please bear with me.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 4:38 AM
American Civil war
Veitnam
First World War.
Second World War.
War of the Roses
Pellopenisian war
War of Jenkins Ear
American war of Independance.
Franco-Prussian war.
English Civil War
Spanish Civil War
French Revolution
Hundred Years war
Cod War
Mongol Invasion
Alexanders the Greats Expansion
First Persian War
Second Persian War
First Punic War
Second Punic War
Gulf War
Invasion of Syracuse
Neapolionic Wars.
Norman conquest
Mexican War of Independance
Brazilian War of Independance
Chilian War of Independance
Argentinian War of Independance
Costa Rican war of Independance
Ecuadorean War of Independance
Puruvian War of Independance.
Venuzaluan War of Independance
Ecuadorian/Purivian war
Crimean War
Peasants revolt
Soviet/German War in Finland
Russian Revolution
Japan/Russian War
Edward Firsts conquest of Scotland
Edward First conquest of Wales
Roman Civil War
Russian/Swedeish war
British Expansion and Empire building
Bay of Pigs
Russian/Afgan war.
Assyrian expansion
Egyptian expansion
Babylonian expansion
Macaonia versus Athens
Macodonia versus Sparta
Macadonia versus Thebes
Macaonia versus Corinth
Pyric Invasion
Belgian Congo War.
Not many wars have been fought in the name of Religion. FACT
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 4:40 AM
Even the crusades have got deeper underlying factors under the surface, as have jihad as have Dutch revolt etc etc
Thus NO war has been fought JUST for religious reasons FACT
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 5:03 AM
Jewish people are both a race and a religion dumb ass.
And anyway lets have a look at your reasoning here Religion is evil, thus people who follow religion are evil, thus Mother Teresa, Gandhi, Issac Newton, etc etc are all evil? These are intelligent people you can't just say they were brainwashed.
The other argument is that religion is evil but the people following it aren't this is stupid much like saying that murder is evil but murders aren't.
And as for worshiping Satan some people do they are call Satanists sherlock.
Good argument "what ever you say religion played a big factor" well yes good point apart from the fact that it is the most stupid argument since George Bush got to tegether with Tony Blair and said there were Weapons of Mass distruction in Iraq and that they should invade. Or to put it another way your argument runs I don't care what you say I am right, thats nearly as pointless as "worshiping a big guy with a beard who lives in the clouds".
Yes an act of brainwashing despite living in a commercial athesit state with little or no financial or social incentive to practice religion clearly all those Christains in Britain Spain America and which ever other Democracy you want to name are clearly all being brainwashed and left to live out their lives in compounds. Explain why Capatilisim isn't Brainwashing by the same argument? Oh heres one, because brainwashing is an over used word to expalin away why people don't live their lives how you want them to.
Mind you the internet just wouldn't be the same without sweeping generalised stements such as
Religion has done more good than evil. Your argument rested on Bush is evil (subjective) his voters were Christian (generalised)
All Christians at all times must be evil (generalsied).
So what, all the rules a religion condones are evil, some of the rules what? I mean there are so many religions, yet you say they all have it wrong and are evil?
You can see where your argument falls can't you a Greek Pagan religion says there are forces which man doesn't understsand and they must be respected equally is that EVIL or just wrong or not even that, Quakers say fighting is wrong is that evil?
