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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 7:28 AM
Actually you are correct. But the book was called Charlie &, The Chocolate Factory,.. so maybe they're sticking closer to the book, and/or gearing up for the book's sequel, Charlie and the Glass Elevator.
ooooooooohhhhhh
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 8, 2004 8:45 AM
i have the last of the everlasting GOBSTOPPERS!!!!!!!! and yes this is a satanic movie! AWESOME i hope they make it evil. After all Willy was a child killer, its so obvious lol well should be interesting, and btw i am glad this thread didnt turn into the political nonsense that the Star Wars III turned into. ok take care have fun and pray ;D
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 9, 2004 5:00 AM
Yeah, except that Wonka trusted humanity as far as he could throw it, and that he wanted only a child cause he distrusted adults, and a child could easily be molded into the person he wanted that child to be. Nothing wrong with that of course.
RE: Smeels Like Children
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 16, 2004 1:11 PM
i just wnated to freaking know who's acting in this fucking movie gesus deep sucks get over hahahaha ok i admite hes ok but wouldnt you want to see freaking marilyn manson beging willy wonka i mean he made an album that looks like the movie thing i just want to know
RE: Charlie Vs Wonka
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 18, 2004 12:09 PM
Correction: Burton did not "do" "James and the Giant Peach." He was a producer of the film, with Denise Di Novi, but Henry Selick (who also co-produced) directed that film. It's not a Tim Burton film.
Manson
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 19, 2004 1:11 PM
Marilyn Manson is not in this movie. That was simply a rumor... from pre production. He was being considered for Wonka, which is obviously Johnny Depp (hooray). I'm glad they are going for the darker, orginal concept that Dahl had in his book (and yes they were much darker). If Depp doesnt make this very different from Wilder's performance, there is no way this film is going to succeed.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 24, 2004 3:31 AM
Let me ask you something... Did you ever do English Lit?
Yes, it is dark. If I could be assed I'd go looking for quotes... :)
But yes, Dahl = Darker-than-you-think, you just have to read into it.
RE: Smeels Like Children
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 27, 2004 6:59 PM
IN RESPONSE TO: i just wnated to freaking know who's acting in this fucking movie gesus deep sucks get over hahahaha ok i admite hes ok but wouldnt you want to see freaking marilyn manson beging willy wonka i mean he made an album that looks like the movie thing i just want to know
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Okay.. why didnt anyone say anything about this idiot before... He spelt Smells Smeels... And Jesus with a G for Christ's Sake... I think stupidity at this level should be inadvertantly smited from the face of the Earth.
RE: Smeels Like Children
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 27, 2004 7:00 PM
your a fucking moron i mean how old are u and how stupid would one have to be to listen to the opinion of someone who spelled jesus wrong? and as far as marilyn manson, have u seen him do a lot of movies? i dont think so he leaves it to the pros. Johnny Depp is the best thing that happened to this movie especially since the original was a fucking musical!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 28, 2004 11:53 AM
he looks 'gothic' because it's Tim Burton that is re-making the movie. Have you ever seen a Tim Burton movie? ('beetle juice', 'edward sissorhands.', 'the nightmare before christmas', ect;) He's dark. That's his premise for his movies.
Have you READ 'Willa Wonka and the Chocolate factory'? How do you know it's not a dark movie?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 28, 2004 12:27 PM
IN RESPONSE TO: i just wnated to freaking know who's acting in this fucking movie gesus deep sucks get over hahahaha ok i admite hes ok but wouldnt you want to see freaking marilyn manson beging willy wonka i mean he made an album that looks like the movie thing i just want to know
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First of all, learn how to spell. Your grammar and illiteracy disgust me and it makes you look like an idiot.
Johnny Depp is a very well respected actor. He's been in countless movies, and he's done a great job in all of them, what are you talking about? And Marilyn Manson as an actor? HAH! You slay me, seriously. I don't know what Tim Burton was thinking even ASKING him. Johnny Depp will do an excellent job. In fact, about two years ago, before i even KNEW we was going to play Willa Wonka, i was thinking 'who would be be a great part for the movie if they were to remake it?', and Johnny Depp was the only person who came to mind. You're opinions, although poorly written, are welcome. But not when you're acting like a complete ignoramus.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 6, 2004 5:25 PM
finally someone who knows how to put this idiot in his place, i would like to thank you personally for your very well thought out and intellegent remarks, Johnny Depp is a very well respected actor, the movie is going to be better than the first with Tim Burtons ingenius visions and Johnny Depps phenomenal acting, honestly Marilyn Manson as an actor oh my fucking goodness! Depp is clearly the right and best choice for this movie so anyone else want to challenge this feel free, but make it good otherwise if you are just going to be an idiot and make terrible remarks about Johnny Depp without thinking it through then FUCK OFF! always,-Roxxxy_888
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 7, 2004 7:44 AM
As in other forums, IN the BOOK the oompa lumpas didn't have orange faces... Maybe some of these people should read it sometime, It's by Roald Dahl in the Children's section and is called CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 10, 2004 8:11 AM
marilyn manson what the fcuk u on!! this is a film for little kids its comedy not a horror, marilyn will scare the fcuk out of children, now get a life!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 12, 2004 7:19 PM
"They" did not make the movie either "evil" or "dark". Let me put this in a nice way, it is a Tim Burton film(music by Danny Elfman!),and all of the movies he directs are rather "odd" by most people's opinions. AKA Nightmare Before Christmas, Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands,etc...see how all of his films are considered "weird" by some? That's just his influence on the films.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 15, 2004 10:15 AM
oh really you are critisizing for mispelling "spells", your dumbass spelled "being", "beggins", STUPIDITY. Oh yes, you said it!!!!!!!
