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Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka
By Acheron on January 31, 2001 9:32 AM

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(Fox News)Yes, you read that right folks. Marilyn Mason is going to be starring as Willy Wonka in the Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory remake. And he's going to make him a truely evil character.

"I really see the movie as a metaphor. I see Willy Wonka as Satan because he presents people with the temptation of picking good and evil, and they all pick evil," Manson told London's Sun newspaper.

Tim Burton will be directing the remake, and it will be released through Warner Brothers. It is sure to catch some grief from parents around the country.

Personally, I don't like Marilyn Mason as a performer. And his image is more than a bit disturbing. But I do like him as a writer, and do recognise that he is extremely intelligent. I think this will translate well to film. Because of this I think that this might be very interesting.

No word yet on when it is supposed to start filming.

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RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 1:17 PM

This story is complete bullsh*t. There are numerous rumors about Manson's supposed starring role.... They are absolutely untrue.

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 1:24 PM

I don't have a problem with Marilyn Manson in a movie, but the story of Willie Wonka was a happy one in which he tries to find a child to take over his candy factory. It shows that he is a truly caring person which is why I'm confused with fact that this will be an evil portrayal of the character.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 5:44 PM

i like marilyn manson..and its ok for him to be in the movie becus he can do enything becus he is his seife...from heidi

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 6:25 PM

"Marilyn Manson" is walking proof that euthanasia is a viable choice for dealing with the truly disturbed individuals on the planet. Nuff said.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2001 8:19 AM

because he is different and thinks for himself and does not follow the norm. You should kill yourself start a new christian trend!!!

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2001 12:37 PM

Marilyn Manson is the best heavy metal preformer in the U.S. and deserves to portray whoever he feels necessary to give his insight onto subjects as god jesus or satan regardless of who thinks otherwise

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 18, 2001 3:16 AM

What the heck.. Who said Marilyn Manson was Heavy Metal?? That fag is a Alternative queer... Haha.. And yeah that is a rumour of him being willy wonka. Probably some dumb 14 year old mansonite fag who's really into Korn cause they think they are so goth starting saying that crap..

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 6, 2001 9:20 PM

listen a--hole you nor any of your faggot friends will ever be able to appreciate anything by Reverend Manson because it takes such an underacheiver like yourself to dis him, and Korn never said they was goth, I happen to be a fan of both bands, and so many people have bad things to say about Manson, well if you would look at his lyrics and the way he presents himself it is all an act, he is portraying charectors in his album, any other time when he is on mtv or something he is as nice as could be, but you wouldnt know that because you spend so much time hating, doesnt your so called christian bible teach you to love everyone? well what is wrong with a 32 year old man named Brian Warner who calls himself Marilyn Manson? nothing, so either shut the hell up or tell Mr. Manson what you said to his face

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 16, 2004 11:21 AM

man it has just got to be Johnny Depp as Wanka! Manson is a great performer in his own right(not to mention acting potential as seen in BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE -funny as hell), but Burton has experience with Depp and I personally believe it will be a more rounded movie with our dear Johnny. As for who it will start and when it comes out? - Nothing have read or heard anywhere niether confirms nor denies anything. Time will tell

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 17, 2002 8:18 AM

You F*ckin Wanker "nuff said" lol let me guess you listen to rap or dance? i dunno i seem to be immitating you on your stereotypical views

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2003 9:59 PM

"Nuff said" is a saying comic legend Stan Lee uses. So stop making assumptions. Why judge what you don't know ? Same goes for Manson. A bunch of dumbasses say stuff that they HEARD. They know nothing about him therefore they can say nothing about him. In addition I've noticed many who pass judgement on him to have very bad spelling and grammar which proves my point:
They're dumbasses.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 25, 2003 7:57 PM

fuck you you dirty mother fucker. he is metal and you know it. even your mom says so. i should know because i was fucking her in the as last night. so shut the fuck up. cock sucker....

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 4, 2004 1:11 PM

Marilyn Manson is not metal, shut up kid.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 7, 2004 5:12 PM

bro you seriously need to get a life and stop licking manson's nuts. believe what you want to believe. if you believe it then who give a fuck about what other people say. its this great thing called an opinion. look it up in the dictionary.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 1, 2004 11:50 AM

You know, if your going to give someone shit, you should really learn how to spell

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 1, 2004 11:44 AM

you must be a rap loving hockey player

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 29, 2001 10:54 AM

typical christian attitudehmm. doesn't think like us so lets kill it. you know in your bible where it says "thou shalt not kill"? where does your attitude come from? you're an a--hole.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2003 9:48 AM

i bought ur movie u riped me off im sewing

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 6, 2003 11:01 AM

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RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 6, 2003 11:01 AM

oh shut the fvck up random shemp u total tosser

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by lotus (light@dark.com) on March 14, 2001 12:00 PM

Dear friend,
Have you ever actually investigated the character of Marylin Manson? As much as you christians b*tch about EVERYTHING, you never do bother checking into things, now don't you?

Yes, yes, bothered one. Tell me how his image says "nuff" and how assumptions always mirror reality. Was Jesus not assumed evil at first too? Knowledge is power, dear ape.

You and all of your "random" flock are reasons why I LOATHE chrisitans. God, on the other hand, is loved by me.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 26, 2001 11:35 PM

you're dumb.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 9, 2001 6:15 AM

hey, you f*cking freak, you talk nothing but sh*t. the reason why Manson cannot be Willy Wonka is because he is not worthy of being a great acting individule. He hides behind his make-up and f*cked up eye's just to get attention, if you ask me The Zodiac Killer was more of a pioneere, Manson is just a lame excuse for teenagers being wanting to be so called free from parental rule( get a f*cking job first you little bastards). Anyway to me manson is just a stupid obnoxious a--hole loser who depends on props and make-up. With out them he's nothing. Manson will never be a Metallica, Led Zeppelin, The Who and so on all the greats for their times. So i say Manson is not good enough to be Willy wonka.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 3, 2001 12:43 PM

Where th F*ck have you been Metallica sucks ill never listen to them again they paid off those stupid lawyers to take away our right to download music and I listen to Manson and have a job and love god and am not a satan worshipper (actually im a NAZI)
and i'll kill you christens jews and blacks and after your dead the world will be perfect

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 29, 2001 10:59 AM

go away Nazi, we don't need your lame ass here either. you're even more stupid than these idiot bible thumpers. please go kill yourself. i bet all your friends would think it was cool.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 8:47 AM

Manson is fucking awesome and all you stupid rap lovers need to shut the fuck up, and not worry about what manson is doing and just stay out of the white peoples lifes

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 8:48 AM

Manson is fucking awesome and all you stupid rap lovers need to shut the fuck up, and not worry about what manson is doing and just stay out of the white peoples lifes

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 30, 2004 4:01 PM

you need help! your one screwed up person. let people be and do what they believe in! its people like YOU who need to be shot in the head...and get your dick ripped off. Plus metalica kicks ass!

