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By Yakobusan May 10, 2004 10:58 AM
Troy totally overdoes it, changes historical aspects and is kitschy until the last dialogue. Nevertheless: the movie works. Sure, it is impudent from director Petersen to change the history to get a movie working on the screen, but it worked with LORD OF THE RINGS as well, and story is story, history is history, book is book and cinema is cinema!
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oh darn 
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Posted by Yakobusan (spam@mysan.de) on May 10, 2004 11:10 AM
"poor writing styles"
sorry for that! i am from ze germany and i does not speak englisch oh so good
i hope youll understand the review nevertheless (what a cool word...)
RE: oh darn reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2004 7:12 PM
I am going to see the film and don't spoil to much but how much of a bad ass is Achillies. On a scale of 1-10. 1 being killing a couple of personalities 10 being cutting a swathe through (litterally) hundreds of people.
RE: oh darn reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 10, 2004 9:34 PM
wat is the film rated? r16? r13? what?
RE: oh darn reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 3:41 AM
Good point that will actually give a fair rating of what they can put in the film, r13 is like UK12A right and r16 is a UK15? whats a 18?
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 7:47 AM
His name was Achilles and he had an Achilles heel? What are the chances?
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 8:21 AM
Do you mean the chances of killing hundreds People?
Achillies is a cool name plus remember having the Achillies heel meant the rest of him was immortal plus in the Iliad me makes a river run red by personally killing an obsene amount of men
pg 13 reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 11, 2004 8:56 PM
hey,its pg13 over here in nz. wats the rating over in your country?
i heard it was r something
RE: pg 13 reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 4:45 AM
It will probably be a 12A. What does a r before the certificate mean?
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 7:19 AM
Rated R for Retarded.
I love Vice City.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 5:12 PM
As in the computer game Yeah it was pretty good.
Troy should be cool too I wonder if Aneas will get a mention.
yea reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 12, 2004 9:51 PM
vice citys chatterbox radio station is da funniest.
troy just came out 2day in cinemas.i havent seen it yet but people r telling me that its really good.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 7:33 AM
Chatterbox wasn't in Vice City, you're thinking of GTA III.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 9:20 AM
There was a similar radio show in Vice City.
Not the same though.
Do you think they will do the Odyssey?
Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 5:41 PM
I found this movie Entertaining it wasn't a blockbuster hit like say braveheart yet It had some awesome swordfighting scenes..
well worth seeing..
prettyboy brad pitt was suprisingly good in his role as Archilles and was convincing as was Eric Bana...Only gripe I had was the music in this film sucked..it's musical score was similar to Gladiator..in those epic movies you NEED grand moving/memorable scores that drive the passion in my opinion and it lacked great music.
Also I know some Greeks have blonde hair yet most of the characters weren't actually greek but hey that's hollywood
conclusion
not a 10/10 movie yet still entertaining and quite good
battle scenes? reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 14, 2004 2:54 AM
were the battle scenes cool? like the war bit?
RE: battle scenes? reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 15, 2004 3:50 AM
yeah the battle scenes were quite good..makes the LOTR battle scenes look kid-like(non-violent) in comparison
its definately worth watching for the fighting
Troy: An attrocity reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 15, 2004 6:51 PM
I did not think the film worked, at all! If you took the most cliche and catch phrasey lines from a random assortment of action films you could have made the dialogue for this film! Similarly, it took an amazing story that has been the foundation for a massive portion of Western literature, and condensed it into a ridiculous set of action sequences with characters who were, for the most part, completely unlikeable. The film catered to women looking for eye-candy and men looking for blood. This film was attempting to attain the same immortality that Achilles is apparently searching for, but unlike the real Achilles, this film version is very forgettable.
STILL HAVENT SEEN IT! reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 16, 2004 9:13 PM
i still havent seen it yet but im still looking forward to it since people have said good things about the battle scenes.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 17, 2004 4:00 AM
Idiot. That is where the saying comes from.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 17, 2004 4:01 AM
i love Vice City too.
RE: reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 17, 2004 8:37 AM
Seen it yet?
nope. reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 17, 2004 9:11 PM
nope.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 18, 2004 4:27 PM
Don't come on here and rip off Eddie Izzard jokes. That's just lame.
Now? reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 19, 2004 6:39 AM
How bout now?
