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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 26, 2006 7:11 PM
There will be no end to it. Eventually, Rocky will be in a rest home and get into a scrape with former boxer Carl Weathers who just happens to be in the same Sunset Village setting. Unfortunately, Balboa has been punched around so many times that his brain has been affected. He knows he still wants to box, but can't remember why. In steps Weathers, and the fight is on over who gets to watch TV that night in the group room. Banging into one another with their wheel chairs they are unable to do much damage. Eventually, the two of them are injected with enough Thorazine to kill a horse, and all ends well.
Hopefully, this will be the end of the sad legacy of crap that will serve as Stallone's obit, save the Rambo disasters. Perhaps a more fitting example would be for him to end his life at the rest home, using every last ounce of strength to pull back the specialized bow and shoot himself in the heart, taking Weathers with him.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 27, 2006 9:53 AM
The Rocky films 1 through 4 are cinematic gold. Fuck all you haters, I hope nobody goes to see it because at least then I wont have a load of morons spoiling the movie for me.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2006 4:34 PM
Agreed, but Rocky V, c'mon, at best it was a steaming pile of platapuss shit. When an actor does not realize he's become a joke due to his repeating roles its a bad sign. Stallone should find his place as a postion player. His days of headlining are over, and there's no shame in that.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 4, 2006 10:14 AM
Rocky V was shit because the closest he came to actually fighting was that crappy brawl in the street at the end.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2006 4:16 PM
Rocky does not fight, he boxes, and his ring is in the street. After the movie completed filming Stallone masturbated on his sons back in the trailer and was supposedly caught by one of the producers who vowed he'd never act again. True story.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2006 4:36 PM
u guys r gay...fucking Stallone is the man, and i dont care if Rocky 5 wasnt great it was still good. And i cant wait for rocky 6. It will be the first time our gen. can watch a rocky movie in theatres. I cant wait till december. ill be there opening night. So fuck all u douchebags
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2006 7:03 PM
I agree with the last guy.I believe Rocky is a legend and Sly is one of the best actors.
Greek man speeking :)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 13, 2006 10:57 AM
Rocky V never had a chance. The collective disappointment over Rocky IV was too potent to allow another sequel a fair glimpse, especially since it was released so closely after that disappointment resonated. The response and general investment in the Rocky saga was basically deflated by the time Rocky V came around, and that unfortunate truth is why it was unfairly plagued. The fifth film in the Rocky saga is unlike anything we’ve seen in movies in some time. The movie is a fascinating, if incomplete adventure that is sorely affected by its surprising unevenness, yet somehow remains spectacular and worthy. Most unnerving is how its flaws are unquestionable evidence that the rumors of Stallone reconstructing the film to please a wider audience are true. This unsavory truth is more frustrating than the worst flaw in any of the movies simply because it feels like none of us have truly seen the complete, absolute vision that the Sly initially created. Nothing is more irking and depressing than watching the flaws of Rocky V and wondering what it really was. And that unpleasantness is punctuated by the fact that so much of the movie is astounding visual and thematic storytelling done with such intensity and passion that you can’t help but enjoy it. When Rocky V works, it is undeniably astonishing. So astonishing, in fact, that it still challenges Rocky IV, III, II, and even the original in certain places. Rocky V was poised to be the epic of the saga, but what it lacks unfortunately kept it away from that accomplishment. As released in theaters, Rocky V works effectively as an enormous adventure, while concluding the philosophical thematic content on a particularly strong note. Many of Rocky IV's faults are still apparent, like certain choices with specific characters and unnecessary subplots, but the main focus is much smoother and concise, not to mention thoroughly entertaining. The narrative is taut and tense in Rocky V, and leaves a considerable amount of interpretation to its audience. Which is not to say Rocky V has no answers for the many questions proposed by its predecessor. One of the epic misunderstandings and downright bewilderments of this final chapter is how surprisingly unsatisfied audiences were by its supposedly ambiguous nature. Rocky V is indeed a conclusion to the story, and a conclusion that answers every single question posed by its two formers through imagery and sub-text, while raising even more complex and universal questions for the viewer to explore. More than any other film in recent memory, Rocky V is a momentous achievement of visual metaphor and thematic symbolism, beautifully intertwined for a strikingly poignant finish to a massively accomplished anthology.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2006 6:29 AM