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 29, 2001 10:57 AM

ah but you see, he's rich and famous now, and what are you? nothing at all. probably only important to the other christian feeble minded mutants that surround you. Manson has talent and guts. You have your cheap little voice on here. S'ok. you'll die soon and no one will remember you.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 10, 2001 7:27 PM

when you're a theatrical artist it is better to have the best show in the world than to be the best musician.
It's a show, as it should be.
AKillerNdisguise@aol.com

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 3, 2002 1:52 PM

To the person who said Manson will never be the Who or Metallica? Everyone said The Who and Metallica would never make it. Both bands fought 'the norm' and that is why they still exist. Manson will do the same. Do not get me started on those money grubbing whores Metallica.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 4, 2003 3:54 PM

fvck this sh!t. can't you just say fvck it and let the movie happen? if you don't fvckin' like marilyn manson then why are you in this website wasting your time btiching about him? that's fvcked up. fvck all of you... fvckers.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2003 10:10 PM

See, poor spelling and poor grammar. I don't think you know a thing about Zeppelin.
I'll prove it.
What do you think "Stairway to Heavan" means ?
It's easy to listen to the music, but it's harder to understand it. People dislike what they don't understand, which is most likely why you don't like Manson.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 7, 2004 5:17 PM

bro if you know anything about stairway to heaven you know that it had no meaning to it. Zepplin even said so themselves. the only reason they wrote was so they would have a ballod. and thats just a fact!

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 5, 2004 7:46 PM

I can't believe anyone who would compare Manson's music to his acting. It's not our decision, it's the movie studio's. By the way, have you people who dis him read Marilyn's autobiography? He really is a funny, nice, smart person, and Wonka was his idol as a kid. If he were to play Wonka, he would pour his heart into it, wouldn't you, if you got the chance to portray your idol?

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 1, 2004 11:53 AM

you wouldn't know good acting if it bit you in the ass

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 18, 2001 7:45 PM

I am a christian and you may think that "us christians" dont look into anything but i think what there saying is that marilyn manson will change the story and make into him being evil and thats not right.

you, too, are disturbed

Posted by bjornwad (bjornwad@hotmail.com) on August 21, 2003 10:26 AM

since you just said, "nuff said," i think that you are just as disturbed. because 'nuff' is not a word. anyone who would rather make up words that learning the real ones needs to die in my book. oh wait, everyone at times uses fake words. oh, man! this means that we should all kill ourselves because we cannot tolerate our disturbedness! oh, wait! you're a total idiot.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by bjornwad (bjornwad@hotmail.com) on August 21, 2003 10:27 AM

since you just said, "nuff said," i think that you are just as disturbed. because 'nuff' is not a word. anyone who would rather make up words that learning the real ones needs to die in my book. oh wait, everyone at times uses fake words. oh, man! this means that we should all kill ourselves because we cannot tolerate our disturbedness! oh, wait! you're a total idiot.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 1:21 PM

you need to learn to write.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 2, 2001 9:53 PM

you need to learn to read.....

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 2, 2001 9:57 PM

Makes sense to me, what's your problem?

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2001 11:23 AM

YOU need to learn to respect good writers. Hes obviously doing something right. Hes making more money than your sorry ass!

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 4, 2001 11:07 AM

You ever been on Jerry Springer????

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2001 8:41 PM

You have the right to your own opinion and I respect that. But Marilyn Manson is just going to screw up a Classic! Who would want to see a warped image of that?

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 27, 2004 9:49 AM

I think he would be awesome because is beautiful and talented

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 10, 2001 6:51 PM

You say, 'Willy Wonka is supposed to be a happy character', but he lures children into his grasp. Modern version of Hansel & Gretel, as written by Roald Dahl, much?
Manson will make this disturbing character of Wonka's SO MUCH MORE BELIEVABLE.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2002 12:58 PM

i liked the film first time around but Marilyn Manson would make it 100000000 times better he's smart and a person who proves it aint bad to be different . Tim Burton is an utter genius and would do a kick ass version look @ "nightmare befor christmas", "batman", "sleepy hollow" and "beetlejuice". I dont give one if others dont wanna see it i think ur stupid if u dont! willy wonka to me has always been a bit evil Manson would be one of the only people that could do the role justice these days

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 19, 2001 12:42 PM

wonka was evil you fool! remeber the boat ride? chickens heads getting chopped off etc.And the guy with the knife trolley at the beginning?

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2001 11:48 AM

MARILYN MANSON CAN INTERPRET THE WILLIE WONKA MOVIE ANY WAY HE WANTS. I THINK THAT HE IS GOING TO MAKE A EXCELLENT MOVIE.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 5, 2003 3:31 PM

you fucks are a bunch of losers, stop the protest!! its not like the movie will ever come out, an even if it does it wont be for another ten years anway u people are acting as if its happening fuckin tomorrow... get a life manson freaks!!!

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 2, 2001 11:42 PM

you stupid faggots

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 5, 2001 2:09 AM

haha happy story about kids who get sent to grabage disposals for being loud

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 10, 2001 7:22 PM

willy wonka and the chocolate factory is about the seven deadly sins and the coruption of youth and the world itself. It is an utterly spooky story to begin with. It only suits the story to have the most shocking man in music to play the role of willy wonka. He is the one who temps the children with the sinful treats.
too bad marilyn manson isn' playing will wonka. The children already have their version of this story. They need a spooky one to suit the deviants in this world. They'll probably just screw it up like How the grinch stole christmas.
what a shame.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 20, 2002 6:58 PM

considering that the book was written by rold dahl, a very disturbed man, i find it more than likely that this version is the intended interpretation

Manson To Wonka (my e-mail: Dusk_67@hotmail.com)

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2003 10:37 PM

Sorry to be the one to tell you, but the world isn't a nice place (you have yourselves to blame for this). I believe the story to be a journery through temptation and sin. It's a story of greed and yearning. Many (almost all) of the children who come to the chocolate factory give in to these temptations and fall victim through their own sins. Because the book is about real temptations (although metaphorically)I think they should portray the movie any way necessary to get the point across. I really would have thought religous people would want to see something like this. Too bad they're so narrow minded to know what really goes on in this world.

RE: Manson To Wonka (my e-mail: Dusk_67@hotmail.com)

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2003 10:47 PM

*too narrow minded

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 17, 2004 11:00 AM

marilyn manson should not be willy wonka

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 9:30 AM

It not all bs. In fact I saw manson on Mtv commention on the movie and he is going to be willy Wonka

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 22, 2001 4:28 PM

Marilyn Manson is great. He doesnt have to be what people call normal just to make a movie, or anything. People need to learn to open up their minds, and start execepting new ideas. He may not be what the parents see as a proper role model, but do you see Britney Spears as a proper role model? She is supposed to be Teen material, well she is out posing for playboy and crap like that. That isnt a proper role model either. SO why dont we open up our minds people....

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2001 10:29 AM

I think thats it's going to be a great movie and I hope Marilyn Manson he has fun doing the movie.

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2001 1:22 PM

Sorry,but it is all true.

