By Cmaster2 April 2, 2004 1:07 PM
The new trailer has been voiced by Julie Christie and viewers will get to see it in cinemas from next week. With the release date for the movie set for 21st May, now is the time to ensure that it sells tickets.
There is a strong chance it will, with a cast of Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana and Peter O'Toole. Throughout time, men have waged war. Some for power, some for glory, some for honour - and some for love. It is German director Wolfgang Petersen who now tackles the legendary epic of Helen of Troy, and the war waged over her.
Throughout time, men have waged war. Some for power, some for glory, some for honour - and some for love. In ancient Greece, the passion of two of history's most legendary lovers, Paris, Prince of Troy, played by Orlando Bloom, and Helen Queen of Sparta, played by Diane Kruger, ignites a war that will devastate a civilisation.
When Paris steals Helen away from her husband, King Menelaus, played by Brendan Glesson, it is an insult that cannot be suffered. Familial pride dictates that an affront to Menelaus is an affront to his brother Agamemnon (Brian Cox), powerful King of the Myceneans, who soon unites all the massive tribes of Greece to steal Helen back from Troy in defense of his brother's honour.
In truth, Agamemnon's pursuit of honour is corrupted by his overwhelming greed. He needs control of Troy to ensure the supremacy of his already vast empire. The walled city, under the leadership of King Prium (Peter O'Toole) and defended by mighty Prince Hector (Eric Bana), is a citadel that no army has been able to breach. One man alone stands as the key to victory or defeat over Troy - Achilles, played by Brad Pitt, who is believed to be the greatest warrior alive.
Arrogant, rebellious and seemingly invincible, Achilles has no allegiance to anyone or anything, save his own glory. It is his insatiable hunger for eternal renown that leads him to attack the gates of Troy under Agamemnon's banner but it will be love that ultimately decides his fate.
Two worlds will go to war for honour and power. Thousands will fall in pursuit of glory. And for love, a nation will burn to the ground. Warner Bros. Pictures presents this Radiant production, in association ith PLAN B.
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i saw the trailer a month ago!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 2, 2004 11:14 PM
the trailer was in cinemas like a month ago in cinemas in nz! troy is one of the films i really want to see. bt it kinda looks like lotr style cuz of the batle scenes in the trailer.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 3, 2004 7:18 AM
This is a newer trailer.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 3, 2004 9:41 PM
oh. i cant view it. is it better than the old trailer?
troy
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 4, 2004 6:46 AM
The battle in lotr sucks i hope to see something more in troy
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 4, 2004 9:34 PM
the battle on lotr was the best battle scene ever made! it totally rocks! is the troy trailer good?
Troy
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 6, 2004 6:09 AM
Even though the battle in LOTR felt a bit like the Hoth battle in 'The Empire Stikes Back' at times it was still probably the best on-screen war/battle that I've ever seen. As for Troy, well it looks interesting but when Brad Pitt says "IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?" it sounded a bit too much like 'Gladiator' when he goes "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?"
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 7, 2004 9:35 AM
Well, they show more than they did in the old trailer.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 7, 2004 3:07 PM
hey, i cant view the trailer fo troy, is the trailer better than the old one?
yes
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 11, 2004 3:20 AM
yes, its better than the old 1
battling
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 11, 2004 3:23 AM
how can u say the battle in lotr sucked? c'mon! i dont think any1 on earth cudve done a better job with those battles, they were immense, involving and entertaining! but i cant quite c the connection with the hoth battle?! lol! elves and snow speeders, slightly different! u have 2 expect the battles 2 b similar in troy and lotr, they r the same sort of genre and the technology developed 4 battles in lotr wud b likely to b copied or developed 4 other films
well...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 12, 2004 6:44 AM
The Olliphants were similar to the AT-AT's.
ah
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 12, 2004 8:08 AM
ah, the hallowed All Terrain Armoured Transport, how i miss those little beauties! point taken, i concede. as much of a die hard star wars fan i am tho, i must admit i do prefer the lotr battle! i reckon troy is gonna have sum awesome fight scenes, even they are similar to lotr, the trailers look promsing at least.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 19, 2004 12:54 PM
screw you hippie, do not talk like that about lotr, those people worked for 7 years so you can enjoy, why dont you make something and then bullshit about other movies
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 20, 2004 2:45 AM
lotr is the king of battle scenes fullstop,
or just a .
Star Trek
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 21, 2004 6:40 AM
No! It's gotta B Star Trek all the way! u could choose any battle cos they're all da bomb!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2004 6:18 AM
The Classic battle scene was BraveHeart any of the battles but particularly the one where he is betrayed by the other Scotish nobles (Falkirk I think). Its a 15 so your seeing all the fighting you have the tradegy of betrayal and then the desperate scramble to try to get to Edward the I.
I want to know what Achillies death count will be by the end of the movie or whether he is just going to fight other heroes. In the Illiad he turns a river red by Killing so many Trojans.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2004 8:46 AM
Braveheart was pretty crap, I prefer LOTR
Brave heart
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 10, 2004 7:09 PM
Braveheart may have been historically inaccurate but it wasn't crap! The lord of the rings battles were one speeded up close up after another or a very long shot of two large armies either way you couldn't see any detail, which you could in braveheart.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 8:11 AM
Yea but it was still crap.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 8:44 AM
Your such a loser, ok lets hear the loser speak, this should be intresting (when I say intresting I mean pointless).
Why was Brave heart Crap? (please don't use the history of the situation I know it was wrong but every film based on somthing else changes stuff. The lotr film changed stuff from the original books)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 7:46 AM
I dunno, it was just, well... crap.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 5:18 PM
Ah excellent no reply, I was worried there you may have a point.
Now that thats over Braveheart has to be up there with cool battle scenes.