He whipped Joe Lewis' ass!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2006 1:30 PM
Nice comment Jackass its obvious that you are not a boxer and have never stepped foot in a ring. rocky V was about the falling out of a champ. Returning to what he had been fighting to get away from. And yes he was a brawler you didn't pay much attention to Rocky one. So unless you are making millions and banging a hot chick like SLY is shut you faggot mouth
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Doesn't matter He's rich
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2006 1:32 PM
You can say what you want about 5 because if had its original ending it would have been better. In the beginning he was going to die in 5, but they changed it less than a month of completion. The fact is that SLY is a damn genious and rich and he could have anyone one of yours or my girlfriends so just shut up you know you will go see it or just rent it and beat off to it in your moms basement FAGS!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 15, 2006 4:14 PM
Dude, I banged your mom last night... Oh yeah! I went there!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2006 9:11 AM
Rocky I - great movie, great plot
Rocky II - so so movie
Rocky III - the ludicrous storylines begin, with the street plugger learning how to box properly, but hey how can you not love Mr T and the fight with THUNDERLIPS in that movie
Rocky IV - someone who could hit that hard will shatter bones on contact, so Rocky can lift weights and run through the snow all he wants, he's dead by the 3rd round. And the Russian crowd cheering for him? OMFG "USA! USA!!" - get over yourselves the rest of the world really doesn't think you rock.
Rocky V - best actual thought out plot since Rocky I, just badly executed and cast; use an experienced kid actor to play your son, get a better actor for the "Don King" guy and for Tommy Morrisons character and that could have been a great movie, and Sly's original wish (that he dies in the ambulance on the way to the hospital after the streetfight that the studio forced him to change) would have been the proper end to the movie and the series.
Rocky VI - Hey I'll be 1st in line to go see it but I'll be amazed if it doesn't suck.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2006 6:32 PM
Everyone says Rocky IV was shit but we still all secretly love it, what about the Eye of the Tiger montage with new lyrics??
Two worlds collide, rival nations
It's a primitive clash, venting years of frustrations
Bravely we hope against all hope, there is so much at stake
Seems our freedom's up against the ropes
Does the crowd understand?
Is it a East vs. West, or man against man
Can any nation stand alone?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2006 7:28 AM
YES! I HAVE SEEN ALL 5 ROCKY MOVIES. YES I ENJOYED THEM. DOES THAT MAKE ME A BAD GUY? NO! I THINK EVERYONE IS ENTITLE TO THEIR OPINIONS WHICH IS WHY I AM GIVING MINE WITH HOPES OF NOT GETTING BACKLASH.
I WATCH THE ROCKY SERIES, NOT BECAUSE OF THE FIGHTING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE STORYLINE WHICH CARRIED FROM ROCKY 1 TO 5. IT TELLS THE STORY OF A DOWN ON HIS LUCK, NO NAME BOXER, WHO MAKES IT BIG. BUT ALSO SHOWS HOW YOU CAN LOSE EVERYTHING. ITS LIFE PEOPLE! THE ROLLERCOASTER OF A RIDE WE ALL HAVE IN OUR LIVES AND HOW YOU CAN LOSE EVERYTHING BUT STILL IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP WHEN YOU ARE KNOCKED DOWN.
I AM RAMBLING I KNOW, BUT I CAN NOT WAIT FOR ROCKY 6, WHICH I THINK WILL BE THE FINAL. WE FOLLOWED THE LIFE OF A BOXER FROM ROCKY 1 - 5. WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT ENDS AND IF YOU DON'T EXPECT MUCH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL DON'T, THEN YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
ALSO, I HAVE TO SAY THAT FOR ALL WHO DOG THE ROCKY SERIES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO SEE THEM? THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN THE STORY THAT BRINGS YOU TO WATCH THE NEXT SERIES. I BET ALL WHO DOGGED ROCKY 5 WILL BE IN THE THEATRES OR AT LEAST WATCH IT WHEN THE DVD IS OUT. AND YES! YOU WILL DOG THIS ONE TOO!