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 4, 2001 2:28 PM

I was watchin T.V. and it said that Marylin Manson Isnt in the movie at all so i dunno.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 2, 2004 12:21 PM

i heard that the person goin to be willy wonka was johnny depp so hopefully manson wont ruin it

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 22, 2001 7:53 PM

I think Marilyn Manson will do a very good job as Willie Wonka because
he was influanced by Willie so much as a child and I belive he would play it very well

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 5, 2003 3:42 PM

ok, right on! that proves manson's a fuckin freak right there, who is honestly influenced by willie wonka as a child? thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard hes a fuckin chocolate guy, how's that supposed to be some sort of role model. yo, this world is full of some fucked up people, its probably those stupid americans.....

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 20, 2002 2:43 AM

your bullsh*t marilyn manson is going to be willy wonka dude...

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 19, 2002 3:41 PM

Heh, read this... "Willie Wonka is Satan";

http://wonka-is-satan.tripod.com/

-Good point

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 24, 2002 2:23 PM

dude you are just a dirty sheepf*cker...manson is a badass and i cant wait till he really does make this movie cuz he rocks!!!

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 16, 2003 7:39 AM

I think marilyn is the sh*t I think it will be really cool

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 17, 2004 11:01 AM

they are true so fuck off

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 6:58 PM

Yeah, but you're missing the point. Burton's directing again. Let's all hope its something like his earlier work.

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:38 AM

Yeah! Burton kicks ass!

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by Acheron (denny@dtheatre.com) on January 31, 2001 7:29 PM

hey, I liked Sleepy Hollow

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2001 11:40 AM

The nightmare befor Christmas kicks ass too and so does
Franken Weinie

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:39 AM

That's so true!

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 19, 2002 3:34 PM

Oh come on! He slaughtered the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. Nothing near the original. Just a motion picture with a diferent name. SAme old forulma for a "shocker" though. Babe + hero + bad guy + shock value (i.e. *chop*, *chop*, *chop*, blood, blood, blood)

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 31, 2001 11:46 PM

1. If you think M.M. is extremely intelligent, you haven't met extremely intelligent.

2. His acting credits primarily entail him playing himself--not exactly a r�sum� for a major role in a big budget picture.

On the whole, this doesn't sound too promising.

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2001 11:45 AM

Have you ever seen the Dope Hat video he does a great portrayal of Willy Wanka ..... He wrote the intro to the Boat ride anyway..... "theres no earthly way of knowing which derection we are going is it raining is it snowing is a hurricane a blowing not a speck of light is showing that must mean the danger must be growing for the rowers keep on rowing and theirs is no sign that they are slowing ... yada yada"

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:40 AM

You know, if you're going to quote something (espiecally from Willy Wonka) and put quotation marks around it and everything you should at last know the real words to the f*cking thing!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 25, 2001 3:15 PM

You moron. How much crack are you smoking?? Marilyn Manson was barely alive, if he was even born, when that line in the boat came out. He will ruin the movie. This is a happy comedy in which a poor, deserving boy finally sees some light at the end of the tunnel. I don't care how intellegent Manson is or how hes a normal guy off stage. He's a creep on stage. I'm not some God loving guy, I just think a great classic movie should stay a great, classic movie.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 30, 2001 2:31 PM

Manson didn't write the lyrics for the boat ride dumbass. They are the original lyrics from the movie.
If this rumor is true, the teaming of him and Tim Burton will be an awesome venture.
Can't wait!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2001 1:18 PM

It is very true. I personally saw it on the local news and on Mtv.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2001 2:20 PM

I always thought of Willy Wonka of a childs tale, a nice one. But this will throw it all off balance, this is marilyn manson, the guy who wears dead sheep round his neck! Think again, this is a mistake, another chance for him to make money off something he cant do!

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 24, 2001 12:09 PM

Ying/Yang.. balance.. you can't have good without bad, be it good actors and bad actors or good characters and bad characters..

I think a fresh look at the story should be good - in the original, Willy Wonka *IS* quite evil particularly at the end going on about contracts & small print..

I'm wondering now whether The Great Glass Elevator was written to soften the blow of the true W.W. character - as I recall he's pretty sedate through that one.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 3, 2002 2:05 PM

In addition, the character of Willy Wonka IS disturbing. I feel Manson is fit for the character. I mean if Gene Wilder can play Willy Wonka (who plays a beautiful nut) I see no reason why Manson could not pull it off.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2001 5:11 PM

If some of u would actually read the book and not just watch the movie u would know that willy wonka was an evil man who lured children into his grasp with chocolate and candy. MM will make this version more true to the original than the movie we all know.

RE: RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2001 6:03 PM

where did he wear dead sheep around his neck? I'm just curious. Can anyone tell me?

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 2, 2001 12:18 AM

first of all let's think...tales and stories aren't just for children. they always have different levels from where you can look at them. tales and stories are for adults too. have you ever read again the same stories that you read as a child? you can learn new things of the same stories.
if this "marilyn manson as willy wonka" truely happens, i'm very much looking forward to that.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 29, 2001 11:06 AM

oh gimme a break. manson is a success at whatever he does. this will just be another chances for idiots like you to blame someone else for your own failures as a parent.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 7:17 AM

incase it wasn't clear in the previous comment this is all not true. Maralyn Manson will not be in the re-make and it is not being directed by Tim Burton

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 7:57 AM

What makes you so sure it is not going to star Marilyn Manson or be directed by Tim Burton. Where did you get this information? Please tell me why I should believe you. Be persuasive.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 2, 2001 9:59 PM

Check the sidebar here, says the only fact is that there will be a remake of Willy Wonka. Oh...don't cut your head off coz I am not cleaning it up!

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Posted by TheUndeadChick (zombiebme@yahoo.com) on February 1, 2001 8:02 AM

Oh, woe is us. If, in fact, this is true, I just don't know how to take this. I do so enjoy Tim Burton, but at the same time, Marilyn Manson makes me heave like I did last Xmas when I had the stomach flu. I'm torn. This internal torment is just too much for me, so I'm going to go and cut off my own head now.

Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on February 1, 2001 1:31 PM

why do all our stories end up with some one cutting their head off?

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2001 8:17 AM

good idea please kill yourself you close minded f*ck!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2001 8:24 AM

oh woe is us???? you are such a moron. i would so enjoy it if you would cut your head off no one would care except for your preacher at your church of the nonthinking followers. die die die!!!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:42 AM

Good.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 9:10 AM

Only Fox is reporting this, and other sources suggest Nicholas Cage as Wonka and a different director than Burton. Looks like Fox might have it wrong.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 9:25 AM

Let's hope if there is going to be a remake of Willy W. that it isn't Marilyn Manson as Willy Wonka. I always viewed this movie to be a child's film. Do we have to ruin everything in the name of art?

