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Mel Gibson's Passion of Money Kills Old Lady

Topic: Finance By Jack February 26, 2004 1:10 PM

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Mel Gibson's The Passion of ChristEveryone is talking about Mel Gibson's new picture The Passion of the Christ. Which is an allegedly anti-semtic, and very graphic film depicting the last hours of religious icon Jesus H Christ. Naturally, Jews dislike anti-semitism and are against the film while some Christians (possibly even the pope?) really dig it. Now some old lady dies watching it. But don't worry Mel, you're still making boatloads of money.

The Passion took in a whopping $23.6 million on it's opening day (Ash Wednesday), making it the biggest religious-themed movie opening since Charlton "gun-toting Republican" Heston's The Ten Commandments and Ben-Hur. Another excellent example of how controversy can be a great form of advertising.

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Passionate but accurate   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 26, 2004 10:14 PM

I've listened to the interviews and heard from many who have seen it.  It is viewed as the most accurate portrayal of the historically recorded crucifiction of Jesus Christ.  Amazing that anyone would suffer such brutal torture for a world that had rejected him as God.  That really is love.  Jesus could have given up and gone home but as we see in the film, he was willing to pay a high price to show us love.  Mel Gibson appartently has a cameo in this film, holding a nail as it is hammered into Christ's wrists.

Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 27, 2004 10:42 PM

The fact that Gibson NEEDED to make this PASSION because it was a deep form of catharsis, the fact that he invested 25 million + into this project, makes me break out in gales of disbelieving laughter that YOU would consider this a money making scheme when countless others were equally sure this would mean GETTING TANKED FOR GOOD.  Why the hell don't you JUST GROW UP?  You sound jealous, angry, and STUPID.

has anyone seen da movie?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 28, 2004 1:00 AM

i havent seen the movie yet, is it good?

come on!!!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 28, 2004 9:30 AM

the movie didn?t kill the old lady, her age did it!!!!

RE: has anyone seen da movie?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 28, 2004 9:33 AM

i did it before the premiere, in Rome...

is awesome, amazing, I?m sure it happened as in the movie..,

and there?s not antisemitism,

Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by Nila443 (nila443@hotmail.com) on February 28, 2004 7:50 PM

I just saw this movie today...Well, i think it's another brilliant work of Mel Gibson. As "Brave Heart was".
And i don't think it's only about religion in this movie or wanting to say that jews are bad. It's about to show how Mel saw, what was givven to him to say.
Most of the movie about jews are about how bed is there life, how we should cry for them. But hello, that did what they did, that was there Karma. And Mel just showed the truth. Most of the movie about them sponsored by Jews, so it's there point of view, how hopless there life but they are actually "so good" (like in the "Pianist").
It's an honest movie of the person who wanted to show what he felt, what he saw. I think he was chosen to say. By God. And i'm Hindu. peronally, and i am not the antisimit. But i think that's the best work i've ever seen so far. And i understand why Mel Gibson did it.
Good luck MEl!



Super Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 29, 2004 3:10 PM

117,000,000 and counting as of Sunday, Feb.29. Hope your eyes aren't too teary over that one....

RE: come on!!!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on February 29, 2004 3:13 PM

Yup..so Mel gets accused of being an anit-Semite, then he blasted for having too much violence, then that he's just trying to make a lot of money, yada, yada, yada...But to blame a movie for killing an old lady? Come on, unless you're an ambulance chasing attorney.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:04 AM

The TRUTH tells us that, "the rightious by heart will be humiliated by children of this world..." so it as it is. The rewards for the real truth is in heaven

RE: come on!!!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:07 AM

Two reasons: Age or her spiritual well being can any one of us point a finger to wich one of thies were the reasons for her death?. NO. Can we learn a lesson from this? yes

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:10 AM

The sad part is that when that time will come, it will be TOO late to catch on to what Mel was trying to express during that interview

RE: Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:18 AM

Nila I truly agree with you on Mel style. Most of his movies latly were about the heart. Grab the heart of the viewer in a special way. Now he "Picked up the Bible"... its a stone that will crush those who it will drop on and brake those who will fall on it. Go figure that that one out. But it says in the scripture and those who know thier shepard know the meaning of those words. My point is from his point of view. "If you decided to follow HIS steps change other people to belive. then get ready to take heat from the evil". The point is from the bible, but in my words.