THIS IS MY OPINION, LIKE YOU ALL HAVE ONE. I AM NOT GOING TO PRAISE THE ROCKY SERIES, BUT I WILL NOT DOG IT EITHER. THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINUS IN THE STORYLINE BUT I KEEP WANTING TO SEE THEM.
PLEASE RESPECT MY OPINION AS I HAVE YOURS. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT TIME.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 27, 2006 2:36 PM
i totally agree with the last guy. we all like rocky whether you admit it or not. you are going to see it anyways so quit talkin crap about it and just watch it and then once you see it, state your opinion.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 22, 2006 8:34 AM
sorry man but tommy morrison is just like tommy gunn in rocky 5 he sleeps with a woman but right now he has aids for sleepin with sooooooo much women in my opinion rocky 5 was good if tommy didn't have aids he would have been our next MIKE TYSON.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 22, 2006 8:39 AM
bull shit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 3, 2006 7:01 AM
I also agree, I grew up watching the Rocky movies and from a small child to a teenager I'd have to say not only did I enjoy the movies but I also was inspired by them. It may sound cheesy to you all but seeing what Rocky came from and what he became helped me to believe I could accomplish anything. When he lost it all it showed me that when life does throw you a curve that you need to remember what is important in life and that will get you through. Rocky 6 I am sure will not disappoint as far as life lessons and will hopefully be a great finish to a wonderful story.
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Rocky is good but not great
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 4, 2006 2:33 PM
They shouldn't have ever made Rocky 5. It was okay but it was kind of cheesy. It probably would have been better to watch Rocky and Tommy Gunn fight in th e ring. The reason why it wasn't that great was because Rocky never fought in the ring. Supposedly in Rocky 6, Rocky is gonna fight. So this should be better. Hopefully it ends with Rocky winning another championship.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 8, 2006 10:31 PM
"There will be no end to it. Eventually, Rocky will be in a rest home and get into a scrape with former boxer Carl Weathers who just happens to be in the same Sunset Village setting. Unfortunately, Balboa has been punched around so many times that his brain has been affected. He knows he still wants to box, but can't remember why. In steps Weathers, and the fight is on over who gets to watch TV that night in the group room.."
Gee, this would almost be funny if not for the fact that Carl Weathers character(his name in the movie was Appolo Creed by the way)died in Rocky IV.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 9, 2006 6:13 PM
I say the company lets Balboa die in this movie, like he should've in number 5. I do have to say I am a huge Rocky fan, but they have dragged the series on a bit too long, however I will be first in line to see Rocky 6!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 27, 2006 5:19 AM
These are probably the most absurd comments I have ever read about Rocky.
All 5 are cinematic masterpieces that each offer a unique flavor and twist in the world of Rocky.
Rocky 5 I believe is the best one. Dying in the ambulance.. it possibly could've been a better ending.
Rocky IV, not too much story, killing off Apollo was the only option to really get that movie jump started. And its true, most of you regardless of what you say like this one the best.
Rocky III. Mr. T was good, and was unknown at the time so his short lines and bursts of anger was a good change of challengers for Rocky.
Rocky 1 and II, virtually one huge story. Simply magnificent.
The series has not been dragged on too long, I actually couldn't be more ecstatic that they're doing a 6th. Anyone who bad mouths Rocky hasn't first of all, given the movies on their own merit a legitimate chance, and second, are not thinking outside the box. Rocky is not about a boxer going in and out of the ring, its about a man's life.
You people are pathetic, your arguments are weak and I recommend you watch the movies again.
P.S- yes Rocky IV was USA all the way (I'm Canadian) but the issue he was addressing was the conflict between USSR and USA and Stallone was able to address it in a well thought out matter by using 2 boxers, one happening to be Rocky Balboa.