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 4, 2001 6:27 AM

I would not call anything that manson does as art or in the name of art!To do an evil remake of Wonka is a travisty and an insult to kids all around the world and a slap in the face to all of us

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2001 8:27 AM

Times are changing and your in a bubble you should find a little town in the bible belt to live and dont read or watch anything that is not wholesome and pure!!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2001 3:37 PM

What exactly does the lack of talent and overuse of gimmickery to sell yourself have to do with anything here? I do not live in a bubble and don't particularly care if Manson ever utters another public word. Be certain, I would never ever tell you not to enjoy Mansons creations, not in a million years but do we really need to pursue this any further as it has already been established that he will NOT be in the remake? I don't think so. However, it did make for some really interesting discussions. Very spirited.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 6, 2001 1:32 PM

manson suck

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 13, 2001 8:03 PM

you are obviously a dumb sh*t f*cking dick lick that blows goats for a living, you wanna see somthing that isn't art look at the backstreet boys thats not art, marilyn is all art, and this isn't an evil remake you dumb sh*t its an exaggeration of the original themes

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2001 5:59 AM

Dude i don't think that an artist that re-uses other artist songs at all talented. Manson is one of those artist. Besides with out the shock quality of his image he's a nothing. Even worse you would probably be a better person than his true self. He hides behind his make up and mismatched eyes to feel like an outcast and people like you feel pitty for him and buy his music. Now im not saying he dosen't have a write to do what he wants but don't try and sell me Manson as ART. I think that if you came to me and told me "hey listen to this music, i would probably like it, but when i see a figure such as manson it all goes out the window....Example KISS they are not known for being exceptional song writers, if you disagree then you don't know what good music writting is about...."
my point is manson is not ART...

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 19, 2001 4:53 PM

This world is dark death is all over we M M as wonka does not surprise me nor do i care every one i am a jesus freak but im falling in to darkness all this bs i could care less about Marilyn Manson play wonka i hate the stupid movie any ways so you guys go back to your seat and let peace be with you because who cares its only a dumb movie and why fight kill and torment each other even if its not true look what damage you are doing??

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 10, 2001 7:34 PM

read the book.
It is evil.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 10, 2001 11:59 PM

If you do not like Marilyn Manson, you do not know what art is. He is pure perfection and should be appreciated by all. I think he will make the perfect Willy Wonka.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2001 6:11 PM

Everbody is open to have their own opinion. I myself like Marilyn Manson but just because someone else does'nt like him doesn't really mean they are wrong you F@#* face!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:44 AM

It wouldn't ruin anything. It would just make a different version for other people. It won't make the original one disappear you know.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 7, 2001 9:38 PM

Nicholas Cage would be a pretty cool Willy Wonka. I'm hoping that your source is correct. I just don't think that Willy Wonka should be turned into some satanic, horror film. It's not supposed to be a scary movie. It's supposed to be a movie that little kids can watch.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 24, 2001 11:33 AM

and what kind of message is being sent to children watching the original...i don't know about anyone else but when i was little the movie scared me...think about it...little kids be sucked up tubes (possibly going to the fudge room), getting filled with juice (having to be squeezed), falling thru a schute that leads to the furnace (which is only lit every other day), or being shrunk and sent to the taffy pulling machine...not to mention those little orange men with green hair running around singing!! i was frightened when i was little..but now that i am grown i love the movie and i think manson my do a good job!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2001 6:06 AM

obviously you didn't listen to the umpa lumpa's or you were a spoiled rotten little kid like the ones in the movie. Yes i agree that wonka was a bit harsh, but heck i would too if i was giving away my dream factory and everything that i have worked hard for.
Plus the children in the movie were just brats that were anoying and wanted everything, while charlie was the hero of all those kids that are diprived and come from poor families. I don't think that a classic suc has this deserves such a low blow and even to become a horror story. If anything they should stop making pg-13 movies and making them more bloddy and scarry instead of them being cheesy.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2001 1:26 PM

I am sorry to be the one to tell YOU that YOU are wrong! By the way, it is spelled MARILYN MANSON! Keep up and do try harder!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 9:24 AM

If you go to your source and read properly you will see that it says "Marilyn Manson will NOT play Willy Wonka"

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 1, 2001 9:28 AM

Willy Wonka or just a cameo, who wants or needs him in a movie.
(besides a slasher)

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Posted by Difinity (No Email) on February 1, 2001 11:57 PM

hehe, there's nothing wrong with changing and old happy tale into a demonic evil one, American Mcgees Alice is a perfect example, and look how well that has been done, personally I would love to see manson staring in a Tim burton remake of WWCF, tim burton excels in creating dark atmosphere within a moive (sleepy hollow). And I believe Manson would be able to reprise the role of Willy as an Evil sob with no problem. (just look at him) and we do know he is an intelligient, if odd looking individual

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 3, 2001 3:13 PM

Putting asside that I am 25, and I also have a strong dislike for Manson, I think he will mess it up like most remakes.
In todays time, remakes of things are common, but some are good, and others just mess up the classic.
Willy Wonka is a classic childrens movie, and manson should havenothing to do with it.

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Posted by twiztidtears (twiztidtears@excite.com) on February 4, 2001 7:57 AM

I don't know whether this is true or not but it would be totally cool if so. Can't wait to see it!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 4, 2001 6:28 PM

who cares...?...

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 27, 2001 10:52 PM

icare b*tch i want manson to play da roll and he is so shut da f*#k up

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2001 12:05 AM

I think Manson is the coolest man who has ever lived man, and I care about what you say, so keep your mouth shut!!!!!

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Posted by Acheron (denny@dtheatre.com) on February 5, 2001 8:08 AM

the 25 people above(and more)

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2001 3:41 PM

Good point Acheron, it has been a lively discussion.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 17, 2001 9:12 PM

This is to all the delusional f*cks out there who think this classic movie is a nice childrens movie harbering "happy memories of childhood",

Lets face it, this is one f*cked up movie!!!

a)Wonka owns a slave race of Oompa Loompas
forced to work round the clock, and sing catchy slave songs,

(racial discrimination??)

b)They are forced to sign a contract without
knowing what their agreeing to,

(selling their souls?)

c) The boat and tunnel
scene, "faster & faster..." aka Portrait,
Need I say more?

d)they drink a "magical drink", and float toward huge fans,

E) Augustus drowns in a
pool of chocolate, and is then suffocated in a pipe while his mother watches,

F)The bubblegum girl gets turned into a bloated blue round thing and is rolled away by the "slaves"
to be Juiced!!!

(dont ask me how they did that)

theres an endless list of disturbing events in this movie without even going into Wonkas persona and his true motives behind his actions.

But n e who, Manson would make a f*ckin rad
Willy Wonka.

Pity Tim Burton would f*ck it all up.

GET DAVID LYNCH!!!!!!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 17, 2001 9:20 PM

thank god someone finally realizes what this movie is about.. i had read all of the previous posts, and shocked that no one had picked up how truely evil the movie already *IS.*

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 18, 2001 3:20 PM

I think everyone blathering here has missed on big thing: before there were movies, there were books. Yes, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory the movie was filled with music and "seeming" happiness, (see two posts above) but THE BOOK by Roald Dahl, kinda disturbing. Tim Burton is the perfect director for such a twisted tale, and Manson is my pick for Wonka, a truely sick individual. Although Nicholas Cage would be "wonderful" because we all LOVED 'Gone in 60 Seconds'. Basically, if you want happy sappy stuff and bad songs, rent the old one. I'm excited to see the real stuff for a change.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 26, 2001 11:35 AM

i am all for that, i have merly thumbed threw the original book but plan to watch it again...
what i see this boile down to is
if there is going to be a remake of the classic (which we all know is true) what would you rather see... a copy starring Cage in a fun filled movie the whole family can watch .. or change...
Cage could make a good wonka .. but manson has watched the movie since he was a kid.. he has his own interpretation of the movie, and probably knows all of the lones already.. out of any actor who could remake it.. manson is by far the best choice in my view
the movie was f*cked up, i only saw it a year ago and i think it was f*cked ....
and Marilyn Manson will make a great Wonka

and for you people who dont like remakes of childhood stories... what about the little red ridding hood storie that was remade.. i f*ckin loved it..