RE: Super Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:33 AM

Of all the actors in Hollywood,who can take on a job of carefully and accuratly interprite thos most sensite part in the bible? "The Blood of Christ", "The Cross", "The prayer", The one who took our sins and desease on him self and wiped them off of us with HIS own blood? Very heard to pick those actors, so many are corupt by fame, at least Mel trully admits it to public that was like that but he changed (thats a brave man). My point is, to pick a man from the corupt "spiritually bankrupt" place like Hollywood and creat such a spiritually overwhelming film is just nothing more than the work of spirit to open up the eyes to those who are not "apples" nor "oranges". This movie is not for spiritual christians becuase of their spiritual level with God. Neve sit in a house of curroption. Hope it meant sense. Those who know the Bible well ask yourself? Would the Holy Ghost go with you to the theater where the same theater was used for vialence horror and so on viewing?

RE: Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 1:43 AM

To Mel: If God humiliated them for their actions then they truly are humiliated and so be it. Does God loves them? you better belive He does, country so small and yet so powerfull. Their fate is in the bible and its a good end for them but the road for jews is really rough to that end, because HE chose to bring US (the rest of the world) to salvation, to give us the opertunity be the sons of Abraham (freind of God. He chose and who are we to make it otherwise? It is on the spine of jews that our salvation is coming if we open our hearts. and it their spine it will be until the day the last "unjacobs" will step in the church of Christ "His bride" then the doors will close and Israel will live forever. Jewish people need not to make elephent out of fly's or call black white and white black, this is the very same reason why God was and is upset at them. its in the bible. Their house will be empty until HE will come in Glory and thats engraved in stone, they will see that day

so what?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 3:28 AM

In practically every other Mel Gibson movie he portrays the British as the evil bad guys but you don't see them demonstrating outside theatres. Now he's chosen to make it the Jews in this one, who cares? it's only a movie.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 1, 2004 8:19 AM

Don't forget how he made that 25 million plus. Also, Martin Scorcesse's career seemed to go on without a hitch after "The Last Temptation." Gibson's movie is not antisemetic, it just sucks. Especially the ridiculous comic relief where Jesus apparently is responsible for inventing the dinner table and the stupid albino baby that the devil carries around are just plain retarded plot points. And for a film that is supposed to follow the gospels, what is the deal with Veronica's veil, the crow pecking the eyes of the thief, the John 8 flashback (proven not to be from the original text), and the snake in Gethsemene? None of which are in the New Testament. He should stick to making movies about topics he knows about, like driving old black cops crazy with his special blend of suicidal, crazy cop antics. Joe Pecsi should have played John the Baptist. Maybe Tina Turner as the blessed mother?

The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by deistman (bbob40@comcast.net) on March 2, 2004 9:32 AM

There's been a lot of admonition to "read your bible" on here (as if that proves anything to anyone) but I would suggest that everyone find a copy of "The Dolorous Passion of Jesus Christ" upon which this movie is actually based.   It was written by a 14th century nun, and recounts her "vision" of the last 12 hours of Yehoshua's life.   I say Yehoshua because that was his name (so maybe people should read their Suetonius and Pliny as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
Here's my problem: If you were living in that area at the time, and you weren't Roman or Greek, you were a brown-skinned person.   The blond, blue-eyed, Italian impostor wasn't commissioned by the vatican until much later, and was painted from an actual Italian male model.    If this is so historically accurate, why is everyone white?   I'll tell you why.  The Nicean Council of 325 CE concerned itself with many things, but the most important was the Europeanization of the church and the centralization of Papal power.   Prior to that, most artistic representations of Yehoshua and his mother were black, with tight corn-rowed hair, and African facial features.   The oldest known painting of him can be found in the catacombs of Rome, and I assure you, he is black.   White Xtians always respond with a "What does it matter, etc." and to them I say, it doesn't matter a whit to me, since I am not a Xtian.  Paint him green, I don't give a shit.  But, please, stop going on and on about the Pope saying "It is as it was."   The Pope has a vested interest in keeping the status quo, always has, and is therefore an unfit arbiter of what is and isn't real or factual.   Also, you need to check out two other things that will smell a bit:
1.   Mel Gibson belongs to the Holy Family sect of Catholicism, which still performs the Mass in Latin, and still holds tight to many documents about the life of Yehoshua that have since been debunked as forgeries and what was officially called "Pious Fraud" at the time.    This sect holds also to a rigid and conservative interpretation of the bible, even claiming that the Canonic Gospels were actually written by the disciples they were named after.   This of course is impossible, since the earlist known Gospel doesn't even appear until the 2nd century CE.
2.  Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, whom he is studiously loath to reveal or talk about in public, is a notorious antisemite, who has written many books (pamphlets?) about the guilt of the Jews for the death of the savior, and about the illegitimacy of the current Papacy.   After reading this material (not too much, now, it is, after all, complete crap), watch the movie Conspiracy Theory.   It'll make you look at MellyG in a completely new light.
I have no doubt that the plan all along was for Yehoshua to die.   People need symbols, and the almighty knows this, but that begs the question of the culpability of God, not the Jews, who were just people of their time.   He sent me a different symbol, however, in the Buddha, and thank goodness the Euros didn't get their hands on him and turn his life into one allegory after another about suffering.    There is also beauty in the world, and I for one am thankful for it.
Namaste'
Bob

