Wallace and Gromit The Movie
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 6, 2005 3:07 PM
Wow. It's great to see how well education the general population is.
I for one am excited about the Wallace and Gromit movie. I've enjoyed their shorts and Chicken Run (lest we forget they did that one too).
Shrek2 and Sharktale had their redeeming moments, but otherwise they were both rather bland with little character development and a predictable plot. I can't wait to see what Wallace and Gromit can do.
RE: funny
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 8, 2005 1:47 PM
Will you explain why? It's one thing to say something was horrible, it's quite another to back up your statement.
I enjoyed Shrek2 on a purly "Turn off your brain and be entertained" sense. Sharktale, on the otherhand, was redundant and predictable. The entire "I love you son" "I love you dad" was a bit strained for my tastes.
there. See how easy that was? now, why do YOU think Shrek2 and Sharktale were horribe?
RE: Ralph Bakshi
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2005 7:05 AM
I enjoyed Shrek 1 because the central premise was alot of fun- namely, 'what if all the fairytale characters lived in the same world but acted like real people?' Out of that concept they created a very fun and worthwhile movie. The reason why I thought Shrek 2 was a pile of crap was because its central concept was 'Medievil Flintstones.' The characters are now living in a world which is basically modern day LA but with a medievil twist. You know, where the Flintstones would have a prehistoric Las Vegas and make it Rock Vegas, Shrek 2 has a Barney's of New York store called "Barney's of Old York." That kind of thing, over and over. Plus it just had waaaaay too many pop-culture references, In the first Shrek, there were references aplenty, but usually with an added punch that didn't depend on wink-wink, nudge-nudge. For instance: In the amusement park, where Donkey activates the machine that launches into a frenzied musical number performed by wooden dools. It was obviously a riff on Disney's "It's a Small World" ride, but the song was manic enough and witty enough that it could have stood alone as a gag without that knowledge. In Shrek 2 we just get stuff like a ring falling onto Fionas' finger in the same way as LOTR or a reharsh of the upsidedown kiss from spider-man, there's no humour in them, they just serve as opportunites for morons to nudge the person next to them and say "Hey! I know what that's from!"
RE: Ralph Bakshi
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2005 5:34 PM
Excellent analysis. Well explained analysis. I totally agree with you.
Now, on to the topic this discussion board is SUPPOSED to be on: Wallace and Gromit.
I think the two creators are very clever in the way they represent Wallace and Gromit. Particularly the manner in which Gromit seems to accept Wallace's idiosyncracies, and yet just barely tolerates him as would a babysitter.
Chicken Run is a particular favorite of mine. Though the arguement can be made that the movie is just "The Great Escape" with chickens.
RE: Wallace and Gromit The Movie
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 10, 2005 1:19 AM
I really got a kick out of Wallace and Gromit, and have since bought the vhs and dvd for myself to share with others, who may I add have also developed an appreciation for at least the stories if nothing else. The art of claymation just fascinates me, as I remember in my boring 6th grade math class, using up my new school tablets to animate stick figures, then sharing them with other guys who did the same (not exactly mickey mouse, but fun to be creative anyway) I for one am looking forward to the new movie and will no doubt be taking my three boys to the movies when in theaters. (too bad they dont have cheese & crackers) Popcorn has taken second place for my boys, when watching movies, they have to have their cheese & crackers now. As for the other 2 movies, we saw both of them and although they both had their own redeeming entertainment values, I couldn't help but feeling a bit caught up in the enertainment whirlwind to catch my buck. I'm sure the creators of Wallace & Gromit are going to rake in some fine jingle, but (at 41)there's also that kid inside me that is able to appreciate the fine artwork going into this form of entertainment.I'm sold!
RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 3, 2005 12:50 PM
A great deal of Shrek had inuendos that only adults would understand and, in my opinion, children shouldn't know.
For Example: Farquhat (sp?) laying in bed watching the image of Fiona again and again.
Wallace and Gromit, while aimed at the same audience, has more innocence and, in my opinion, purity that makes it great for children.
I may be an adult, but I'm looking forward to seeing the movie this Autumn.
hahaha you loosers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 5, 2005 11:44 AM
stop arguing over the internet for the love of god!