Of course its trash! reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 19, 2004 11:15 AM
This movie was always going to be trash with no depth of character. Brad Pitt hamming it up clown shoes. Atrociously bad looking costumes. They look rubber! Idiotic and generic dialogue. Effect shot after effect shot. Unlikeable and seemingly irrelevant characters as the story wears on (even Paris whom was half the reason why the war started). Music that is a pretentious attempt at creating epic scale.
P.S - And I havn't even seen it yet.
Verdict:
Generic Hollywood blockbuster that is a movie of the week at best. A t-shirt!
seen it. reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 19, 2004 9:55 PM
ive finally seen it and it was a blast! arent the costumes supposed to be rubber? u cant say that the metal armour was rubber can you?
RE: Movie sucs reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 20, 2004 3:41 AM
I havnt seen the movie but i jus no its jus really crappy hollywood shit.
box office reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 21, 2004 12:00 AM
well it did good in da box office.go c it
Armor and Review reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 21, 2004 6:16 AM
Only a few of the constumes looked like rubber because its treated leather, thats what was used if you wanted moderate armor with ease of movement. Metallic armor was also used, as in the film. So don't be such a stupid fag.
My review : Excellent action, especially the fight between Hector and Achilles. Let down by wooden acting, and unlikable characters (apart from possibly hector). Bana did a far better job then Pitt in, but getting bored between action is never a good sign. still it's enjoyable. 7/10
great movie reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 22, 2004 3:14 AM
the battle scenes were nicely done and the move wen brad pit runs up and jumps then stabs the guy in the air was so cool. i think i heard sum1 say that some parts werent wat happened acording 2 history. what parts where they?
ps.its not rubber its leather,y dont u just go c da movie like i did.
booshaka reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 22, 2004 11:38 AM
Well for one thing, according to the Iliad the siege lasted for ten years, not a few weeks like in the film.
Remember this is myth, not true history.
p.s Yep, that move where he kills that huge guy in the beginning is way cool.
not real? reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 23, 2004 9:55 PM
its not real? i thought the story about the giant horse was supposed 2 b true. actually i thought that the WHOLE story was true . maybe its true but there was a myth surrounding achilles saying he was immortal. thats probably the thing ur talkin about.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 5:55 AM
I don't care how much tan they give Brad Pitt, he still didn't look as hard as some of the extras in the movie.
better than I expected reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 3:32 PM
Overall, I was surprised. I'm one of the few people under 100 who have read both the Iliad and the Odessey ( and liked them both). I was worried that these Hollywood types would skimp and not portray Paris as enough of a pansy or Achilles (sorry about my spelling) as an overgrown-semi-imortal-spoiled brat. I went to the movie expecting it to be horrible, but it's like a clasic story, so i felt obligated. It wasn't as bad as I thought, Pitt did a good job acting like an imature little f#@% (or maybe that wasn't acting). Whoever played Paris was ok at being cowardly, but the script relied a little to heavily on the "love" aspect of it. Overall thought: the only charachter I was truely disapointed in was Odesseus. He seemed much cooler in the books. Plus, he wasn't very convincing.
PS: I thought Achilles died before the whole horse incedent. Was that just a rewriting for the movie?
RE: better than I expected reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 3:35 PM
oh yeah, the stabbings and slicings and stuff were really cool, I forgot to say that. Sorry.
Well worth seeing reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2004 7:17 AM
The movie isn't bad. If you have read the Iliad and the Oddyssey then it makes sense - whereas if you haven't even got a basic understanding of those two epics then you may well think that the characters are contrived.
Pitt plays Achilles well - like the above poster said. He isn't the best in the movie (that goes to Eric Bana), but he plays his role surprisingly well. The fight scenes were very well done, and the only battle scene I didn't like was the very first one. I know it's meant to set Achilles up as being unstoppable, but it shouldn't end with just one stab - although it was a pretty cool stab admittedly.
They stuck quite closely to the book - and to another poster - yes Aeneas did get a mention. I thought it was a bit too long though. A very good movie though
8 / 10
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2004 7:34 AM
I remember reading somewhere that archeologists found the reminants of Troy in Northern Turkey some time ago. As for the film, well overall it was pretty good although that scene where Achilles is teaching his cousin how to fight has to be the gayest, most homo-erotic swordfight ever.