p.s. I am a former Xtian, and might have stayed one, had other Xtians evolved with the rest of creation, as it was intended.   As it stands, I cannot worship with other Xtians.  I just tagged this on here to let you know that I don't need ministering to, that I am enlightened and happy, and also that I am not a "Christ-baiter."   Anytime, under the auspices of religion and spirituality, any human can find piece, the creator is pleased.  Me too.

RE: so what?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2004 9:33 AM

It's only a movie? and who cares? if people are perenoid about bible they always avoid it, but when it comes to social life majority say "oh I'm christion ohh I'm a beliver". beliefe DOES NOT come without hearing. Hearing comes and should come from bible. But what if, what if people dont want that bible for many reasons (life, chores, fame, endolged in the ways of this world ) Can you say "who cares its only a movie?" can you?. Not trying to put you down in any way. The whole point behind is can you see the picture, can you see what been done in history for us? It will be sad on the last day of our breath puting ourself in pain and sadness for not accepting the calling, not accepting the point, the fact, the history, this is what happned, and lOOk,, this is how much blood was shed for me. Am'I gona go on in life the way I'M now or am'i gona change. God's hate not as much on the cold or hot .. God's anger is on the warm. It says that in revelation. We are in the end times belive it or not. Those who wana prepare their heart should pay attention to revelation from a spiritual point of view and their is no darkness in his word.

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2004 9:49 AM

Freind. If you found peace its great, not alot of people can get there. I do have to mention if that peace is not closly tied with bible "complete bible" (not "i belive this verse but not believe this verse" )thant that peace is not from above IT is NOT from the Holy Ghost. The devil is not so worried about his captured ones his furious about the church on earth and the true members of that church there is where he spends his time tempting, tourtering and trying to grab someone.. Be stong in your faith, if that peace bring u doupt that it does not corrilate with bible than.. get on gaurd and find true peace in your heart. Devil does not have a sign over his head im evil in this world. His clever and lier.. the only ones that fall under his trap are the weak.. and the ones that put themself as weak not realizing whos waiting for them. If people trying to mess with spiritual world they better stick with the whole bible, they are goign to be very thankfull to HIM that they did that. We will face spiritual world one way or another, its a fact.

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 2, 2004 10:47 AM

IF you want to get on the topics of white and black, and you want to get it from bibile point of view I have some quastions for you.
1) Was adam and eve black or white?
2) Who was the first black person in bible, and belive me there is one.
3) That first black person the "cursed" person, what did he do that he got punished by that curse?
4)Israel is sons of Jacob
5)Whos sons are palestinians and arabs? its in the bible my freind
6) If u did alot of digging in the old testament for fact. I have a quastion for you are black people are the sons of Jacob? are they the sons of Abrahams servent ( the one that he slept with and she gave birth to a great nation to just like Sarah)? Do some digging encourge yourself to find out the truth. and u will find the truth about who black people are. I dont hate black people never did. But i believe the truth. We as people have nothing in this world besides Truth, Love, and Forgivnes - The charactor of Christ.

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by deistman (bbob40@comcast.net) on March 2, 2004 1:34 PM

Yes, but you see, I do not believe in a devil.   I think men can become their own devils, assuredly, but, since I am not a Christian, I don't believe in all of that.   I believe that you do, however, so, for you, I am sure he is real.   Please, let's all discuss things on the same level here.  We were talking about a movie, and I was trying to make the point that Gibson did not adapt this from one of the gospels, but from the fevered brain of a madwoman in the middle ages. People are reacting to this as if he was sent by the almighty to make this film, and I just wanted to say that I disagree with that contention, and that there are glaring inaccuracies in the film.   That Yehoshua was a man of color is indisputable.  That Mr. Gibson's color  is GREEN is also beyond contestation.  Additionally, I can percieve of nothing missing in my life  that the Christian faith will provide.  If it floats your boat, and you have found peace, then the Creator has blessed you.   I have taken the middle way of the Buddha, and the creator has blessed me for it.  I see no difference, but I'm sure you do and will have something to say.  And that's okay too.

