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Topic: Film Early SNEAK REVIEW: Stone's WORLD TRADE CENTER Sucks It?!
By Wind(up)bird on June 17, 2006 5:45 PM

Aintitcool has posted an early look at Oliver Stone's 9/11 schlock-fest, World Trade Center.  Short story; it sounds damn bad (a second glance at the trailer backs this up ten-fold).  The flick stars Nicholas Cage as a do-good cop trapped under rubble and is due to open this September or October.  Want to watch something about 9/11 that will truly fuck with you?  Watch Loose Change for free right now.

Read the World Trader Center Early Sneak Review now.

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 D is for Dumb   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 18, 2006 8:42 AM

What the fuck were you thinking when you posted this windup bird? I mean this is a prominent website and you go making it look childish with all those errors in the post, it was almost unreadable. One loses the focus of the article because they are too busy counting the errors you made.

 RE: D is for Dumb   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 19, 2006 1:36 PM

Loose change is an idea that someone came up with that is ridiculous and just trying to get attention.  Most of the evidence for that video was made up and created specifically for that video.  And do you REALLY think that the government is covering it all up?  No, impossible.  It woulda leaked through years ago and been ALL over the news.

 RE: D is for Dumb   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 19, 2006 1:37 PM

By evidence, i mean the articles and the websites they cite.

 RE: D is for Dumb   > reply 
Posted by Loath (loath@dtheatre.com) on June 21, 2006 12:17 PM

Cleaned it up a little.

 what a load of!   > reply 
Posted by angel_louieuk (angel_louieuk@btinternet.com) on June 22, 2006 8:20 AM

I was really upset by what happened on 9/11, a girl I know lost her uncle that day.
To even suggest that the government would do that to its own people is disgusting and all these conspiracy theories do absolutely nothing for the families of victims.
World Trade Center looked like a moving film, especially with Nicholas Cage in the lead role as you can't help but like the guy in whatever he does.
Those of you who aren't interested in what happened that day or don't like slushy movies avoid it, cos for those of us who do it looks real good.

 Loose change is crap   > reply 
Posted by sKillBot (travis@pulley.org) on June 23, 2006 3:27 AM

I watched most of loose change and was very disappointed. First of all, the narrator sucks. He needs to get a good night's rest before falling asleep on the microphone he's slouched over.

Secondly, some of the 'facts' are the kinds of things that make me cringe when the narrator  can't rub two neurons together to figure out that something's inaccurate. For instance:
"in 1945, a b-52 crashed into the empire state building" wtf!? for the record it was a b-25, but seriously... He then goes on to compare the fire from that to the wtc and uses this as evidence that there was some kind of bomb in addition to the plane crashes.

What a crock of sh1t! The empire state building pushed the limits of classic steel grid frame design, whereas The wtc towers were like tubes that joined the core to the outside by trusses that weakened in the fire.
This is dumber than fox news covering the "other side" of the global warming "debate".

The #7 bldg was interesting though, and he said it was used to store records for ongoing investigations into wall street crime. What he didn't say was that building collapsed due to a design flaw that was exploited by the fire that burned for 7 hours while fire crews focused on rescue efforts. It burned after it was evacuated, so no one was killed there. The design flaw was a system of hacks to build the thing over an existing power substation. But a new building has gone up in its place, and it's designed to be hugely safe and fire resistant.


 Hate Me Or Like Me...   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 26, 2006 4:57 AM

Come on guys, ignorance of the people is why this stuff is now a reality.

Hitler did the same thing to get Germany behind him so he could get what he wanted accomplished. He also burned the rich Stag parliment building, & blamed the disaster on his pre-targeted (innocent) victims.

If you don't believe it, ask any German. They'll tell you that dejavu is in the air.

Where is flight 93?... because it did not crash in pensilvania, or hit the pentagon.

The people who made the calls from the plane were not passengers, but could only be FAKED by the CIA... because FLIGHT 93 LANDED AT HOPKINS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN CLEAVLAND OHIO AT 11.43 AM UNDER A BOMB SCARE. The plane is back on the runways, but secret for some "duhh" strange reason. It's a consiracy guys. Wake up.