Also, when I saw the film I think there must have been some really dumb people in the audience because in the bit where the Greeks all creep out of the horse one guy shouted out "Oh come on!"
lol reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 26, 2004 10:03 PM
what do you mean by the guy shouting out "oh come on!" wats so bad about that?
is troy a real person?
and are you SURE its not a true story?
What about the setting and scenery?? reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2004 11:30 PM
Hello all. I'd like to ask, what do you think of the setting, scenario, beaches, cities etc. Most of the movie was filmed in Malta, my home island-country, and it would be nice to have some comments.
Steve
Malta
What I mean... reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 27, 2004 7:17 AM
What I mean by him shouting "Oh come on!" was that he was obviously so uneducated that he'd never heard of the legend of Troy before this movie and thought that the whole 'hiding in a wooden horse and creeping out after dark' thing was just a far-fetched Hollywood gimmik.
o reply
Posted by i dont know (direoswald@hotmail.com) on May 27, 2004 9:31 PM
oh. wat an idiot. even I know that bit in the story.
RE: What I mean... reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 2:50 PM
are you a little stupid? the story of Troy, as well as the Trojan Horse, is a very well known legend in Greek Mythology. The story of Troy, Helen, Hector, Paris, Achilles, etc. is all in Homer's epic poem Iliad, which i've read many times. Although the movie does leave out some details and could give more backround on the wars of Agamemnon and the birth/aquired immortality of Achilles. All toghter,i think, it was a well directed, briliant, and modern interpertation that goes abaove and beond the Iliad
RE: What I mean... reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 2:54 PM
previous post....i ment is he a little stupid...not are u a little stupid*
RE: lol reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 2:56 PM
lol...Troy is a city u tard, not a person
RE: Of course its trash! reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 2:58 PM
wow...i bet you dont even kno the story, do you? you are a complete and ignorant fool...maybe you should get off your ass and watch it before your so quick to judge ass whole
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 7:16 PM
I think the reason why they played down the whole thing about Achilles actually being immortal because the Gods dipped him in magic stuff was because they wanted to keep it as realistic as they could. When you think about it, it makes sense that the whole story got embelished over time until the story became such that Achilles was totally invunerable apart from his heel because that's where the Gods held him.
pwnz0r! reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2004 10:04 AM
Would have been better if they had held him by his hair, then he would have been essentially invincible.Even a finger would have ben better.
RE: mythology reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2004 8:12 PM
Troy is methology. It has never been proven to be real. A search is still being done as to where it could have taken place.
BAD MOVIE reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 1, 2004 11:52 AM
You will love this movie if all you go for is the fighting. The movie was so historicaly and mythalogicly inacurate it was astonishing. I questioned where screen play writer and director heard of the battle of Troy. Among many problems with the movie my main complaint was how inacuate it was. They put the battles in the wrong order. My second major problem with the movie is that they expanded the conflict. No story is better then the truth (They obiously didn't know that). Troy was attacked by 1000 ships and 50,000 men. Hmmm let me freeze that sceen were the boats are from horizon to horizon, i think thats a bit more then 1000. And in the scenes where the greeks were coming over the beach to attack the Trojan walls, i think that is about 1000000 people at least. Although those are some major problems they hail in comperison to how short they make the war look. Correct me if im wrong but i believe the Trojan war lasted longer then 10 years. The only passage of time that is shown is (6 months later). They have freakin like 4 battles and then "oH! lets make a horse (6 months later)" "Ahh we win." I like alot of movies that are considered subpar to most, but this was a rechid movie. Do not support people who make movies like this, do not see TROY.
RE: How much of a reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 1:50 AM
Err... I'm not sure Achilles can be a badass at all seeing as he was homosexual.
RE: Troy reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 7:38 AM
The movie would have been so stupid if every 20 minutes a tag came up saying 3 years later or whatever. Remember, the whole story of Troy is based around legend and myth anyway, just because it reads a certain way in The Iliad doesn't mean that that was exactly the way everything happened. When The Iliad was written there was probably alot of embelishing and artistic lisense taken, just like the writers of this film have done.
Achilles was a necrophiliac. Sorta. reply
Posted by Scheherazade (scheherazade@screaminabox.com) on August 15, 2004 11:55 AM
Androdaira... She disguised herself during the battle of Troy. Achilles fought and killed her; afterwards, he took off her mask and saw how beautiful she was, and he fell madly in love with her. Then, after a little while, some men made fun of Achilles' "doings" and Achilles punished 'em.
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