Think outside the box.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2006 1:16 PM
Hah. That "childish actor" WAS his son in real life.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0821739/
Ya shouldn't knock someone without knowing the facts.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2006 4:52 PM
Yo Im with u
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2006 6:10 PM
On a episode of Off the record with mike Landsburgh, this guy a hiphop promoter in his early 30'ish was saying how stupid some hockey player looked (after getting rocked with a huge elbow)was trying to get up but was having obvious trouble doing so. Wich brings me to my point,Rocky and the movies in general are all about heart, wich most people lack and dont understand. The Rocky haters are that guy who would talk smack on a show about someone showing some balls.Loved the first 5 bring on 6.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2006 6:48 PM
Now this came as a surprise to me, Sly's real-life son not playing Rocky's son in Rocky 6. Any ideas as to why that never panned out?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 27, 2006 10:39 AM
http://www.watchermagazine.com/wp-content/wp-photos/RockyXXXVIII.jpg
THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS: Rocky 6 opens with rocky the owner of a small cafe in philly. Adrian has died several a few years prior and he has a new love interest a waitress at his cafe.
If you are familiar with the first rocky movie the waitress is the girl he walks home and he tells her not to act like a whore. They never really explain how rocky doesn't have to brain damage from rocky 5 that prevented him for ever begin able to pass a physical to fight again. he gets a few small fight and the Duke comes looking for him for the big payday fight against Dixon. The curret champ (who apparently beat Tommy Gunn in a rematch). Rocky is convined to fight again after seeking adrians advice at her grave site. But he doesn't win the fight he just goes the distance reminicient of the first Rocky.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 28, 2006 7:39 PM
Who wants to suck cock?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 5, 2006 10:48 AM
you are right. rocky is sweet. All of those assholes saying different wouldnt say that to his face because he would knock their teeth down their throats.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 11, 2006 1:01 PM
Carl Weathers character is dead there champ
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 23, 2006 1:22 PM
OK U MUST NOT HAVE SEEN WHAT GTYSON DID TO TOMMY THE DUKE, IDIOT...AND UR SUCH AN ASSHOLE, TOMMY DIED IN REAL LIFE(GOD BLESS HIS SOUL)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 23, 2006 1:27 PM
SLY IS A GENIUS, WE ALL KNOW THAT, IF HE CAM OUT WITH A ROCKY 7,8,AND9...WE WOULD ALL SEE THEM WEATHER ITS FOR GOOD OR BAD REASONS...SO STOP INSULTING THE MAN, IM SURE HE DOESNT CARE WHAT U THINK OF HIM OR HIS MOVIES, HE KNOWS WE R STILL GONNA GO SEE THEM ANYWAY...SO IN ACTUALLITY WHOS THE IDIOT NOW??? SLY? OR US?? DUMBASSES.... REMEMBER "HATE= FREE PROMOTION" SO IM SURE SLY LOVES THE HATE...
AS A MATTER FACT IM GONNA WATCH MY ROCKY COLLECTION RITE NOW..LOL
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 25, 2006 12:11 PM
You guys suck. Its one of the great if not the greatest underdog story of all time give him a break!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 25, 2006 12:25 PM
The only thing sillier than another Rocky movie is a dude who would go to the trouble of posting such a serious critique of a movie franchise that was never suppose to be taken particularly seriously. A club boxer could never have gone the distance with the heavy weight champion of the world. So right from the getgo Rocky has been a cartoon of a concept. But I don't see you anti-Rocky people complaining as hard about actual cartoon movies? Well that's all this is, a cartoon, and if some people get pleasure from watching Stallone play the character of Rocky, and if he's in good enough shape to pretend like he could box again, even at his age (remember, it's been a cartoon since the beginning, why stat being "logical" now?) then why don't you just let Rocky fans enjoy it and go pick a more serious film to act so seriously critical about?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 25, 2006 12:43 PM
The above post is correct. It's just a fun movie franchise that's suppose to help get you motivated to work out, or do whatever you do with more inspiration. An underdog movie, be it realistic or unrealistic.
Also, what's up with the guy talking about "dying in the ambulance" for Rocky 5? Huh? That didn't happen.