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by deistman (bbob40@comcast.net) on March 2, 2004 1:45 PM

Again, I don't believe in an actual Adam and Eve, so a discussion of their skin color would be merely chin wagging.    Since I don't believe in them, how can I have any belief whatsoever in the actions of their children or the consequences of those actions.   And, since I don't believe that the Almighty feels any different towards one ethnic group over another, I don't really care what the bible has to say about it.
Anthropologically and archaeologically, time and again, science has shown that the first people on this planet were Africoid in body and face.  You can flap that tattered KJV in front of everybody's face, but that doesn't change empirical science for the rest of the world, just for you.   If you wish to believe such things, well, live and let live, I say.
On a side note, I am a white man, German of ancestry, and have read dump truck loads of books (including the Bible, which I still read) in my 41 years.  That doesn't make me better than anyone else, but to pose the questions you posed just now to an educated man kind of seals off any debate or discussion, which is what a discussion board is supposed to be about.
One last thing, there ARE people who, when they hear "It's in the bible" will always respond "So what?"
I am one of those people.
On second thought, forget I posted.   We really don't have anything to say to each other.
Have a nice day.

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 3, 2004 8:08 AM

This is just my opinion but I just can't help but think that believing in God is no different to believing in Santa Clause or Bigfoot or aliens. In fact, if you look at it critically there's more proof that aliens exsist than there is God. I'm planning to see the movie the next chance I get because it sounds like an interesting story but I'm not going to get into a big argument about it one way or the other.

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 3, 2004 11:00 PM

God Bless

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 3, 2004 11:05 PM

Whats the whole point of beliving any way..

I'm sure Mel had some sort of a point there to why did he decided to make this movie. If beliving in the truth is the way to go then.. alot of quastions arise to your point of view on santa clouse and aliens.
Who cares about believing, whats it for any ways. But, if it is for something, what is it for? If its for salvation of some sort or passage to onther life. than, hmm do i wana spend eternity in antartica or green alien world? or Do I wana spend my eternity where there is no tears worries , stress, bills, sickness etc?..

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 3, 2004 11:08 PM

curious. I noticed you see bible is just text.


RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 3, 2004 11:12 PM

White Xtians always respond with a "What does it matter, etc." and to them I say, it doesn't matter a whit to me, since I am not a Xtian.  Paint him green, I don't give a shit.  But, please, stop going on and on about the Pope saying "It is as it was."   The ........

So u do admire truth can u go further on that?

RE: Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 4, 2004 1:51 AM

Why not just get on with living life to the fullest and not using the Bible as some sort of an instruction manual for life.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 4, 2004 7:22 AM

I think that if you asked Jesus into your heart and the Holy Spirit is living in you, then this movie would make more sense to you.  The whole crow pecking out the eye symbolizes satan.  This movie had a lot of demonic forces in it which made it awesome to watch.  So many people think that Jesus wasn't tempted, but it shows through out the whole movie that He was tempted just like you and I.  The whole Satan and baby thing, I would agree that was weird/freaky but to me that symbolized Satan mocking Jesus and the son of God.  Just to encourage you, don't just pick apart the movie as it being stupid, why don't you really think about what these things symbolize instead of mocking everything.

PASSION OF THE CHRIST   > reply

Posted by amanicjo (amannjo@aol.com) on March 4, 2004 7:46 AM

I went and saw this movie this past saturday and i can say that i will never be the same again.  to think that a man would die for me and for the whole entire world.  i would encourage you to not take life for granted, God sent you here for a reason and you do have a purpose in life.  you weren't created to take up space or air, no matter what anyone may tell you.  i don't know if any of you knew this but did you notice how Jesus was the only one up there that didn't get his legs broken, which means, when they broke the thiefs legs it made them suffocate, so when they stabbed jesus in the end to see if he was dead, water and blood poured out of Him, that meant that His heart basically just blew up and Jesus died of a broken heart.  it also says in the Bible that Jesus didn't have ONE broken bone. now i don't take life for granted and im so excited that i can live for him everyday!  i really hope that you enjoy the film and if you have any questions about it you should always ask someone...god bless

Passion baloney film   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 4, 2004 5:56 PM

I just dont like churches pushing R rated smelly melly movies.  You have to be pretty goofy to have to see movies to get the spirit! What's next - Super Bowl passion displays? The hell with the movies!

Mel Gibson   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 2:24 PM

I think Mel should
follow Christ's message and donate all of the profit of the Passion to the starving children of the world.  This is the only way that Gibson can convince me is not in it for the money.