It's all about Drugs, Sex, money.
Why is it, that all of the past CIA directors were, & still are, major bankers from wall street?

If you doubt the fact that bush is a Eulogian Mason (above the 33rd), then I guess you may also doubt the  fact that there are also higher degrees above the 33rd.

Just to let you know what the 33rd is all about... a skull in the right hand halfed with wine, you swear to destroy all religion (pause-drink), government (pause-drink), & all organised law.

You can take that to the bank.

 RE: what a load of!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 27, 2006 12:52 AM

I thought it was the coolest thing ever to happen in my young life. Seeing all that great firework and people jumping out of windows was awesome! I immediately knew those dumbass towers would collapse. What idiot would even build large pointless structures like that, hahaha.

 RE: what a load of!   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 28, 2006 12:17 AM

You said it, Americans are dumbasses.

 Re; What a load of....   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 30, 2006 12:47 PM

Don't forget.  You can't make cell phone calls from airplanes flying over 3000 feet.
Ooooops!!  And don't tell me they were flying under 3000 ft. the whole time.  Flight 175 disappeared at 34,000 ft. yet, somehow, people made cell phone calls!!  Airfone calls - yes.  Cell phone calls - impossible.

 RE: Re; What a load of....   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 30, 2006 12:48 PM

Sorry - that was Flight 93 that was flying at 34,000 ft. - not 175.

 RE: Re; What a load of....   > reply 
Posted by DARTH CRIMSON (haha@yeahright.lol) on June 30, 2006 1:53 PM

You guys can believe all you want, but consider this:
do you REALLY think that in today's day and age that the government could execute such an attack and not have the news find out and harp all over it?  If "Loose Change" were true, it'd be all over every news channel and people would overthrow the government.  I find that most people who support Loose Change are angry Liberals who hate George Bush an d want to find ANYTHING they can to try and get him out of the white house.  The points that Dylan Avery makes in Loose Change aren't even valid.  Planes don't run on strictly kerosene for fuel, and the official explanation for the collapse of the Towers WAS NOT a fire.  It did not MELT the steel, it simply weakened it and the floors sagged.  
Other points that Mr. Avery points out are the windows that are "completely intact" at the pentagon.  Funny, they look pretty broken to me, but also, remember that the Pentagon was build to stay up despite an airplane attack.  Which leads me to this: In the video, Mr. Avery says that the towers were built to withstand collapse from a plane.  This is laughable.  The structures were built so that if a plane were to hit them, they would not just fall over like a stack of blocks, but rather would stay up (in addition to not blowing in the wind, or falling over in heavy storm.)  
As for the explosions that are allegedly bombs set in there, think about it: there were hundreds of countless devices inside there that would explode if debris were to fall on them: heaters, microwaves, computers, any heavy electronics etc.  
Lastly, Avery talksa bout buildings that burned for hours never fell.  OK, true, but the fires were not NEARLY as hot as the fires in WTC.
Personally I don't care what most people think about this, because they are full of hate and ignorance.

 RE: Re; What a load of....   > reply 
Posted by DARTH CRIMSON (haha@yeahright.lol) on June 30, 2006 1:56 PM

Oh and one more thing.  Most of the calls made in the airplane were made on an AIRFONE.  Dylan Avery even reads the script "mom, i'm calling you from an airfone." Then contradicts himself right after that. I watchted the video with an open mind, and he failed to convince me at all.  Anyone can take ANY event and pick out a number of coincidental and odd things and draw similar conclusions

 RE: D is for Dumb   > reply 
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 10, 2006 12:02 AM

IT DOESNT MATTER BOUT THE ERRORS OF TIS PAGE IDIOT IT MATTERS ABOUT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER STUPID!!! EVERYONE ALWAYS WILL CARE BOUT 9 11 BUT I SEE U WONT SO UR CRAP!


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