This film looks good and shrek 2 was good but why are we talking about it here!
arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you wil your still retarded, remember that!
ok im going and im never probably coming back onto this site unless i need another film trailer so will still never go to this page so if you try to call me names or argue you will be seriously redundant!
this film is gunna rock!
RE: hahaha you loosers
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Posted by stumpy (No Email) on April 5, 2005 2:34 PM
i totally agree with you. wallace & gromit are cool & will rock. its about time we showed the y(w)ank`s a thing or 2 about animation. y(w)anks`s dont know there arseholes from their elbows. ive a few questions..
1, what does the "DT" in DTtheatre mean..? is it DeepThroat. :-D
2, is the pope really dead or another american cover up.
3, Ive just acquired a bullet proof golf buggy. how much you reckon i`l get on E-bay?
4, michael Jackson.. innocent, or a child molesting plastic freak.... i think`s so.
5, sandwiches for lunch tomorrow, cheese & pickle or jam & ham.. !
6, 1969, did man really land on the moon ?!!
RE: hahaha you loosers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2005 5:08 AM
1. It's Tenacious D backwards, this site is run by Jack Black.
2. The Pope never dies, he just regenerates like doctor Who.
3. I'll give you $1 for it.
4. Michael Jackson is just a simple man who is truely touched by children.
5. Why not all four?
6. No, it's alla cover up. They really landed on the sun.
P.S: Shrek 2's humour wasn't adult in any way, just a load of fart gags aimed at 12-15 year olds.
RE: hahaha you loosers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2005 3:05 PM
first off, these Yanks you complain about saved your sorry ars in two world wars...a few American Greats spring to mind: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, FDR...
2. The Pope is Italian...blame the MOb.
3. good luck selling your crap on Ebay.
4. Only in America can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman. (he's guilty as sin, though).
5. How about spotted dick for dessert...only the British would eat that crap.
6. Oh goody! a conspiracy buff who's head is so far up his ars he can see out his belly-button.
Winning the Wars
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 7, 2005 10:24 AM
Did I say Americans did it alone? If that's the impression you got then that is unfortunate.
In WWI the Americans served mainly a superfluous role, appearing only in the last two years of the war to turn the balance toward the Triple Entente. Admittedly, the Europeans did most of the work.
In WWII, however, Americans were in the thick of things almost from the beginning with troops, and definitely from the beginning with money (lend/lease, war loans). From here we get into speculation history, and that is a dangerous subject?the ?what if? kind of thing.
While the American?s didn?t do it alone, the British certainly didn?t either?and the French wouldn?t have even thought of trying to fight on their own.
RE: hahaha you loosers
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Posted by stumpy (No Email) on April 7, 2005 11:20 AM
1. I,m sorry, the only way that you can have the words "bill Gates" & "great" in the same sentence is if you include the words "is the worlds" then after "great" putting "est dumb fuck whos doesnt deserve all that money.." Why doesnt he spend all his money developing a operating system that actually works properly without fucking up all the time. Dick !!
2. ok the Mob can take the blame. I wonder where is tardis is now.
3. the crap wasn?t mine. It?s the pope`s pope-mobile. Batman has one so why cant the pope.
4. I thought wacko jacko was male. If that?s what you think a woman looks like then your even more fucked up that I presumed..
5. spotted dick. No thanks. Try some haggis. That`l get some pubes out your balls ( oh i`m sorry you don?t have any )
6. why would I want to see out of my belly button.? I think you have a thing for the male arse. Are you a tail gunner/ joby jabber /fudge packer / chocolate donut pocker / arse bandit*.. I think so.. *delete where applicable
we know the british / French didn?t do it alone u dumb fuck
RE: hahaha you loosers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 9, 2005 10:10 AM
"In WWII, however, Americans were in the thick of things almost from the beginning"
Yea, if three years into the war is the begining. I don't want to get into a big argument but it just pisses me off when I see all these Hollywood movies depicting America as winning the war all by themselves and subsequently you get loads of Americans who actually go along with it. When it comes down to it WWII hinged on alot of things. If America hadn't have joined then the Nazis would have won but then again, if Britain had fallen to the Nazis like the rest of Europe then the Nazis would have occupied that whole region. Where would America have been able to launch any attacks from? It would have only been a matter of time before Germany would have been invading the USA from the east with Japan attacking from the west. If the Russians hadn't have defended Stalingrad then they wouldn't have been able to put pressure on Nazis either. There's a reason why it was called a WORLD war and it just comes across as a bit arrogant when Americans go on about "How we saved your asses!" all the time.