RE: Passionate but accurate   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:00 PM

accurate my ass! How the hell would they know? Went and read the bible? Nonsense, im sure christ actually had the skin ripped down to the ribs and had to carry a 100 pound crucifix when he couldn't even walk.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:04 PM

Yes, I'm sure you know all about the christian religion, and think you can justify the violence in the movie. But you can't. Maybe if you realized that religion was created as something to keep peoples minds off of the problems of reality, you would then realize how badly this movie sucked. It was nothing but a 2 hour gore fest under the guise of being an important religious story. It would be rated NC-17 if it weren't about jesus.

RE: has anyone seen da movie?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:05 PM

Yea, the worst movie I have ever seen. First time I have felt compelled to go online and tell people about a movie.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:06 PM

Oh yes, heaven and truth and all that stuff. I'm sure it makes you feel much better about death. Unfourtunately, you are fooling yourself.

RE: Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:08 PM

GOD LOVES US ALL! YAY! GO WATCH JESUS DIE! ITS SO FUN! I'M HARDCORE CHRISTIAN

RE: so what?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:12 PM

YEA! THATS WHY U GOTTA WATCH THIS MOVIE! CAUSE JESUS DIED FOR YOU! NOW YOU TOO CAN FEEL SORRY FOR HIM WHILE HE GETS WHIPPED NONSTOP! YOU MUST BELIVE IN THE TRUTH! HAVE FAITH! I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT INVEST ALL MY TIME IN SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXSIST!

RE: The Passion of Christ   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:24 PM

YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PEACE IN JESUS! I HAD HIM IN BED LAST NIGHT! HE'S BLACK!

RE: PASSION OF THE CHRIST   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:29 PM

Dude, didn't you see that he was alive at the end? If he weren't alive, I wouldn't have been able to give him oral last night!

RE: Passion baloney film   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 5, 2004 10:33 PM

The only reason it isn't rated nc-17 is because its about jesus. Sound pretty stupid. What made mel gibson think that everybody wanted to be patronized and converted? What if i don't appreciate that jesus "died for my sins". People die everyday, I don't pretend it's a huge world changing event. That's because I belive in what's real.

Adios to the passion pushers   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 6, 2004 10:15 PM

I'm skipping church this Sunday and will until the church leaders get their "Act" together and stop pushing the passion movie like it was better then Christ Himself.   So goodbye to idolatry mel, you won't sucker me to your filth.  Let the chuches take notice and stop pushing R rated rat food!

calm down dude   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 7, 2004 8:40 PM

sounds like you didn't even see the movie. i thought it was great. i sincerly doubt mel gibson did it for the money and i'm very glad he made the movie bceause more people can have a greater understanding of what Jesus did for us...we heard your bias opinion i wanted to get mine in.

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 7, 2004 9:27 PM

If you think religion was "created", please just take a look at a book by C.S. Lewis entitled "Mere Christianity".  You might relate because he was an atheist who set out to prove God didn't exist but instead became one of the most influential Jesus followers of our time.

Jesus- yo da man!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 8, 2004 7:57 AM

Seriously, it was a great flick, there's just one thing I didn't get though, Why didn't Jesus just use his super powers and escape?

RE: Passionate but accurate   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2004 2:23 AM

You ASSHOLE. How can you think when your brain is fully loaded with SHIT !!!!

The best picture ever made.   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2004 8:01 AM

Praise King Jesus!
God is an awesome God, he reigns on heaven and earth. I thank God for Mel Gibson and for his diligence in making this movie. This is the best movie ever made.

RE: The best picture ever made.   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 9, 2004 7:43 PM

i havent seen it yet because people say its very graphic.
i dont care about that so can someone tell me what the movies like?

Not totally accurate   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 10, 2004 9:25 PM

The movie was as close to being accurate as any I've ever seen but I had 2 problems with it. First off the Bible plainly says that Jesus had no shame and John said that it a shame. (1st CORINTHIANS 11-14)(Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?) I know all the picture show him with long hair but he said that he left no images of himself behind so actually no one knows what he looks like. I know he didn't have long hair because he had no shame. SECOND. The movie pertrays Mary Magdalene as the woman that then men brought before Jesus for committing adultery and jesus wrote in the said and said (HE WITHOUT SIN, LET HIM FIRST CAST A STONE.)Mary Magdalene wasn't that woman. Mary Magdalene was the woman that had 7 demons in her and Jesus cast them out of her. Other than those 2 I think he went real close to the Bible.

Jesus: Ultimate Badass   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2004 3:35 AM

Overall it was pretty good but the ending sucked. They should have had Jesus take on hundreds of Romans like in The Matrix Reloaded and also have a big face off with Judas like Dragonball Z or something. That would've been hella cool.