Your argument is one of someone who has watched too much popular history programmes and doesn't really understand religion or philosephy
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 5:06 AM
Read more "evil than good" in last post.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 7:19 AM
Dude, religion was the motivation for pretty much every one of those wars you mentioned, example: The Hundred Years war, it was basically the slaughter of non Christain people because they weren't Christain.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 7:22 AM
If organized religion had never exsisted I can tell you now that many, many lives would have been spared whether through war or any other cause.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 7:29 AM
Religion is for the weak, for those who do not have enough belief in themselves and what they can achieve. Its for those that refuse to take responsibility for their actions, its used as an excuse for many atrocities, genocide, torture, war, control of a population or people etc. Many, many bad things have occurred where religion has been a root cause, but many good things have also happened because of religion. Religion and politics have been intertwined for many hundreds of years, I believe that its time for religion and poiltics to seperate, politics will not disappear, not when there are so many different opinions held by people. But, religion has had its day, its time for humanity as a whole to grow up and take responsibility for itself, to leave religion behind, (as a child may leave the belief in santa claus, or the tooth fairy behind, when they reach adulthood, for example)its time to get rid of that which we do not need anymore. Its holding us back, we have to throw off the shackles of religion, to move forward and look to the future, there is progress to be made if we are brave enough...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 8:46 AM
Do you Know about History?
The Hundred Years war was fought between the Catholic English and The Catholic French. It was fought not over who had the better religion or even anything to do with religion but who had the best claim to the French lands. Particularly around Calais and Anjou. Non Christians weren't involved at all, nor were were random Christian groups it had nothing to do with religion.
Sheessh you guys really can't come up with a good argument can you.
"Most of those wars had something to do with religion or were caused by relgion" blah blah name one and I will tell you why you are wrong.
I still don't know why none have you have mentioned the crusades yet its like the only war which you would actually have a decent argument and even then there are some vital counter aguments.
As for religion having its day well once again you haven't given an actual reason you have simply said politics and religion are both as bad (and good) as each other but religion is childish so we will leave it. Your argument is incoherent. None of you have actually any proof or facts just the same commonts endlessly repeating each other.
The argument is simple Religion initself is not evil as shown by religions which are aimed at the wellbeing of society. However religion along with any other ideology can most definitly be used for evil. This is a case for striving to uphold the original tenants of a religion or philosephy not for banning religion.
Democracy has its faults and has been applied badly in the past but we strive to make it better. I don't see the difference.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 9:03 AM
Religion for the Weak and for those willing to sacfifice themselves for there fellow man John Bradbourn, Mother Teresa, Gandhi. But of course these people were losers who gave away everything they had to help people just because some "religion" told them it was the right thing to do what retards.
They should have followed Stalins policys he had it sorted he threw off the shackles of religion and was able to make his country a super power which challenged the US, yeah what a hereo for a athiest society.
I mean come on crazy ideas like helping random strangers or the poor yeah right not when I can sit in my nice suburban home safe in the knowledge that society sets my morals and if those losers worked harder they would be allright.
Its Darwanisim survival of the fittest thats the way to go. Minority group in society that is a scape goat take em out eugenics can give us justification, aging poulation euthenasia can help.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 9:30 AM
Religion is pointless and bad for America if it wasn't for religion then the US wouldn't have to justify it self to everyone the whole time we could get on with being the most powerful nation on earth.
Its basically the biggest devide between the Democrates and Rupublicans if it was abolished America could be United again and truly rule the world.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 10:24 AM
Damn right none of this Good Samaratian rubbish MIGHT IS RIGHT GO AMERICA.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2004 11:18 AM
Nothing to do with religion but just wanted to point out that Direoswald is a fat geek who can't rap go to the marlon Brando is dead site if you want to see.
Anyway you guys need to get a life come on arguing about what caused which war is so lame, just have a beer and try not to let the Christian nutters or the Athiest millitants get to you.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 3:15 AM
Uh do you actually get those kind of Athiest weirdo's in America? I thought you only got the Christian fanatics not the burn churches ones. Thats quite worrying.
I'm a bit more sympathetic to people who are trying to live there lives by a certain set of morals now.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 3:56 AM
"If orginised religion hadn't existed then many lives would be speared."
Ah then you conceed that unorginised religion would be o.k.
However if we take this argument futher then you must also agree that orginised religion is ok. Unorginised religion by definition allows the "believer" to do what he wants as there are no set rules.
Only orginised religion sets the standards by which someone lives there life thus restraining the worst of any violence if applied correctly.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 8:59 AM
"Many lives would be speared"!? What are you talking about?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 9:03 AM
I think burning their churches would be harsh.