RE: CATCF
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 21, 2004 9:03 AM
yeah, the Original movie was called Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory But this isn't the original its a sequel and theres no better way to have a sequelthen to have it made after the book...Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. Which was released as a more childish book but it was most defintely interesting. If the movie came out with a such name like "The Return of Chocolate Factory" then people might get confused especiallly if it had nothing to do with the ending of the Original movie or the Book. And just because Johnny Depp looks a little portrayed as Marilyn Manson that does not mean he is. There are rumors going around saying that Manson was asked to play in the movie but he turned them down also stated in a recent interview with him. This movie will be more than a big hit at the box offices, but who knows if it'll turn out to be a bummed out movie leaving you lost and confused as heck??
Thanks-RAchel N. Stone
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 23, 2004 10:17 AM
All of you that fail to read the prior comments, and repeat endlessly the same things over and over. I feel (IMHO) that Tim Burton & Johnny Depp have been an outstanding combination in every endeavor they've collaborated on. But they are also great when working with others (Pirates...Depp and Nightmare...Burton). Now as for Marilynn Manson (spelling??) as an actor...I know of only one other film he has even been connected with at this point other then as a musician and that would have been "JawBreaker" with his then girlfriend Rose McGowan.. and the minimal role he played he did well and was not overly dark and scary, but quite professional. So lay off the bashing of an artist you don't understand and except the fact that he MIGHT have made a descent Willy for the movie but chose not to do it...Maybe he didn't feel like getting type-cast as a dark actor so that in the future...he might have a future.
Thanx for your time,
Shemp the most underated Stooge
RE: Smeels Like Children
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 28, 2004 3:59 PM
i STRONGLY disagree with your thesus which states that marilyn manson should be willy wonka. Isnt this movie supposed to be aimed more at children than adults? I dont think marilyn manson would make a little child laugh. The movie would get horrible reviews if manson were wonka.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 3, 2005 7:42 PM
just my two cents:
i believe the movie (and more importantly, the book)is aimed at society as a whole. it presents to children a world where everything they want is handed to them as long as they're not evil brats, and adults respect them. to adults it's a huge reality check that we're raising our children wrong and destroying the world that they'll have to deal with eventually. MM would have very well portrayed the darker side of WW, and i believe that he would have been entertaining as well. have you ever seen the guy in an interview? he's brilliant. however, he might have freaked out the youngins, so johnny depp would be the better choice. as for CW, he seems too extreme. he's either harmless or creepy. there's no undertones, no hints. the reason JD resembles MM in the film is because he looks creepy, and manson looks creepy. however, he's wearing a shirt, he has shorter hair, and he's not wearing false eyelashes.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 4, 2005 12:37 PM
Okay, Marilyn Mansen is not brilliant. He thrives on shock value to get attention. He thinks, "let's see how freakin' weird and different I can be so people will talk about me and how scary I am." Then, he gets on an interview and speaks normally so that not-so-intelligent people out there will say, oh wow, isn't he just brilliant! He's just expressing his "art"! He's a genius! Give me a big freakin break. I think he dropped out of high school-- could be wrong on that, but I thought I heard that. Anyway, now that I'm done with my rant, I would like to say that I am very much looking forward to this movie and I can't wait to see if Johnny Depp can pull this off. Gene Wilder was amazing, and will be very hard to top. Are they going to have the four bed-ridden grandparents in this one?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 4, 2005 2:41 PM
MM thinks differently, that doesn't make him stupid, and he wants his voice heard (just like you, dumbass!) and not many people would listen to his ideas if he wasn't the way he is. he's brilliant even if you don't recognize it cuz your mind's too clouded with your own ideas to listen to someone else's.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 5, 2005 2:58 AM
Marilyn Mansen is the Devil! His evil songs are what cause all those children to commit highschool shootings! How dare you suggest that he should star in a childrens movie!? I will pray for your soul, you need Jesus.