WOW   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2004 4:42 AM

I knew the world was getting bad but reading some of your comments in here..It wouldn't suprise me if he come back today!!!!!

RE: Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 11, 2004 11:13 AM

You have to be the stupidest person I've ever heard babble on about a topic they dont know jack about....I think my I.Q. has actually dropped from reading your waste of time. Gibson is one of the most brilliant film makers of our time i.e BRAVEHEART, the true story of william wallace. In a movie like this, you need comic releif because the true story of our savior being crucified isnt a light topic to handle. Oh, and another thing, I'd like you to name ONE movie that is exactly precise to its script.....go ahead, I'm waiting.....cant do it? awww...too bad.And apparently you havent heard of another little film tool called symbolism......sound it out.....sym-bolism...very good. 2 gold stars.....The crow pecking the eye of the theif was symbolism of the man being tortured by satan, after turning away from christ. While we're at it, may as well clear up some other things you didnt understand.....the snake that satan offered christ was satan trying to turn christ away from god, and offer him service in hell. Now that we've finished todays esson, I'll letyou get back to being stupid. BYE


RE: come on!!!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 12, 2004 8:10 PM

She was only 57.  You're almost there!

RE: Passionate but accurate   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 14, 2004 12:03 PM

How sad you don't know what he really did for you!

Yea!!!!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 15, 2004 7:50 AM

Cool! The Rock would kick his ass though.

Interesting   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 15, 2004 7:03 PM

Interesting debate It seems that the main issue was WHY Mel made the film as opposed to how good the film actually is?  How good is it, say it was just telling a historical story I mean acting or direction wise?
I did notice the random guy trying to abuse the Christaians does anyone think anyone is listening to him.

What?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 16, 2004 10:41 AM

Who said anything bad about Christians?

RE: What?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 17, 2004 6:33 AM

The random guy who uses CAPITALS SO PEOPLE WILL NOTICE HIM i gather his comments would be offensive to some (I HAD JESUS LAST NIGHT HE WAS BLACK).
Any way about the film AS a film what was it like ( I dodn't care how Mr Gibson spends his money)

RE: PASSION OF THE CHRIST   > reply

Posted by Bunnie_Rabbot_18 (manic_the_hedgehog_18@yahoo.com) on March 17, 2004 9:30 AM

Gods, how shallow can you get, Shemp? This is pure ludricris what you are saying. As a christian myself what you are saying is pure childish driven bullshit! How can you even say that?? You may think it funny....but when you die, you'll face that man which you are ridaculing, and shaming with your biased comments. And I don't think he'll be too "Passionate" on your poor, sorry ass. >_O What you said, was so prevasive....All of what you have said/posted...it is all pure drivel,  my Dear Shemp. So, kiss my ass!

RE:The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 18, 2004 4:29 AM

For all we know Mel Gibson could be the second coming of Jesus, I mean how would you know?

NOPE   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 21, 2004 8:03 PM

Sorry partner but Jesus wasn't Black. Alot of people say he was black because of what John said when he saw him. They say that john said his hair was like Sheeps Wool. Their leaving out a word. He said his hair was WHITE like Sheeps Wool. He was 33 yrs old when he was crusified and left this world. How many 33 yr old black men do you know with NATURALLY White hair?


yea!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2004 6:28 AM

Yes, everyone know that Jesus was a white Republican.

TY   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2004 10:28 AM

TY

RE: yea!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 23, 2004 10:30 AM

Only a Black Queer would give that kind of response.

yea!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 24, 2004 7:13 AM

Yea! A black queer who eats fried chicken and smokes weed all day!

RE: Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 28, 2004 5:20 PM

dont make fun of god dying you dumba$$

RE: yea!   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 28, 2004 5:22 PM

who cares if god was black or white, all that matters is that he died for us and we should appriciate what he has done for us.

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on March 30, 2004 12:00 PM

He probaly had more of a middle eastern tan kind of thing going on, seeing as he was from that area.

RE:Andrey -  Mel Gibson and Money   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 8:09 PM

About the satan holding a baby. We know that in bible there is three God Son and Holy Spirit. We know that even in Jesus time (his desert temptation days) satan comes in sheep cloths and uses biblical words. It is been said that devil is nothing but a lier, blinder, stealer, killer, etc. To get to the point that baby that satan is holding is the coming of the Antichrist. Those who study bible closly know there will be the antichrist, it wont be the satan himself it will be his chosen one. Devil is a copycat always was in order to still and temp. But he faild, he faild to walk in rightousness. He had no truth in him right from bigining. his a copy cat and the baby is the coming of the antichrist. antichrist will come out from amoung us. Meaning from the so called chistians (just like judas came out to be judas out of the deciples) Thats why it says in bible "not every one of us are Gods". It will be very simmilar to the past. I'm not a future teller, but I do know what it says in bible that God never changed. He doesnt need to change like humans. Its also says in bible that the devil havent changed either. One will stand in Rightiousness for ever the other will fail and fall when his day will come. My opinion that baby simbolizes the coming spirit of the antichrist. Keep in mind devil is a spirit and its says he act and makes his attact through "the sons of opposition" "the cursed ones" "the lost ones" he works through them.