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 26, 2001 11:37 AM

please excuse the spelling mistakes
and lones was lines

None of you get it do you

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 28, 2001 8:36 PM

Marilyn is an Excellent performer musican and artist and dont hassle him for what he looks like, whos to say hes evil, many christians are more evil like preists saying that all feminists are witches and lesbians

As i See it Marilyn Wants to Be Willy WOnka as for all i know its is faverite movie, all of his portrait of an american family adn Smells Like Children was all based around Willy Wonka

Why cant he do it i think he can, he'll make a perfect Willy Wonka, and whos to say that Mister Willy Wonka was Good any Way or a Childrens film the candy could be interpreted as drugs in a crack factory, and obviously Roald Dalh was on sometihng when he wrote it

Any way I think that all of you who think that Marilyn WOuldnt be Perfect Should take their Heads out of Their Arses and look at the Great BIg White WOrld (We are Drained of our COlours)in which we Live

YOurs

Sexually

JESUS CHRIST

God_of_the_pigs@hotmail.com

RE: None of you get it do you

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2001 5:37 PM

On Smells like children hes actually the child snatcher from Chitty chitty bang bang!!!!!

(hence the song reference "sh*ty sh*ty gang bang")

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2001 2:40 PM

chill out and what is with the attitude of all of these. its a film, if you like that kind of thing watch it, if you dont then just leave it. You dont have to watch every film that comes out. so leave your opinions to yourself and stop getting so stressed

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 6, 2001 9:29 AM

This is a travesty to the joy of "feel good" movies. Stop the insanity! Can the kids of today watch something with a message of hope, love and candy? Please Marilyn and Tim don't mess with a good thing and if you guys wanna make a movie....make a new one and leave the classics alone.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2001 12:29 PM

It all depends on how it is done. The great thing about the original is that it can be viewed on two different levels: the cute little kiddie movie, and the darker level that shows the flaws in humanity. Everyone but Charlie over indulged without feeling remorse, and everyone was taken away to an unspeakable fate except for Charlie. Sure, he drank the floating liquid, but he and his grandfater were sorry, and therefore where the heroes of the story. Some movies just aren't appreciated when viewed on the simplest level. I, for one, saw the movie's darker side when I was a mere tyke, and it scared me. As long as Burton and Manson don't turn it into a slasher/thriller, it should be a good movie. Let us just hope that, no matter who stars in it or directs it, it turns out better than the recent tide of remakes (anyone see Charlie's Angels? Anybody, anybody? Beuller, Beuller?).

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 8, 2001 8:40 AM

this is very old news and has no significance now because Marylin Manson is not going to be doing the movie!!!!!!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2001 6:36 AM

You know, first i gotta say something to some of you people. There is no such thing as "NORMAL", okay? So stop saying that you don't like Manson 'cause he's not normal. Second, if Manson was Willy Wonka that would be so cool. i just wanna know if it's actually true 'cause if it is i can't wait. YAY!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 13, 2001 12:51 PM

Marilyn Manson kicks ass more than Willy Wonka or whatever he's called You go Mazza

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 22, 2001 12:43 PM

marilyn manson will rock the theatres (is that how u spell it)
if its true i wanna b at the premier it would b sooooooo cool man,everybody thinks mansons wierd but hes normal in a wierd world just because he wears make up he has feelings as well.....

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Posted by Brian (bandanna007@hotmail.com) on March 13, 2001 1:03 PM

Marilyn Manson is the best bloke in the world he is well better than Willy Wonka or any other rock star

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2001 4:20 PM

I think that Gene Wilder is the perfect Wonka. I for one will not be watching a remake.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2001 5:04 AM

Whats wrong with Marilyn Manson please e-maul me ya Marilyn Manson lovers at
bandanna007@hotmail.com
from brian

)O+

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 6, 2001 1:33 PM

he is a freak in case you havent noticed!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2001 5:07 AM

marilyn I love ya

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 22, 2001 10:24 AM

manson will never see it anyway

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 22, 2001 5:35 PM

I don't know what's going on, if its Manson or not, but i dont think thats a bad idea... Willy Wonka is not evil... But he is contraversial and sophisticated.. As long as they dont have Manson as an evil goon but a shady and mysterious man it should be great.
Oh yea, manson's music is all a joke, hes just a "boy group" but more creative. His image is all a show to make money, and boy does he...

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 24, 2001 4:35 PM

Those of you posting comments about these evil christians, please don't catagorize everyone as evil. I happen to be christian, am I judging you? stop worring about what people think of you. What is so bad about Jesus anyway? Willy Wonka is my favorite movie and my personal opinion is leave it alone, wether it is Maralyn Manson or Tim Burtin or anyone else, I think that Gene Wilder is a genious. that is just what I think, but that is fine if you think different. See how I did that with out bieng so jugdemental? so in closing i would just like to say... "Give Peace a chance."(John Lennon)

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 26, 2001 7:01 AM

Wishsy Washy crap!!!

willy wonka, a dark and crazy man.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 26, 2001 11:34 PM

willy womka is a severly unhinged person. he is mad, crazy, bonkers. i think it would be a perfect cast if manson played him.
also, i don't think the movie was ever a warm hearted childrens movie. it was pretty dark and almost sadistic.
i think tim burton will do a superb job and i look forward to seeing it!

RE: willy wonka, a dark and crazy man.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 30, 2001 1:49 PM

Stop argueing, Just go 2 www.mansonwantsu.darkgod.net
Ben Judge

RE: willy wonka, a dark and crazy man.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 30, 2001 1:50 PM

Stop argueing, Just go 2 http://www.mansonwantsu.darkgod.net
Ben Judge

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2001 9:35 AM

Listen up. Simply stated all I've ever heard it takes to be an actor (since I don't know myself) is that it takes heart, character, and enthusiasm. Now if you've ever listened to ANY of Manson's albums, seen him live, or heard anything from him, you'll know he is all of those things. He loves what he does. Now in the book Willy Wonka, WW is an evil character. Besides even if he weren't Manson would add a new spin on an old classic. Thank you and good night.
"Cuz it's a great big white world"

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 9, 2001 11:00 PM

I have read marilyn manson's book he is very intelligent and i think he would make a great willy wonka people are very selfish in their oppinions you shouldn't say sh*t you don't know nobody is normal. some people think they know it all and there as twisted as the people they define as crazy. he will do just as good as any actor could do although he is not afraid to express himself like others which would make him better at what he can an already has done. so be open minded and except what is going to happen.

You're idiots, all of you!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 21, 2001 1:03 PM

I'm so sick and tired of people claiming to understand the great truths of the universe about "normalcy" and "art," but who can't even read a damn post without jumping to conclusions!