M. Mason/Depp friends?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 8, 2005 12:15 PM
Are they really friends or is that a rumor? Also, is MM really an antichrist. if so, how do you know and why did he choose to be that way?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 8, 2005 12:32 PM
Here some things I do know, there is a God and there is Satin. The Devil can be take any form he wishes and speak with as much elegance and intellect as anyone. In Johnny's case, he has had a difficult childhood which has left an impression on him spirtitually. Although he now understands the joys of life through his (wife) and children, the illusions of the dark sides of life are still familiar to him. I can only hope that he has the strength to stay "closer to the light" as he was quoted as saying in an article.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 8, 2005 10:57 PM
I just stumbled in here when i searched "charlie and the chocolate factory" looking for some info on the new movie. I think that the language that you guys are using in this forum is completely ridiculas. I'm sure in the upcoming months as the premier of the movie gets closer, there will be many young children who accidently end up in this forum as i did. As a bunch of adults, you should be ashamed of yourselves. And before you go putting me down as some older adult, i just wanted to let you know that i am 21. Thanks!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 11, 2005 11:44 AM
yeah, i definitely agree with you there. also, i love how everyone acts like mason is the spawn of satan. he is actually quite intelligent, and while i don't think he would be able to fit the part for wonka in this movie, i most definitely don't think he deserves to be put down.
MM as WW
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on January 14, 2005 10:52 AM
As to if Manson was asked to play Wanka, I find conflicting stories spread across the web. However, the rumour isn't that off kilter, take a look at Manson's first albumn and its follow up. His logo is very Wanka, he is even quoted as saying he wanted to come off as a more evil wanka. So the Manson kids ran with it. This either sparked a rumour, or led the production crew to actually consider it. Could he have pulled it off? We'll never know. We can't discredit his acting ability, in fact we have nothing but evidence for it, he is more entertainer than musician, and is quite good at what he does, love him or hate him. As for Depp, brilliant casting. I think there are very very few actors I would even consider a proper fill in for Wonka, shy of genetically creating Wanka in a lab. Dahls books were not "dark" persay, but in contrast to Wilder's performance, quite a bit darker. Burton is just the man to bring a bit of oddity to a story that cries out for something beyond the norm. Wonka always seemed more spooky than zaney to me anyway... my 2 cents
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 4, 2005 6:07 AM
Yo yo yo
dose rhymes is TIGHT!
But yo beta listen up to dis lyrical fight!
Yo talk about fags an bein' gay
Sounds ta me like yo green wit envaaay
Dude dat ain't cool, beta stay in school
beta learn some shit so yo be no fool!
Gots ta get a job, gots ta bring in da dow,
Den yo be livin' it up in yo crib wit yo hoe;
Word up.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 8, 2005 11:37 PM
Manson is a great at what he does, and that's singing. Although he's a very intelligent man, and he seems like he's very nice, I don't think his acting ability is anywhere near what Johnny Depp could do. Stop being a frigging idiot and just shut up already.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 7, 2005 11:34 AM
If you think MM is great at singing, well, to each his own, but what in the sam hell leads you to believe the man is intelligent? He doesn't do anything but "sing" and dress like a drag queen. What are you basing his intelligence on? You, or I, for that matter, don't really know the guy at all 'cause his image is all marketing, so I wouldn't confuse your liking of his music with having any kind of a brain.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 13, 2005 11:52 AM
ohh another stereotyper...i should find you and kick you, first off...gothic,'Of or relating to the Middle Ages; medieval. ' its not a genere, whoever started that up was a moron and you are supporting it! also, why not READ THE BOOK!? it describes him looking as so, and in the first film, same outfit, different pants and hair, but exactly the same so....shut it...moron...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 15, 2005 5:15 PM
"yeah, i definitely agree with you there. also, i love how everyone acts like mason is the spawn of satan. he is actually quite intelligent, and while i don't think he would be able to fit the part for wonka in this movie, i most definitely don't think he deserves to be put down."
Exactly...people have no right whatsoever to put someone down when they don't even know them.
And yes, to everyone else, I also agree that Johnny Depp is fits the role better.
RE: blahblah LOOOOOOKK!!!!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 20, 2005 8:42 PM
HEY! I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WHEN I WAS WATCHING 100 SCARIEST MOVIE MOMENTS OF ALL TIME, ON BRAVO, CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY WAS #74 SO STOP SAYIN THAT IT IS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE DARK! AND ACTUALLY I WATCHED THE MOVIE ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND THE DVD SAID IT WS CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY NOT WILLY WONKA SO STOP SAYIN THAT ITS NOT!
RE: blahblah LOOOOOOKK!!!!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2005 12:44 PM
WHO FREAKIN CARES??? For heavens sake, quit arguing over whether or not it will be dark!! Wait for the damn movie to come out, and then you all can debate it 'til the sun comes up. Until then, PLEASE get on a different topic about this movie!!
Cause this whole ongoing argument is getting real old.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2005 8:23 AM
hahaha....i take it everyones watched the film now?? just wanted to say after readin all this and watching the film, the original film WAS called willy wonka and the chocolate factory..i know this because i do media studies and had to reseacrh this film to write a review and compare it to the original. Secondly, its not sposed to be a dark film. So shut up. Dahls widow recently said in an interview that Dahl hated the original willy wonka for the fact that he portrayed willy wonka as a psycho basically and was too scary/dark which is why Depp was perfect for the role as he portrays willy wonka as a more quirky, friendly person. Maybe you should all do your research before arguing about something you know nothing of. Also the comment before me, they didnt breed those squirrels especially for the film, they were already tame squirrels and it only took like three months or something to train them.