I don't have a problem with their beliefs, but why do they have to push it on everyone else? Seems like every other week some nut is knocking on the door trying to sell me God.
I'm gonna chase the next one off with the garden hose, I swear I will. Also, I was wondering why, if God is so loving then why does that not include gay people?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 9:16 AM
Most religions except for Christianity can be considered "evil", since most of them support things which are immoral and anti-God, i.e they don't accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Unfortunately, the American government allows for this evil to take place. Some countries actually do the right thing and establish Christianity as the official religion, and ban some of the 'evil' religions.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2004 9:40 AM
Highlighting the dark sides of religions easily prove that religion(s) is the source of evil. But we should also have to consider the contribution of the religions to building the civilizations and human dignity. It is true in the realms of religions there are/were many non religious group/persons who are doing and did many strange things including genocide to capturing others homeland. The most negative attributes ( not original ) of the conventional religions are -
· Intolerance : the hatred and persecution of people of different beliefs, even to the point of killing them.
· Obscurantism: opposing intellectual, artistic and scientific advances.
· Authoritarism : opposing intellectual artistic, social and political freedom
· Dogmatism: arrogant, stubborn assertion that what one believes is true.
· Narrowness : the view that only the members of a particular group will be saved while the rest of humanity is demand.
· Hypocrisy : preaching ethics while behaving in an antithetical manner.
After reading the above brief if we ask our self ``Are these religions` adjectives ?``, I don`t know your answer, but my answer is `NO`. By the name religion if nonreligious person/group do consciously or unconsciously any controversial activity(ies), I think it should not claim the religions itself, as we can`t claim the science when scientist make atom bomb like destructive weapons.
About the religions we can get a positive answer, if we go back in the root, and analysis the origin and purpose of religions. The word `religion` it self come form the Latin word `religere` meaning `to rebind` implying that although man is connected to God by creation, he has to bind himself back to God by his own choice. ( Although most people think religion always has something to do with God, Buddhism is the religion that does not believe in God.). As I understand, the main purpose of the religion is to establish : eternal ( God`s ) joy and happiness through the practice of true love. God (Universal Parent) become happy ( internally our original self ) when His children become responsible – citizen, husband-wife and parents in the family as well as responsible leader of society. When Heavenly Parent sees His children as a responsible His sufferings eliminate and human being enjoy eternal joy from absolute relationship. In this enjoyable circumstances I am sure we never can never deny the religion or can not blame as a source of evil. To resolve the blames against religions need to establish and practice the `The New Truth` which is the unique combination of science and religions, external and internal, physical and spiritual, visible and invisible.
However, by born we are religious, everybody has and inherit own and/or traditional religions by which way everybody going forward as their best. ` WE ARE HUMAN BEING, OUR RELIGION IS HUMINITY`. If we said religion is the source of evil, we can`t justify our position and dignity of existence also. I don`t like to consider the conventional religions as complete religion. In Old Testament era and New Testament era the life and societies were considerably governed on the basis of traditional religions, but now in this Complete Testament era advancing by Science and personal practices. Although science has established its higher-level success but not it also complete truth. Science represents only the visible part i.e. body of truth; and religion represents the mind of truth. Without mind/spirit the truth never can be completed. So there must need the establishment of complete truth through the unity of mind and body, religions and science.
This is the proper time to make ourselves as `religious more than religious` who don’t have religious identity ( just have one identity as a Children of God ) by practicing true love ( unconditional/ selfless love by practicing the universal parental serving and take caring others with responsibilities ) in personal life, in our family life and our societal life. In order to overcome the regions` evil tracks, I think it will be effective to promote the new terminology and original essence including God/ Allah .. I feel easy to address God as `Universal Parent`. If we really believe and practice on region(s), we must practice the universal family values considering all being especially human being as member of Global Family as like as our physical family members.
