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 Napster Goes Bye Bye
By Acheron on February 12, 2001 1:27 PM
(Fox News) In a court ruling earlier today, Napster was forced to shut down its music swapping service until the hearings determine the legitimacy of the service.
In a 58-page opinion, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Napster must prevent its users from accessing or swapping copyrighted content on its search index, and said Napster may be held liable for "vicarious copyright infringement" when it fails to patrol its system.
Millions of users had flooded the company's computer servers this past weekend to download free music, fearing an immediate shutdown of the service that has changed the face of music. Napster has an estimated 50 million users.
Major record labels hope Monday's ruling will force millions of computer users to pay for music the online music swapping service has allowed them to get for free.
Well Napster's shut down. Inconvenient, yes, but hardly a brick wall. There are plenty of alternative services that are not controllable.
Check out the following:
LimeWire
Gnutella - find various Gnutella Flavors
MyNapster - find alternative Napster-ish applications
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2001 11:45 AM
Awwwwww sheeeeeeit.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 18, 2001 1:04 AM
maybe you should get your facts straight before posting your news because napster is not shut down, and they will not be shutting down for a while.
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Posted by nstraps (go@away.com) on February 12, 2001 1:30 PM
Good riddance.
I liked the days where the only good place to find MP3s was to go on IRC to find a Fserv. Now that MP3 has gone mainstream, just as I had predicted, it will go to sh*t because of the media and the music industry.
Why is it when good things come about, they are killed by popular media???
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2001 1:45 PM
yeah but for technology to advance quickly you need backers. And they can't all be techies. mIRC is nice for the people that have time to go through the servers and find good passwords/etc...but for those that want quick, reliable access to files, Napster, et. al, are the way to go. If there was no Napster, then we could very well still be without the P2P technology that we have today. If you involve the masses in something, future R&D; will happen a lot quicker, and that's what we saw here. So what if Napster gets shut down. In time you'll have to pay for it anyways. You can still use mIRC. You can still use NewsBin. You can still use Gnutella. There are other options, so use the one that you like the most. But don't start blaming the masses for the downfall of a pretty good idea.
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Posted by nstraps (go@away.com) on February 12, 2001 1:51 PM
But it IS the masses fault. It's only known to the media because of heavy usage by people.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2001 2:45 PM
#1) The service is NOT shutdown yet. Or for good for that matter. The ruling was about the legality of an injunction order which is quite a bit different that a ruling on copyright infringement.
#2) IMESH is pretty good for an alternative. It can be a bit slow, but you have access to a bunch of stuff other than just MP3s.
#3) For a ton of info about all of this check out http://www.zeropaid.com
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 12, 2001 9:27 PM
i don't see the big issue with napster, anyway...
it's a great way to promote new music and let listeners discover new songs and bands they may never have had previous access to. i for one have found some great bands on napster and then purchased their cd. but even then, the artist sees very little of the profits from those cds anyway. why should they be so against napster?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2001 1:35 AM
It is too bad that corporate greed has to destroy a good thing. But I promise you this, they will never see one red dime from me. The thought of paying for an MP3 makes me laugh. There are many alternatives to napster, it will just be a little bit inconvenient
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2001 6:02 AM
As Stetsasonic the Jazz Hip Hop band once said about sampling, "You might even get hurt my friend!
-The Hip Hop Community, and Rappers everywhere!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 13, 2001 3:53 PM
Napster was just the beginning. It was a buggy look into the future. Soon we'll be trading perfect quality music at lightspeed all around the planet, all without any kind of server or central organization. We may not be able to manage a fair election, but we *will* manage free trade of music.
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Posted by music-vibr8ions (music-vibr8ions@home.com) on February 14, 2001 6:28 AM
As a mother of two, I will miss napster. I could listen to the trash my children wanted to buy and decide if it would be appropriate or not. I have purchased more music since using napster because I could hear the new music and determine what I want to buy. Please think twice about closing napster. I will miss it. I will get music from friends, and will think twice about purchasing any cd's.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 14, 2001 10:07 AM
Well, you asked so nicely, so I'll reconsider closing Napster. I'll let you know later today what I decide. Contributions to my Swiss account my help to influence my decision in your favor.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 14, 2001 9:06 PM
Hee hee
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RE: Napster Goes Bye Bye..NOT!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2001 1:57 PM
As the details of the recent Ninth Circuit Court ruling unfold, please keep this is mind: Napster is not shut down, but under this decision it could be. We are very disappointed in this ruling by the three judge panel and will seek appellate review. The Court today ruled on the basis of what it recognized was an incomplete record before it. We look forward to getting more facts into the record. We will pursue every avenue in the courts and the Congress to keep Napster operating.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 16, 2001 6:12 PM
THIS IS SH*T!!! they just can't say BYEBYE to something that is this huge!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 19, 2001 10:03 AM
It depends on how you look at it. A few servers serving the entire system isn't "huge".
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Posted by LANCEPRINCESS21 (LANCEPRINCESS21@CS.COM) on February 19, 2001 9:23 PM
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SHOULD COOL IT. FOR ONE THING IF THEY WEREN'T CHARGING $17-20 FOR A CD THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALSO IF THE NAPSTER COMMUNITY WANTS TO SHARE OUR MUSIC WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ISN'T THAT OUR PERSONAL BUSINESS.THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS GOING AGAINST OUR RIGHTS AS HUMANS & AMERICAINS. I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHARE MY MUSIC WITH WHO I WANT WHEN I WANT.
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