1-Fellowship of the Ring(Sauron is qualers)
2-Saving Private Ryan (D-day landings of course
3-Braveheart (take your pick)
4-Return of the King (the Cavalry charge)
5-Empire Strikes Back. (Hoth rules)
Meh...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 7:48 AM
Nah, most of those are pretty crap.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 9:19 AM
Your still crap.
Crap this.
CRAPOlA
(braveheart is great hahahahah)
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Posted by popsie (popsie@dtt.com) on May 14, 2004 1:25 AM
i think you forget about the other leading role Gibson played. On of the best role and scene was in The Patriot. The battle scene against the two sides.I belive Gibson played a brilliant role as the father and the army leader and since then i personaly believe i has ever tope that part. what do you?
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Posted by popsie (popsie@dtt.com) on May 14, 2004 1:29 AM
i agree with you unlike bravheart the viewrs got to see every little detail. whereas, lord of the rings the fight scens were short and you never got to see any detai of the characters.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 17, 2004 9:00 AM
I can see where your coming from and everything but... I dunno, I just think it's all a bit crap.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 5:48 AM
THe fights in troy were just repeats of LOTR but with Greeks. Plus all the heroes were crap.
Troy
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 6:14 AM
And most of the dialogue was ripped off Gladiator.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2004 7:45 AM
I know what you mean. Example:
GLADIATOR
"I shall have my vengence, in this life or the next."
TROY
"I love you and I'm going to be with you, in this life or the next."
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 5:15 PM
There is sticking to the book. There is allowing the director some flexibility. There is using the basic premise of the book. There is using the name and characters of the book. There is not even reading the book, then there is troy...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 30, 2004 7:09 AM
But the book's all based around legend anyway. In the book it tells of how Achillies is imortal because the Gods dipped him in imortality; that doesn't sound too plausable if you ask me.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2004 4:03 AM
Actually the books more about Achillies avenging Patroclus in an original poem called the Wrath of Achillies which was then adapted in the Illiad.
It isn't realistic but thats not the point, the film missed out a ten year siege alot of hereos on both the Trojan and Greek side all of which are important, Paris should die Menalus and Aggememnon survive, the guy Orlando Bloom gives the sword of Troy to at the end is a great hereo in his own right and gets his own epic, Ajax kills himself etc etc.
I don't mind books being changed for film after all LOTR changed stuff and in parts was better than the book. But Troy didn't even do that it was worse than if they had just put the book to film!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 7:53 AM
It's always going to be hard striking a balance between staying true to the book and having a satisfying and entertaining film. Remember, the only reason they deviated from the book was because they wanted to make the movie as enjoyable as possible.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 2:49 PM
True but they missed out Good bits of the book like Achillies routing an army and numerous fights like when Achillies takes on a trojan immune to blades ande so has to strangle him or when Ajax nearly crushes Hector with a huge rock.
Plus they killed off random characters like Aggamemnon and Menalus.
I don't mind them deviating from the book but they actually made it worse. Comparitivly nothing really happened in the film.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 3, 2004 6:20 AM
Well, Aggamemnon had to die because he was basically the bad guy and the ending just wouldn't have been satisfying if all the heroes die yet the bad guy doesn't. Plus, they wanted to keep the story based in reality so that was why they didn't have things like Achillies fighting a man who was invunerable to blades.
I think in the end they just wanted to make the story how it most likely actually happened, taking away much of the myth and mysticism surrounding it all. Kind of like what they've done with the new King Arthur movie.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 4, 2004 11:08 AM
Yeah but that takes away the point of doing Troy as a film. You might as well do the Lord of the Rings and take out all the magic and monsters, (in reality the orcs were just really bad people). Its not as if the Greeks really belived the Iliad totally its just they didn't have the concept of making a completly fantastical world.
Should Troy have a satisfying end ultimatly its a tradegy, and anyway Aggamemnon does get killed but by his wife so why not include that?
In either case the new King Arthur film looks duff.
Its not that they have to stick to the book per say alot of it is either too boring or to trippy to put in a film but the myths as opposed to a vision of what "might really" have happened do provide the opportunity for some awsome fight scenes and a interesting sub plots.
By taking away the mythical elements they have made the obvious sequel the Odyssey very hard to pull off not least beacause the main problems Odysseys encounters are mythical, without them you essentially have long boat journey.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 7, 2004 7:23 AM
A realistic LOTR where the Orks are just bad people? Yea that probably wouldn't work but the difference is that LOTR wasn't based on reality, Troy was. Actually, some have argued that Tolken took alot of insperation for his story from World War II so maybe a realistic LOTR movie would be more like a WW2 film with a band of soldiers having to stop the dark lord Hitler.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 8, 2004 1:42 AM
Yeah people have said that LOTR is based on WWII but the edition I have has a foward by the man himself and he says that it definitly isn't an allogary. My point about Troy was that to all intents and purposes the Illiad WASN'T based on a real war. Its hard to really understand what the Ancient Greeks thought, they understood that a city/war had occured but they also realised that the epic was a myth, I just think that a better (enjoyable) film would have been to include more (though not all) elements of this myth. The "realistic" story isn't that interesting because it isn't that realistic, where are all of troys allies? and the Trojan horse is more likly to be a siege engine than the elborate deception which is found only in the myth.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 8, 2004 7:15 AM
Well perhaps there's another movie out there waiting to be made.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 26, 2004 3:51 PM
its the classic explicit vs. implicit violence argument. Braveheart is an in your face violence, very explicit, leaving very little for the imagination. LOTR is more implicit, showing glimpses which opens up the viewers imagination. I personally find this implicit type keeps the viewer engaged and allows for more stimulation of the imagination, making LOTR's battle sequences that much more epic and luring for the audience