RE: Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 8:25 PM

Im so sure.. that you will remember thies words. If u forget u will see them again

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 8:38 PM

Interesting point "do i have to go watch the movie to get the spirit". I like your comment. You know theater is the wrong place to get the spirit. For you to mention those words i have to say u have some sense in u. You are totaly right about the finding of spirit in theater (movie). I would ask u a quastion though What is the history on Gallelie the place where Jesus hanged out? Who are the Gallelianians by nature?. As far as a I know that place was like "alchohol drinking", high tempered sailers, and thiefs and sinners I mean low lifes in there. Gallelie was a Port of dirty junkies. Jesus later on adimited 'I didnt come to the so called clean holy ones, i came to lost and sick ones that are in need' Thank you Lord for your everkindness

So as its been said in bible thos who have ears to listen listen. Interesting phrase. This will be an example of the ears. Is movies where u can get the spirit? or is it possible for the Holy Spirit to come visit the lost ones and give them a chance that comes so rarly in thos kind of settings?... go figure

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 8:50 PM

Why He didnt use super powers to escape?. hmmm.. its been said " who will go for us, to whom our strengt will open up too".. its been said.. its also been said then one got up.. the one from the clan of Juda. Through the famely tree of david he came to give salvation. He didnt use powers because He came to wash away are sins. He came not to show His powers but the obey His Fother, our father, He obeyed till death, thats why His getting the reaward that every knee will bow to Him. He will be the one to kill satan. He will take the pleasure of killing him for good. He didnt use His powers because He was assigned for this task before times. God saw this before Earth was created. I know more whacky quastions will come out of my statement. but belive me it is said in bible. I can go find it yourself. That thought bothers allot of christians. It all comes down to this. God is God he can do what ever He pleases adn who are we to tell him what to do.

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 8:56 PM

Here is a guy thats been reading. I wana ask u something? Every time you read the bible what is that one thing u keep finding over and over about yourself? Does it feel like a well that has no bottome?

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 9:34 PM

John said nothing about Jesus being black. About His Hair - Paul says their is deferent bodies. There is bodies in heaven and their is bodies on earth. God said let us creat a man by our image (intersting who He ment by "our" ) so that tells us ther is images of us in heaven. The difference is that there is no flesh in heaven. Flesh is dirt. Jesus was in the glory of His father before he came to earth. When he came to earth its said that there was to stand out in him. He was plain joe among Israel. Like father like son. What does revelation say and book of Daniel say about God himself? What does it say about his hair, its pure white and "he looked like aged man". White hair is a symble for age, wisdom, and in Gods terms Holy.

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 14, 2004 9:37 PM

Gods hates those who are Careless about truth and seeking the truth. You say who cares.... do u really mean that.?.. I hope not

RE: Andrey   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 15, 2004 6:05 PM

The only reason you believe in the religion you do is becuase your mom and dad told you it was the right one. To me that just sounds ridiculously fucked up.

RE: NOPE   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 4:03 AM

Not necessarily in the Odyessey they refer to BLACK sheeps wool

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 4:04 AM

To true

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 11, 2004 9:06 AM

Looks like I'm alone on this thread, I wonder how many posts I can get before someone shows up?
Well I didn't see the passion of Christ and even though I'm a practicing Catholic I'm not really that intrested in seeing it.
Now Kill Bill Vol2 was an excellent film as was Van Helsing but what should be intresting is the sequels to them what will they do hmmmm.

RE: The Passion   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 4:42 AM

HellBoy I hope they don't do a sequel to that is properly crap. Ah well I'm sure it will make money
Post2

RE:Stuff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 8:00 AM

Hello, thought you might like someone to talk to as talking to yourself is one of the first signs or madness. If any recent movie should get a sequel then it has to be The Passion of the Christ. I can seen the trailer now; "They thought it was over... They thought he was dead... They thought wrong" This summer Jesus is back and he's gonna whoop some ass.