Everybody has desire and is working so hard to be happy by establishment of peace and harmony as well as human rights in the levels of lives as original desire. But we can not be doing because of conflicts ( we face conflict as we don`t have clear idea about evil and goodness, and about our position in which side ) between mind and body which extends from individual life to societal life along with family conflict; that most of case influence to national conflict and worldwide conflict by leaders` characters and decisions ( religious conflicts, political conflicts, tribal conflicts ). The conflict can be resolved only when we will be able to find a `common centre` (religions explain it as God centre). The concept about God also contaminated, as we explains and understand God in different way, some case partially, some case mistreated (based on self centre view point or own community traditions, not from universal view point). To find the common centre based on God`s love (universal true love ) the unity of religions as well as all moral and ethical ideologies is essentially required. This consciousness must need to raise that our seed is same, our source is same and our destination also same, just different our thinking and way.`
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 13, 2004 2:26 AM
Good point. I think it comes back to an early argument where religion is often in one form or another at the heart of everything. Because of this we can't just ignore it but search in how best to apply it.
Back to the argument of Religions pushing it on people well part from the fact that its there fright of free speech I agree it can get blasted annoying but then its no worse than politician constantly canvasing, "no one believes you go away!!!"
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 13, 2004 2:38 AM
In the religions which frown on homosexuality they still say God loves gay people. This is how the theory works- Marriage is the context for sex to take place. One of the prime reasons for marriage and expressing a husbands love for his wife and vice versa is the begining of a family.
A gay relationship can never have children naturally. Thus can't marry.
Therefore although being gay in itself isn't wrong having sex outside marriage is. Thus the same rules apply to a gay person as any other person.
The next question of course would be why can't gay people marry anyway does it matter that they can't have children?
Well of course this is the really controversial thing as any Americans will now looking at California.
Again the answer comes down to the fact that the one of the principle points of marriage is to begin a family. This is coupled with the idea in most religions that forbid gay marriage that sex isn't the be all and end all of human existance human kind can live without it. Priests themselves the ones actually formulating these rules are supposed to be celibate.
Thus the argument is reveresed, can you be gay without having sex.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 13, 2004 3:24 AM
I guess you could. Anyway, I don't have a problem with religion but I do think that it should be kept seperate from politics as there are alot of extremists out there. If it was up to many of them we'd still be burning women for being witches.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 14, 2004 7:36 AM
Yeah but there would be some bad points as well.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 15, 2004 9:07 AM
If many of these Christian fundamentalists had their way we'd all be burning books like 'Harry Potter' and Darwins 'The Origin of the Species'.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 16, 2004 9:51 AM
Go to the batman forum (batamn costume)we are mocking the random NZ guy who is always rapping
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 16, 2004 10:00 AM
What have those last comments got to do with anything, of course extremists will do extreme things extreme Nazis want to kill jews. yes we know. It doesn't mean its going to happen.
Let it go alright, the argument is over religion proved it deserved to still be around. if all you can do is resort to whining then you are a bigger bunch of retards than I thought.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 17, 2004 5:02 AM
Hmmmm, I think religion is a bit outdated really and in this day and age, as a race we should be able to exsist with out this kind of 'security blanket.' People should be able to live their lives without constantly refering to the Bible as some sort of instruction manual on life. I agree with the guy who posted before, we shouldn't be holding all these archaic beliefs in such high regard.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 18, 2004 2:10 AM
Having religion as a safty blanket isn't productive but you forget that some /many find religion a duty more than a security those that really devote themeslves to the poor for example.
I don't think to disregard it without evaluating the philisophical arguments (which have never been completly answered by either side) is productive. As has been mentioned before religion has and will play a centeral role in human development.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 19, 2004 4:54 AM
That's not necessarily a good thing.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 19, 2004 7:53 AM
What people devoting time to the poor and living their lives to a certain set of morals? Having respect for thier fellow man? Trying to understasnd thier life better? No your right that isn't neccisarily a good thing.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 20, 2004 9:25 AM
It's not a good thing when we have so many wackos who become obsessed with religion and commit terrible acts in the name of it.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 21, 2004 3:24 AM
It's also not a good thing when we have people put into positions of power within religion who then abuse the trust that's been put into them by raping little boys.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 21, 2004 5:42 AM
Yeah but those examples occur in politics as well and are irrelevant.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 21, 2004 5:43 AM
Anyone remember the NZ fag kid who kept on rapping on dtheatre well he was mocked so badly on the batman begins costume theatree that he siaid he was never coming back. WHAT A LOSER.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 21, 2004 4:55 PM
Hey Bush!