Sadly....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 11, 2005 2:07 PM
This site is designed to discuss Wallace and Gromit, not Amero-centrism and European complexes.
It is a shame to see entire generations of Americans believing that 'they' won wars themselves due to Hollywood dramatizing historical events.
No country won a World War on their own...
The American's could not have won the Revolutionary War without the help of the French, and Europe could not have kept the Nazis at bay without the aid of the Americans. Before you go off on me, I did not say the Americans saved anyone from being run over.
History has a nasty habit of being written by the victor, regardless of whom that may be, and thus skewed toward one view or another. Much of History, at least in the States, is taught as "The West and the Rest." Which, again, is very unfortunate.
RE: Sadly....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2005 7:57 AM
Whoever the limey was who said that if Britain had been taken over by the Nazis then we would have lost the war, your talking out of your ass. There's no way germany would have been able 2 attack us, we were just way 2 strong. all it would have ment is we'd have had 2 defeat the nazis all by ourselfs which is what we pretty much did anyway when u think about it.
International Relations
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 20, 2005 11:10 AM
International relationships are fueled by economics. Wars are based on economics.
I'm not excusing the behavior, just explaining it. Want examples?
Sure:
Vietnam: U.S/French relations - French insisted on U.S. help in Indochina in exchange for a nonaggression treaty that included trade with Germany in post-war Europe (that the U.S. wanted France to sign).
WWII: Hitler wanted more land for the Lebensraum of Germany...for some reason the rest of Europe didn't like that idea (its called sarcasm...don't jump on me).
French Revolution: its called bread, people. The French people were hungry, and tired of incompetent leadership.
American Revolution: It wasn't "no taxation without representation" that's a convenient tagline. In reality the Colonists wanted to be able to tax their own people and create their own national income.
The idea of Lend/Lease in World War II was an excellent idea. Granted the interest was a bit high, but I can't help but wonder if anyone out there remembers the Marshall Plan?
In an attempt to forestall another Great Depression-like dive in the global economy the U.S. loaned enough money to Europe (including Germany) to help rebuild the continent. This had its own ramifications, however, in that Russia felt left out and isolated which in turn led to the Cold War...which was again based on economis (who can outspend whom).
'President' Bush...what can I say? Accidents happen. Don't base your opinion of all Americans on the Politicans of my country. 'Politician' is a dirty word afterall.
RE: International Relations
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 22, 2005 4:39 PM
What has this got to do with te new Wallace & Gromit movie?
I can't wait to see the movie later this year but to all those that don't like the look of it why can't you put forward proper reasons for not wanting to see it instead of just saying stuff like "it's s**t"?
Also before anyone goes off calling me gay or whatever I'm bisexual and proud and would take the comment as a compliment.
RE: Wallace and Gromit The Movie
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 25, 2005 1:49 AM
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RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 25, 2005 1:51 AM
and as 4 u u little prick! here here! here fuckin here! wat did u say u prick! i shud bang u out, no if, buts asking, telling or questions, just straight out! ur the biggest latex mufa fuker! u posh silver spooned dickwad.xx fight me
RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 25, 2005 6:12 AM
GIVE UP! give fuckin uP! u shud b ashamed of yourself u latex gay, ur a fuckin lil prick who shud get basnged out one day soon, watch ur back u gay one punch and its all done, wham bam, all done one simple punch and ur out, good night sweetheart get it? any time and place fight me! right now right here i dont care hit me i love it ahh ur a penis i wanna munch u, ur a faggot and ur a dick wad who doesnt ddesrve not to have his face done over, priccckk!! gimp suited twat
RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 25, 2005 12:48 PM
wow i came onto this site to find a trailer and instead i get to read about sum little dipshits who dont even know how to use a fuckin keyboard. I dunno how old some of u ppl r but im sure its too young to know how to use ur cock properly. Back on topic wallace and gromit looks to be really gud, i especially enjoyed chicken run with the great escape knock offs
RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 26, 2005 4:17 AM
dipshit hey, fight me muthfucker, one on one, no rules, just a full on fight to the death u latex fuck. i mite not know how to use a keyboard but i know how to bang u the fuck out u little fuckin prick. i'm thinkin u and me wearing gimp suites this saturday in a cage fight and i'll go ken shamrock on your ass.