1) Whether or not you like something has nothing to do with whether or not its "art." If you don't like Manson, that doesn't mean his music isn't art. Likewise, if you DO like Manson, that doesn't mean his work IS art. Your personal f*cking tastes are not the determiner of "art," even if your ego is swollen enough that you think anyone cares.

2) Just because someone doesn't like Manson doesn't mean they are automatically Christian. By assuming they are, you're just falling into the same trap that assumes that Manson is evil because he's "different" from the so-called mainstream. Furthermore, you're showing your own stupid assumptions about the world! A Manson-hater might in fact be Jewish, Hindu, Muslim... or even Pagan, agnostic, atheist, or something else entirely. Don't preach about people having to listen to and recognize Manson as brilliant if you can't stop your idiot mind from jumping to conclusions about their reasons for their opinions.

I don't care one way or the other about Manson and his music. Nor do I care about Christianity. They're both part of the cultural landscape. But rabid, STUPID Mansonites are just as annoying as rabid, STUPID Christians to me.

RE: You're idiots, all of you!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 22, 2001 4:58 PM

ok straight up marilyn manson has done some bad things i agree but if u ppl looked at his background he grew up in a catholic church school and hes not the damn devil u waterboy mom wannabes i think the movie will depict the truth about the whole character of willy wonka he tortures the kids he says everything u want u can have in the world of imagination but when they try to get it they die or whatever they do none of u ppl have a clue what u are talking about all u know is what the press says and if u have a problem with what i said email me at ( king_juggla@yahoo.com)

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 28, 2001 8:57 PM

i think tim burton and marilyn manson would make a wonderful team i will go see the movie if it does get made and incourage anyone who has a slightly different look on life to do the same. I think manson deserves peoples respect even if they don't believe in his views. thats all thanks.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 4, 2001 7:52 PM

Marilyn Manson would make an absoloutly PERFECT Willy Wonka. He has the personality to shine at the role.... Truly, an evil portrayal of Willy Wonka is what it's always been... people just have bad perceptions of evil. Willa Wonka was kind of a nut... Manson's kind of a nut... but in a good way... Manson is God (= I'm God! God is in all of us! FIRE!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 9, 2001 1:37 PM

Surely the whole point of Willy Wonka is not that he is evil, but just that he is eccentric with a dark side. How would he be so admired by the kids if he was some kind of monster? It is a dark SIDE, it is not always apparent. That's why Nick Cage would be better. Have you ever seen his older stuff? He's got the mad eyes for it.
Also, he's actually an actor, who will have the ability and experience to carry it off. As much as you all seem to admire MM, it doesn't appear that he's made any films before. I wonder how many studios would be prepared to finance a high budget film of this type with such a wildcard as the main pull?

wide

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 27, 2001 7:27 AM

Enough with the Bull S--- Christian-bashing.

Some of you close-minded bigots should start wearing swatzikas. Your attitudes are no different than the Nazi's attitudes toward Jews.

No Christian has ever done anything to hurt me. Plenty of non-Christians have, though.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 25, 2001 8:33 AM

christians are trying to destroy your freedom of speech and religion. i have nothing agaist christ, i'm sure he was a decent enough fellow, but i've seen the people who follow him and if that's all that's going to be in heaven, i'll feel much more confortable in hell.

as for the remake. ANYTHING tim burton does will be bad assed. forget manson, while i like his music and live shows, he shouldn't be the main focus of this. tim burton is a cinematic genius...no matter who portrays who he will not let it be a bad movie. besides, i think a twisted willy wonka would be sweet. if you don't like the idea of it, don't watch it. simple. or, in the case of the christians, if it turns out to be "evil" just try to ban it...god forbid we offend those rightous people.

RE: RE: point

Posted by VIVIsectVI (No Email) on June 28, 2001 7:52 PM

Christ is never mentioned in the original movie. However, if you like the idea of supporting a communist dictator with a slave workforce have at it.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 5, 2001 2:45 PM

I cannot believe they would remake this movie WITHOUT Gene Wilder. I have nothing against Manson. I believe in free expression, but COME ON! Willy Wonka WITHOUT Gene Wilder? What would a Young Frankenstein remake be without him? Nothing. His performances cannot be toppe.d

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 15, 2001 3:47 PM

You stupid bible-thumpers, I'd bet you'd be pretty pissed off if Rammstein re-did Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs, the fact is Willy Wonka is evil, he has been evil from the start and there is nothing you can f*cking do about it. Let Manson redo it, we need another version anyways. The only reason the original wasn't evil-looking was so that you Ku-Klux-Khristians wouldn't b*tch about it.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 27, 2001 10:16 AM

This whole thing is cracking me up....It seems to me that everyone has fallen into the "trap". Manson does what he does and acts how he acts to piss simple minds, like most of you, off. The fact that people are so mad at this ENTERTAINER, blows my mind. If he makes you so mad, then don't see the damn movie, don't listen to his music, and when he is on T.V. turn the damn thing off. You are all idiots!!! The man is a freak show, and that is what he wants AND THAT IS WHAT IS MAKING HIM RICH. So don't FUGGIN look if it bother's you enough that you have to call people who enjoy him FAGGOTS....I personally could care less either way, and think that he would be an excellent Wonka.....and am personally very excited to see what Burton and Manson can do together!

RE: RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 29, 2001 11:21 PM

Listen up. I'm not one of the average "groupies" on this website, and this is my only post, but I think I should grace people with a little bit of information. The actual book was written by Roald Dahl. Lesson 1 is, Roald Dahl was not your average happy go lucky childrent's writer. He was a really messed up guy. None of his writing projects daisys and tulips popping up out of the ground with the sun smiling and children laughing. Dahl mixes harsh reality. Maybe Wonka doesn't represent Satan. But he sure as hell isn't a kind, good hearted old man looking for someone to take over his chocolate factory. The origional movie should not even be a comparison for wonka, because it was written by someone else, and is rarely like the book. The movie was aimed stricly for children, and aimed to please and make kiddies wet themselves with rapture. I haven't read a Dahl story that has made me do that yet. In the book. There are several likenesses between wonka and satan. First off, look at the picture's of wonka. He's a short little guy with a goatee, and small, beady eyes. I half expected to see horns when he took his hat off the first time I read it. As for his personality, (this is getting way too long, so I'm through knocking with details, read the book) he's not kind. If he's not satan, or an associate, he's at least crazy.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 3, 2002 12:01 AM

I've seen tons of comments on this page, some legitimate, and others from people who seem to be extremely anal. As far as Manson playing Willy Wonka, I think it would be an interesting concept. For those of you who think he will ruin a classic, think of all the other movies that have been remade. The new release, Ocean's Eleven, is barely like it's original. We have seen remake after remake of movie. It's no different from when a band does a cover of another band's song. It's all just an interpretation. Maybe Manson will do a good job. Maybe he won't. But he ought to at least be given a chance to show his interpretation of a character that may or may not be evil. In any case, none of these posts will have the slightest effect on anything to do with the making of this movie. Makes me wonder why i even bothered to type this out in the first place. Probably because it's 2 am and i have nothing better to do.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 3, 2002 12:01 AM

I've seen tons of comments on this page, some legitimate, and others from people who seem to be extremely anal. As far as Manson playing Willy Wonka, I think it would be an interesting concept. For those of you who think he will ruin a classic, think of all the other movies that have been remade. The new release, Ocean's Eleven, is barely like it's original. We have seen remake after remake of movie. It's no different from when a band does a cover of another band's song. It's all just an interpretation. Maybe Manson will do a good job. Maybe he won't. But he ought to at least be given a chance to show his interpretation of a character that may or may not be evil. In any case, none of these posts will have the slightest effect on anything to do with the making of this movie. Makes me wonder why i even bothered to type this out in the first place. Probably because it's 2 am and i have nothing better to do.