Damn right   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 12, 2004 5:00 PM

I can see the tagline now.. "Jesus is back and this time its personal!"
The problem is that all the best third movie titles are taken, Armaggedon, Apocalypse Now, Return of the King...

RE: Passion 2   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 7:55 AM

Or: "This time... It's Biblical." How about, The Passion II: The Wrath of the Christ.

RE: Passion 2   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 13, 2004 9:02 AM

Of course the classic "Judgement Day" is just too obvious.
Hey is Troy out yet I've been looking foward to that.

RE: Passion 2   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 16, 2004 5:35 PM

Scratch my last comment Troyclearly is out now but the question is will it be any good.  Survey says.....

RE: Stuff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 17, 2004 9:06 AM

Haven't seen it yet, When's The Day After Tomorrow out?

Day after tommorow   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 5:41 AM

pretty soon maybe 3 or 4 weeks.
It looks like the ultimate disaster film in that after this hopefully they will never produce another one again.


RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 24, 2004 6:26 AM

In my country it's out the day after tomorrow.

RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2004 5:10 PM

Indeed.
Saw Troy a dodgy film if ever I saw one.
I also saw eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, hmmm can't make up my mind on that one.  Hopefully spiderman 2 will be good.

cul   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 30, 2004 7:19 AM

dAY AFTER TOMORROE WAZ Puty gud.

RE: cul   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 31, 2004 4:05 PM

Heard mixed reviews from it.  How much of it is is after the diaster + do they talk about the rest of the world at all.

RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 8:03 AM

It was good, they have a bit about other countries like hail storms in Japan and snow in India but it's mostly set in the US. There's one bit that's a bit like Independence Day with the Destoryers shoot their big lazer cannon but in this it's the eye of the storm where the cold air high up suddenly drops fast and freezes anything instantly.

RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 2, 2004 2:32 PM

Sounds cool.  Death count? (including estimates of people you dont see killed)

RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 3, 2004 6:27 AM

Don't know, probably about the same as Independance Day, give or take.

RE: TDAT   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 4, 2004 11:21 AM

Sounds interesting.  They havn't done a really big a post apoycalyptic film in ages.  You know guns straped to cars style.
If they do they shouldn't put desert every where to cliche.

RE: Mad Max   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 7, 2004 7:30 AM

I heard a while ago Mel Gibson was interested in doing another Mad Max movie.

RE: Mad Max   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 8, 2004 1:47 AM

That would be good but something different would have to happen init and no thunder domes please or tina turner.

Mad Max 4: Beyond Logic   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 8, 2004 7:22 AM

It could be set in the ocean rather than in the desert because the polar ice caps have melted and the whole world is now covered in water and Mad Max has to battle loads of bad guys in boats instead of cars and he's also looking for the mythical 'dry land'.

RE: Mad Max 4: Beyond Logic   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 10, 2004 3:30 AM

I'm thinking a big oil tanker for the HQ of the Bad Guys? Except this time everything doesn't sink so the movie makes money.

It would be interesting to see a film where there has been a nuclear winter

RE: Mad Max   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 10, 2004 8:12 AM

Wasn't that what was meant to have happened in the Mad Max movies?

RE: Mad Max   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 12, 2004 4:15 AM

In Mad Max everything was fucked but sunny I meant if it was during a nuclear winter so it would be real dark maybe people living partially in caves, that kind of thing.

Max is Mad   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 14, 2004 7:58 AM

In the event of a nuclear winter I don't think anything could survive on the surface, meaning that the whole movie would have to take place underground.

RE: Max is Mad   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 22, 2004 6:48 AM

It might be good though it couldn't have an end like logans run where everything was fine after all.
caves collapsing radation storms, strange mutants why wouldn't you want this movie made it could be called the decade the day after tommorow.

j   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 22, 2004 9:32 AM

But without the stupid age/hand thing

RE: j   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 1, 2004 4:36 AM

Yeah people would age normally except for the mutants you wouldn't know what age they were.

Anyone know anything about a film coming out called open sea or somthing like that.  Two people stranded in  the ocean it looks a bit boring and I was just wondering whether there is anything good about it.

RE: PASSION OF THE CHRIST   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 8, 2004 1:54 PM

If you are a Christian why are you using curse words?
Sorry that this is such a late reply, I just found this site.

RE: Just saw the movie...   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 20, 2004 9:36 PM

The antichrist walks among us, diguised as someone with half a brain, he makes crappy movies like the passion.  Two hours of  a blood fest is not my idea of a brilliant mind, or spiritual enlightenment.

people are writing these things   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 20, 2004 9:43 PM

You need spell check!

people are writing these things   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 20, 2004 10:03 PM

You need spell check!



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