RE: Wallace and Gromit
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 27, 2005 2:10 AM
understand this latex fuck, you and me one on one, winners takes the other mans gimp suit and the zip around the mouth! if you dont understand that then you can understand my foot in your latex ass. everyone knows ur a lil prick and that u love cock up ur ass, why do u wear a pink gimp suit? everyone elses loves red or black, pink u prick! u poof!
RE: Sadly....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 2, 2005 4:27 PM
"Friendly Fire" happens to everyone, it's the American's whose news people are allowed to be in the middle of the action with a huge "Shoot here" signal on a shoulder (that would be the camera).
I completely, whole-heartedly disagree with allowing untrained personel in a combat zone. Like Star Tours in disneyland says "What are you doing here? this is a combat zone, it's restricted!" (dumbest line in the entire place).
Do some research for "Friendly Fire" and tack on a country to the end of it. You're bound to find something other than Americans killing themselves and allies.
In point of fact:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=325732003Scotsman
There's more though, with the bulk of it about American "coy-boy" nature.
RE: Sadly....
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2005 2:49 AM
u little shit, gimp suites? whats wrong with u u little freak, i'll give u fuckin tight around the mouth. its sick fucks like u that should be tied up and severly beaten. obviously i'm gona send u my gimp suit in extra small, tight around the mouth.
Wallace and Gromit; back to basics?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2005 7:11 AM
I didn't bother reading all the crap other people have posted on this forum (c'mon if you want to bitch whine at each other, arrange a time and place away from us) so i'm sorry if someone has already said this; is this going to be a proper "W&G" film, or is it going the way of "Chicken Run"? I say this because there's a massive difference between the two.
Wallace and Gromit was made in the UK for british tv. Let's face it, original W&G wasn't expected to even reach America, in fact the first stuff was only going to be shown here (uk) on tv every Christmas. Everything about W&G feels british from the crackers & cheese jokes to the look of the sets and Wallace in general. It's clear to see why Americans don't like it as much; it'd be like making U571 historically accurate by using british sailors instead of american ones, or leonardo di caprio being english in Titanic; they'd hate it because it wasn't about them. Sometimes a great film is ruined by casting the wrong person to get more sales.
And here's my point; Chicken Run was different because they threw Mel Gibson in there as an american rooster to appeal to the American market. When i was watching "Chicken Run" i was wondering why Nick Park wrote in the token American guy on a farm full of english chickens? While we're at it, why didn't he throw in a hispanic chicken, an asian chicken and a russian chicken, stereotype them as much as possible and make more jokes about their nationalities? If you're still not convinced, take a look at Fowler the old RAF chicken, and tell me the Americans don't just love that heavily-stereotyped, elderly-english-gentlemen character? I'm 21 and i've never heard anyone talk like that.
W&G was true to its english humour (which let's be honest is very different from the American's) and didn't feel the need to boost their sales and the cost of its excellent humour. If Nick Park tries to appeal to crowds out of the Uk, he'll end up making a film completely different from "A Close Shave", "The Wrong Trousers" and "A Grand Day Out". Stick with model railways, porridge cannons, cheese & crackers and cardigan-wearing sheep jokes, those are the gags that made Wallace and Gromit great.
RE: Wallace and Gromit; back to basics?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2005 8:34 AM
Yea, I don't want Wallace and Gromit to turn into some crappy pop-culture referencing shit with 'star name' voice actors like Shark-Tale or Shrek 2.
:)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 4, 2005 6:38 AM
hey hey, were back the gimp suite wearing, latex, tight around the mouth (sorry exrta tight around the mouth) motherfuckers. we've been away for a while but ihavent forgetton how fuckin gay u lot are, wallace and gromit sucks cock, like all ur mums, ur all a bunch of ponsey faggot gays who need to get a life, i cud bang each and every one of u out in one punch easily, if i cud bothered but ur all such fukin latex losers i cant be bothered, i cant belive how gay u lot are, u make me sick. ur the biggest loada no time dustbin emptying losers iv ever had the displeasure of talkin to, u fukin bunch of women fucks u all stink like a hippos shit. and ur mum looks like a dead rat on toast, and she eats it the fat bitch xx