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 30, 2001 6:38 PM

There's a lot of controversy on this board, and I'd like to post my opinion. Mason is a great artist, not just limiting him to music. I've seen paintings by him, and they are very good. His music is another VERY high point. I'm no freak, I'm not popular, i'm a christian, but not to the extreme as most of you think we are. In my point of view Wonka was a good character, at least in my childhood.I then watched the movie recently and saw it in a whole new light. It's about greed, gluttony, and all sorts of evils. Marilyn Manson is an exceptional choice to play Wonka, though the fun loving view of him from the original will be torn apart, and I don't mind. Manson reveals what Roald Dahl might have been implying when he wrote the book. And if you're going to insult me, don't waste the screen space, I don't read those little one liners that insult people because of their views on art, that's just childish!

RE: Marilyn Manson To Be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 19, 2002 3:39 PM

Heh, I think you guys need to read this;
http://wonka-is-satan.tripod.com/

Marilyn Manson to be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 2, 2002 11:27 AM

I think it's a riot! If Manson wants to get his paws into the movie business as well as music, who cares? his videos are more than unique, imagine what his movies will be like. i'd pay to see it in a theater!

Carrie Sue

RE: Marilyn Manson to be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 17, 2002 7:36 PM

gota love how all this tunrs so grusome.. manson is the damn best music performer ever.. he is damn smart and is an awesome actor... any one remember him from the wonder years? the nerdy kid? that was him.

So yeah he would kick ass in that role. as for this being real i have no clue.just my 2 cents..

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 17, 2002 7:41 PM

hey i noticed also this has gone into religion my views on that are ... CHRISTIANITY IS ALL BULL sh*t.as for god.. there isent one. kinda and people that put in 2 cents that are so pointless as 2 say some one is dumn what can be more stupid than that! any way theres just to much to argue here and it can go on forever.. some one wants to talk. email me or add me to msn
pure_insanity35@hotmail.com

RE: again me

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 22, 2003 2:30 PM

who do you know God doesn't exist? Have you died and come back to life with the message? You just can't tell...

it doesn't matter

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 20, 2002 7:40 PM

who plays the role is irrelevant. either the character is written as good or evil - the man reading the script won't change that. though i imagine a man who thrives on controversy would be well amused that anyone cares enough to debate it... myself included.

RE: it doesn't matter

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2002 2:23 PM

people people people, some say they dont like christians..please, what is so good about cuting your self , what is so good about acting dumb on stage what is so good about looking dead and wearing to much make up. Come on lol who ever said they hate christians prob donsent fill good about them self and wants to kill them self ..stop trying to hate on somthing you dont understand!!!

Manson to be Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 1, 2003 6:37 PM

please you guys, shut the f*ck up, lets just say.. manson is a freak but let him be just the way he is, if he wants to act that way, then he can, i guess he prolly thinks of himself as a "unique individual" i think you should let ppl have the freedom to speak there mind. would you like it if other ppl dissed you just because of how you are? im not on god's side, christian's side, atheist's side, goth's side, marilyn's side, w/e side! dude im just nuetral. but really think about what i just said. ~Emily~

WILLY WANKA

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 23, 2003 12:19 PM

why cant hollywood leave movies alone. this is a perfect movie the way it is. stop screwing everythign up. i grew up with gene wilder playing the part, hes the only one... IF THEY MAKE THIS MOVIE I WILL NOT SEE IT AND I WILL BOYCOTT IT TOO....

:::sighs:::

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 4, 2003 9:22 AM

people, first off, Tim Burton is not doing a remake, he's doing CHARLIE and the Chocolate Factory. Second, Manson was wanting to do the role, yet cannot do to him in a interview on the radio talking about how it will mess kids up.

Marilyn Manson

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 19, 2003 6:09 PM

i am a huge fan of film and even wish to be a writer/director and as far as im concerned manson is a genius some people see what they want to see they see wonka as an innocent man and i love how manson said that he sees manson as satan manson is so great at seeing the truth and personally i love tim burton also and will be first in line to see this movie.

You Guys...

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 1:37 PM

A couple of guys here need to wise up.
A few of you are having a go at us Christians - why? Come to think of it, why has that any real significance to the subject?
Secondly, Dahl was a CHILDREN'S WRITER - meaning he wrote for CHILDREN. Correct me if I am wrong, but not a lot of children's writers go around writing about "slaves" and "Satan" do they? You're all just twisting a harmless childrens book? I was about five when I read it and it was my favourite. Lay off.

RE: You Guys...

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 1:40 PM

I agree. You guys are just screwing Dahls work coz you have feeble, sick minds. You're determined to find fault! Wisen UP!

RE: You Guys...

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2003 1:41 PM

Anyhoo, Marilyn Manson ain't gonna play Willy Wanka or whatever the hell his name is. Jonnny Depp is.

RE: You Guys...

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 3, 2003 6:03 PM

just to let you know... yes, Dahl was a children's book writer... but so was Dr.Seuss. and his stories were actually based on war, discrimination, and oher "evil" things. you don't know how it was written unless you wrote it.

RE: You Guys...

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 21, 2003 4:05 PM

Aaah. But one must wonder whether or not Suess's books were FOR or AGAINST the 'evil' issues he wrote about. Take it all into account.

Johnnys the Man

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 25, 2003 8:42 PM

Thank You finally some one steped up!! OF Course Johnny Depp is going to play the part he the man!!!!

mmmmmmmmm Manson

Posted by Lydia Lee (No Email) on September 1, 2003 4:40 PM

well, well, well. i see many strongly oppose Manson, but i feel he will be one of the best to play Wonka, as i have seen it, Wonka was pretty creepily offbeat to begin with. Sorry bubs, i stick with the devil's spawn himself.

marilyn manson to be willy wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 22, 2003 8:36 PM

im totally psyched for manson to be willy wonka. i love this movie so much. and i love manson very much too. i cant wait to see manson in his suit and tophat singing. this will be a truely amazing event!

Depp would give part to Manson

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 2, 2003 6:32 AM

This was found on Marilyn Mansons website.
But I have to say, given Mansons taste for flair and entertainment, I think he would be perfect in the role of Willy Wonka. That's just my .02

Johnny Depp speaks on Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory remake
Johnny Depp is keen to take on the lead role in Tim Burtons's, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake, but he'll happily step aside if rocker Marilyn Manson wants the part.

Manson and Depp are the only names in the running to recreate the beloved ROALD DAHL eccentric, and Depp admits the rocker would be the perfect Wonka.