Here's the breakdown of the Rocky moview, people:
Rocky 1: A truly quality movie because it was so low budget, the actors were unknown, the director was unknown, and everyone was taking a risk. That's what helped it have the magic it did, similar with most art, when it's raw and fresh and the artist is STILL POOR, that's when the art is great. Once Stallone got rich he could NEVER re-capture the essence and feeling of Rocky 1.
Rocky 2 was a cute continuation of Rocky 1, but some of the magic wasn't there since all the actors and director had already been successful with Rocky 1.
Rocky 3 was a cute, cheesy, 80s movie. If you can't get a kick out of watching this movie purely based on the "80s-ness" of it, you're missing the point. You're suppose to laugh at "thunderlips" (what a name) and "clubber lang," and you're suppose to be light hearted about it. Was it a quality movie like the first one? Of course not, but it was nonetheless a fun Rocky sequel with plenty of "80s-ness" to enjoy.
Rocky 4 was when it REALLY started going downhill. If most Rocky fans think Rocky 4 is the best, the reason for this is simple: the people making this judgment are both immature (childish, boyish) and have no understanding of what actually makes a quality film. If Rocky 4 was your favorite Rocky movie, you probably like action packed movies, patriotic movies, stuff like that (not what I would call a mature person or knowledgeable film critique). Who was the guy above talking about thinking outside the box about Rocky 4, and that the cold war was symbolized by these two boxers? Hello? Are you literally retarded? You are correct that the cold war was being symbolized by these two boxers, what's amazing to me is that you think that's actually a smart or worthy concept. Symbolizing the cold war with two boxers, one of which is the beloved Rocky fighting for America, the other of which is this emotionless, inhuman, killing machine (who uses steroids) then what you have is about the most childish, cheesy, ridiculous, absurd representation of the cold war you could possibly have. So that movie is not about thinking outside the box, it's about thinking like an 8 year old and trying to put something as complex as the cold war into simple childish, cartoonish little terms. Rocky 4 was absolutely ridiculous, although I did enjoy the training montague in Russia. (Rocky training montagues help me get inspired to work out.)
Rocky 5 was such an embarrasing joke for anyone who considers himself a Rocky fan, that I need not even comment here. Who thought of the plot for Rocky 5, and why weren't they fired? There was no in the ring boxing match, and there was NO TRAINING montague. WHAT? A Rocky film without a training montague??? Training montagues are what MAKE ROCKY MOVIES!!! You got to give them a break about the plot, I mean, after you fight someone who can KILL ANOTHER BOXER WITH HIS HANDS, where is there to go from there? Who do you fight next?
Rocky 6, since it's taking place 16 years after the last one, actually has the opportunity to have a unique Rocky plot, that is, he's old, has calcium deposits, no speed, so he needs to overcome the odds to fight a tough opponent again. It's a classic Rocky plot. Is it realistic? Obviously not. Rocky 1 wasn't realistic either, yet it RIGHTFULLY won best picture when it came out. Good films are not about being realistic, necesarily. Having said that, I do expect Rocky 6 to be sort of dumb, yet I am a die hard Rocky fan (despite silliness of Rocky 4 and the outright embarrasment of Rocky 5) so I will see it. Im sure they woke up and put a training montague in it, so let's hope that's an inspiring montague!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 26, 2006 6:53 PM
Rocky is greatesat film of all time
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 31, 2006 5:00 AM
DONT BULLSHIT U SAD PRICK. STALLONE IS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN U LOSERS WILL EVER BE SO IN FUTURE KEEP ALL YA MOUTHS SHUT TO SAVE EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 4, 2006 5:23 PM
i cant wait 4 rocky 6 either if u dont like it dont fuckin watch it and stop bein a cunt
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 6, 2006 8:23 AM
Whoever said that Tommy Gunn (Morrison) died in real life is wrong. He was diagnosed with the HIV virus, which prevented him from being able to fight, but he is still very much alive. But recently it has been reported that a deal was in the works for him to fight Tyson. Don't know if that will ever happen, but it would be interesting to watch.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 8, 2006 7:10 PM
incorrect. Tommy Morrison is alive.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 6, 2006 6:31 AM
oy prick rocky is a legend and wud kill ya so do 1 back 2 private school ya pussy
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