IMMEDIATELY STOP WAR AGAINST MUSLIM WORLD! ELSE IRAN WILL FUCK YOUR UGLY ASSHOLE AND THEN AMERICA WILL ERASED FROM WORLD MAP. BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU ARE MAKING FUCKING STEPS. MUSLIM WORLD NEVER TERRORIST AND YOU'RE THE FUCKING BIG TERRORIST ON THE WORLD. IF YOU CONTINUE YOUR AZZHOLESHIP, WE WILL SHOW YOU YOUR AZZ.....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 22, 2004 4:52 AM
I wouldn't call little boys being raped irrelevant.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 24, 2004 8:50 PM
Recount will happen in Ohio. Should happen in Florida, but Jeb owns the state. Bush cheated, sad but true. Second time this. Presidential election fraud is treason. Penalty treason death. It is time to take our country back. Some one must step up to plate and do their duty as required by law and constitution. Bush must go. Those who allow his stealing of two elections are traitors also. America, rise up. Lets get going now. Leave for washington. Hike, bike, fly, taxi, drive, it does not matter. Bring your guns, knives, poison, rocks, broken bottles, fists whatever you have. Take this country back now. Leave today. We can do it. Must do it. Treason not to. We the people
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 25, 2004 3:41 AM
Irrelevant in that it isn't an argument initself to critisise religion because it occurs outside religion.
Also Iran is a shit hole that will be destroyed just as easy you have nothing the western World doesn't.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 25, 2004 7:46 AM
They have Allah, who 3000 people died in the name of on 9/11. Yes, religion is such a good thing.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 26, 2004 3:25 AM
Indeed and Mother Teresa had God where over 1 million people have been saved beacuse of her Order. Yes Religion is a good thing.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 26, 2004 7:02 AM
So you're saying that if not for religion Mother Teresa would have simply not bothered helping anyone?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 28, 2004 8:31 AM
Yes
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 28, 2004 8:33 AM
Considering the fact that everything she did was done out of devotion for her religion.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 28, 2004 7:23 PM
CAN'T BELIEVE EITHER ARGUMENT. THOSE WHO FEEL DIVIDED ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO FEEL DIVIDED. THE CONSERVATIVE ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE. ME? WELL, I WANT TO BE AND I AM CONSERVATIVE. I AM ALSO A PROUD CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!
KERRY WAS AND IS A VERY CLOSE RELATIVE OF PINOCIO AND SCARECROW.
HIS VIETNAM CLAIM STEM FROM THIS.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 29, 2004 8:32 AM
If people want to believe in fantasy then I'm not going to stop them, I wouldn't go around telling little children that Santa doesn't exsist for instance. Just keep religion out of politics and schools and I'll be happy.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 29, 2004 9:12 AM
Indeed. Petty.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 29, 2004 9:39 AM
When you say keep religion out of schools do you also mean the schools which the church set up. as in preety much every single one in Europe and North America?
I believe in a fantasy as well, you will finally realise your wrong and shut the fuck up. Stupid isn't it.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 30, 2004 5:48 AM
Come on, try thinking for yourself for once. We are now well into the 21st century and people are still trying to push irrational beliefs on impressionable youth. Kids are particularly vulnerable to irrational beliefs that are told to them by adults. They are taught at a young age that they should be subservient to the adults in their lives. They should be taught that being a critical thinker and searching for the truth on their own is of utmost importance. The search for the truth and giving people the necessary skills to search for that truth is what education is all about.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 1, 2004 5:14 AM
Whats your point both sides are saying that?