He says, "It's an exciting possibility for me to go back and do another film with Tim. It would be a ball. I'll keep all my digits crossed, as it were.

"That said, I'd go and see Manson as Willy Wonka. I'd go and see him in anything."

he'll make a great wonka!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 3, 2003 8:07 AM

it's just a different perspective (which i personally agree with...). everyone needs to chill. if you don't think it's right, then don't watch the movie! really easy to figure out, no?
and he'll be beautiful. as always ^.^

manson rocks

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 6, 2003 6:45 PM

i think manson would be so kool i hope he does it and not johhny

manson vs johhny

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 6, 2003 6:51 PM

i want manson to do it but because johhny has been in 3 of him movies already i bet he will get it but the thought of manson doing is sweet

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 17, 2003 9:39 PM

how many random shemps 'are' there here? and you're all too opinionated. an actor is making a movie with a director. end of story. wooooh lets rave and swear at poeple who share different views. oh please..

People People! Calm down!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 21, 2003 4:02 PM

I've read all the posts on this board, and I'd just like to post my own opinion.

Marilyn Manson probably would have done a simply excellent job - but Johnny Depp is getting the role.

What's with insulting the Christians? I myself am a Christian and I cannot see why you are insulting us as a general group. There ARE some who actually might be nice given half a chance...hmm?

And lastly, please leave Roald Dahls works in peace. The man was a good writer, no doubt about it. The meaning of what he wrote was something HE understand, maybe he meant it so we weren't suppossed to understand.
Thank you.

RE: People People! Calm down!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 25, 2003 12:08 PM

Yur so right (plz don't tell me off 4 spellin. I'im dislesic)

willy wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 4, 2003 9:47 AM

hes right, Johnny depp got the role of willy himself, Mason is in it tho hes also producing it, and it coming from Warner Brothers garauntees all the FEW christions that are all against manson , that it wont be as bad as u think

Also Manson is a very strong Catholic... and has a degree or w/e in being a preacher

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2003 10:40 PM

you people who cant handle manson are probably all accountants or will likely grow up to be so. who are you to judge what art isn't? it is what it is. and i know it hurts when someone comes out and blatantly defies what our oppressed society deems to be normal, just because you will never have the courage or the individuality to do it yourselves.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 5, 2003 10:41 PM

you people who cant handle manson are probably all accountants or will likely grow up to be so. who are you to judge what art isn't? it is what it is. and i know it hurts when someone comes out and blatantly defies what our oppressed society deems to be normal, just because you will never have the courage or the individuality to do it yourselves.

People, people

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 7, 2003 8:17 AM

It's obvious that we all have one thing in common, we are impassioned by this whole concept of Willy Wanka and M.M. playing the part. I don't know why there is so much time and effort put into trivial bickering.

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 11, 2003 12:33 AM

LMAO THIS IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT I HAVE EVER READ...

I honestly would LOVE to see Manson as Wonka cause the movie is fucking dark as shit if you read into it.

With saying that, Johnny Depp would be very good as well, especially after seeing his performance in Pirates, he'll be excellent. Either way, as long as Tim Burton is directing its sure to be great.

KEEP UP THE HUMOUR... THIS IS HILARIOUS

STOP GENERALIZING!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 14, 2003 11:40 PM

For all of you who are bashing Christians, stop!Didn't you know that NOT all christians are extremley religeous, follow the bible to the slightest detail, and hate Manson? They are individual people too, although they blindly allow the bible to make a lot of decisions for them, they still have their own opinions.
p.s.:I think manson would make a great WW. Even as a child, I watched the original movie, and could sense that something wasn't quite right with Mr.Wonka, I believe he was supposed to be evil, and when the movie ended, and WW hadn't eaten anyone, or poisoned anyone,(as I was expecting the whole time), I felt like I was being led into a false sense of security. I think MM would do a great job portraying WW, and hey, even if he doesn't, Johnny Depp's really hot too.Also, for all those dumbasses who are calling everyone freaks, keep it up. Everyone's a freak to some extent, wether you would like to admit it or not, and I encourage it, that's what makes everyone an individual, or at least a little bit more interesting.And yeah, it is really funny if you read it all the way through, keep it going!

manson as willy wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 20, 2004 9:35 PM

i think marilyn will make the perfect willy wonka ... he is intellegent, and has a great look for the part (hot in my opinion) to me i think willy wonka portrays a man who is "different" and not afraid to be ... cleaver whitty and charming ... so what else does that spell other then MARILYN MANSON!!!!

ITS NOT FOR SURE!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 23, 2004 8:24 AM

THIS STORY IS FALSE BECAUSE, MARILYN MANSON DOESNT HAVE THE PART FOR SURE, JOHNNY DEPP ALSO GOT OFFERED THE PART TO BE WILLY WANKA AND I THINK HE WILL TAKE IT. NO OFFENSE TO MARILYN FANS BUT JOHNNY WOULD DO MUCH BETTER AS WILLY

RE: ITS NOT FOR SURE!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2004 7:28 PM

OK!!! ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!

Johnny Depp has got the part... and no doubt he will be fabulous in it! (Just look at pirates of the carribean!).

However, I am severely disappointed that Manson is not getting this part as he is my favourite musician and my favourite PERFORMANCE ARTIST. His image is one thing, and I love his twisted but realist views... And his music also rules and he has major talent in music production. Sure his voice isn't sweet or a particulary good one... but its real and human and we can all relate to it... just like his songs.

I think that perhaps the movie needed Manson
's fresh creative ideas because I certainly believe a movie where Wonka is slightly demented and evil would be a very interesting one... I think that Manson has very gripping personality that would really be great...

So, in conclusion:
Marilyn Manson rules!
Johnny Depp rules! (And he has got the part)
Christians are generally blind followers
Anyone who hates Manson or thinks he is an attention seeker is ignorant.
Marilyn Manson wears the make up and does the things he does for
PERFORMANCE ART... He IS playing characters in his albums... (Omega :D) But yeh... read a little about him and then listen to some of his songs (His new album rules! along with Mechanical Animals... Holy Wood is really good too...)

Thank you
Brett

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 10:49 AM

I believe this will be a movie you won't forget. Manson will either make it or break it. I think his style and sence of morbid reality is perfectly acceptable. We've already gone so far, why not go all the way.

they are all rumors

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 24, 2004 1:19 PM

It is all rumor nothing has been established yet. No one knows whos going to portray Wonka because Tim Burton doesn't know who is going to be Wonka. For all we know it could be Manson, Johnny Depp, Jim Carey or Julie Roberts so stop assuming stuff. And besides nobody can pull of Wonka like Gene Wilder.

Marlyn Manson as Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 7, 2004 5:06 PM

Although manson is undoubtedly a talented person, i think it would be a bad idea for manson to play a role like this. Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is a kids story and manson has never been an entertainer to kids. Dont get me wrong, I highly admire and respect manson for his talents but i think everyone would agree that they dont want to see the "Anti-Christ Super Star" playing the role of Willy Wonka.

Willy Wonka

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 26, 2004 8:14 PM

Why Would they let MM be willy wonka that is just crazy that movie was ment for kids not satan and his demons although MM is A great artist thats just stupid

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