Simply saying that atheisim or religion is an irrational belief is contradicting yourself, as you are assuming you already know the truth.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 4, 2004 2:33 PM
Atheisim is just a term that religious people made up to descibe all us 'non-believers'. That and heathens, infidels, etc. You want to believe in some kind of all powerful creator being? Fine, but as someone who sees these beliefs as mis-guided I don't want to see them having any influence on the way all of us 'Atheists' live our lives. Practice it in Churches or your own homes but keep it out of schools and politics.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 5, 2004 3:19 AM
uh actually heathen is someone who practiced the old pagan religions and infidel described a Christian or Muslim depending on your standpoint.
The problem with your argument is that it is completly undemocratic of what society may want not to mention potentially completly negleglecting the needs of ethnic minorities.
You want to calm down mate, have a beer, relax. Your going to be dead by the time your 30 if your not careful.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 6, 2004 4:24 AM
And I suppose I'm going straight to hell right?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 6, 2004 6:29 AM
Uh..what are you talking about...I have to go now on a completly unrelated incident.
Why do you think your going to hell? are you suicideal? Have I spelt that right? Does any one care ?
I just said to calm down, go to the fridge and get a beer I suggest a low calory one as otherwise it may damage your over worked heart.
Alternativly go for a warm real ale. I would recomend Santas Tipple which is both refreshing and seasonal.
Look all I can say on the subject of religion is that if you continue with these heated arguments against peoples way of life your going to get an ulcer, your not changing anyones beliefs, so sit back with that cool beer and relax.
There doesn't that feel alot better.
BUT REMEMBER low Calory beers SHOULD only be drunk for health purposes otherwise go for a full on beer. A larger (I would avoid Budwiser and Becks concentrate on Stella Artois or Carlsburg) if need be but Preferably a Stout or Bitter. Better yet if you can handle it go for a Ale.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 7, 2004 5:43 AM
I think you may be an alcoholic.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 7, 2004 5:57 AM
Yeah I know. I think you think it is a bad thing.
Have got that beer yet
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 8, 2004 8:43 AM
Nah, I find beer tastes like piss.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 8, 2004 9:24 AM
Oh really? Wait a second are you American in which case I'm sorry to say that your beer does taste like piss.
I wonder what beer John Kerry and George Bush drink.
So what alcholic beverage do you drink?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 9, 2004 3:55 AM
Alcohol is an aquired taste and I've never bothered to drink enough to aquire the taste.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 11, 2004 7:30 AM
seriously? Fair enough in that case I would suggest southern comfort and lemonade to get you started. EMM if you don't like alchaol then be liberal with the lemonade and plenty of ice. I would suggest one part Southern Comfort for every 3 parts lemonade and at least three ice cubes.
That will go down a treat, though I have to warn you its a bit of a feminine drink, so you may want to lower the lemonade over time to get it so you can drink the Southern Comfort neat.
Also if you are under 21 in America (unlucky what a crap law) go to a grocery store its well easy to buy booze without being ID'd
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 11, 2004 7:44 AM
I just don't see the point of it all mate, I've never really gotten into the whole drinking culture thing. It seems that Britain is the only country where drinking is considered a sport (You know, "I've had 15 pints and 6 shots!" "Well I've had 20 pints, 8 shots and a bottle of wine so I win!") and I just don't get it. What's fun about going out and downing so much booze that you end up passing out in your own vomit at the side of the road?
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Posted by Niq Bell (niqbell@hotmail.com) on January 6, 2005 1:51 AM
Well the thing is winning in drinking isn't so much how much you drink as who stays up the longest, the ones who collapse on the side of the road are the losers, the winners stagger home.
Think of it as an marathon test, but using your brain gut and liver instead of your legs.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 7, 2005 4:15 AM
Drinking is cool! Like rapping on the internet.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 12, 2005 3:36 AM
bush is blood brother with kerry from the same skull & bones society,so you see it does not matter
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