A little background...
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Posted by sKillBot (travis@pulley.org) on September 17, 2001 10:04 PM
As I was listening to KBOO earlier today I heard one of the announcers mention this list as an example of corporate censorship. They just named a couple songs off it, and I was so interested in this issue that I called them up, pledged $20, and got more information about this. I rode my bike out to their office today and payed in cash, and thanked the people who inadvertantly brought this to my attention in person. I'm pretty sure they don't even know about dtheatre.com
Also, the news immediately following the program I was listening to had a very in depth segment on racial prejudice in the United States. KBOO does an amazing job of reporting such important issues while the other stations are playing commercials about McDonald's incredible new turdburger. If you have no knowledge of what a great service this station provides to the community, then I think you have no business in knocking them for news you don't want to believe. However, as one of our mighty army of shemps, feel free to take any cheap shots at the DT crew.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2001 1:37 PM
Then why not censor everything that has anything to do with fire, bombs, terrorists, and airplanes. "Bon Voyage Charlie Brown" had an airplane in it, we should ban it. Oh, and that Bugs Bunny cartoon about the gremlin! He almost crashed in that plane we can't show that anymore. No more Con Air, Die Hard or any of that stuff. Gimme a F@$#in' Break! What does any of these movies and songs have to do with what happened on 09/11/01? Don't get me wrong, what happened was terrible and If I could turn back time(uh-oh, another song we should ban.)I'd do something to stop those cowards I would. However, what we don't need is for "concerned" groups or individuals telling us what's not good for use to watch and listen to! If your going to be afraid of these cowards and start changing up your written material, film trailers(Spider man) and your playlist(which frankly suck a@# to begin with), then they win and we may as well all sign up with Bin Laden.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 18, 2001 6:03 PM
Frankly,I don't believe this story. I have actually heard the song "America" by Neil Diamond played on Monday night on a local radio station owned by this company. I was offended but only because it was Neil Diamond and I purposely listen to that station so that I don't have to hear crappy music like that. It is such a mundane song, though, as are too many on that list. Therefore, I think this list is a hoax. I do think that there is a deeper message here. We are going to have to face the fact that many of the freedoms we had in the past are not going to be anymore. We are not going to be as FREE anymore. There is going to be war, we will more than likely put a cap on immigrants, especially those from certain areas of the world known to be hostile to our country, and we may not be able to get on an airplane with a nail file in our carry on bag. This is a reality we will have to face. Our country will never be the same as it was 8 days ago and it is up to us as citizens to decide how much we are willing to give up to feel safe. I went abroad this summer and took a pair of scissors on the plane with me in my carry on (I was doing embroidery) and it scares me to think that someone else might be able to get scissors on for a evil purpose. I think I would rather NOT have the right to take just anything on the plane with me and I would rather be strip searched, if it meant cowards like the hijackers couldn't get on a plane with me.
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Posted by Little Old Lady English (oldhousemom@razorback.com) on September 19, 2001 1:49 PM
Keep your pantyhose on, Jack. It looks like someone is yanking your chain. Granted some folks may have been looking for years for some legitimate reason to censor Elton John, but it aint happening in America. My guess is that this list is either a complete hoax, or a list of "sensitive issue" songs that radio DJs should be aware contain references to violence, war, airplanes ("Bridge Over Troubled Water"? Gimme a break. "When you're weary/ feelin' small/ when tears are in your eyes/ I'll dry them all"?) or some type of sadness, which may in fact, induce weeping in the listening audience. Uh, I dunno, sounds like the healing process to me. "I can't believe the news today/ I can't close my eyes and make it go away/ How long, how long must we sing this song?"
In response to this being a hoax
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Posted by sKillBot (travis@pulley.org) on September 19, 2001 7:12 PM
I reported this story a little before (I think) it showed up on such reputable places as f*ckedcompany. Have you read the response!? Remember when the RIAA said they didn't really mean to sue the guy giving a presentation on the SDMI challenge? For those of you who haven't caught on to my point, they're covering their asses with everything possible.
Please try not to be so gullible. This message was sent to every station - and while not requiring them to actually ban these songs, this represents a great amount of pressure to not play them.
Think about it, one company owning all those radio stations - they're going to want a lot of control over what gets played. They hire program directors who follow orders and dj's that rely on playlists. I'm not making this stuff up! Commercial radio is a well orchestrated system that's fueled by big profits. They didn't want to look bad by playing these songs, and now that word's out, they don't want to look bad about that. Use your heads people, argue all you want about this being untrue, but think of where this argument comes from and what interest that source has in making people believe this.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 20, 2001 1:23 AM
Yeah, it's probably just somebody trying to get our gander up. And, much to their delight, it's working. I'm thinking of two lines from 'The Crow'-- "Buildings burn. People die. But real love lasts forever." And, even more topical, "This is the really REAL world..." Let's face it: these songs exist. They will continue to exist, even if wimpy radio execs were made skittish by them. I mean, I've yet to hear one person comment on the fact that the local football team is called the New York Jets. Should they change the team's name just because it's become ironic? One last thing I'd like to bring up: does it not concern anyone but me that the only people Cap'n George is aiming guns at right now is US? Think about that.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 21, 2001 6:57 PM
from the ap..
Music Industry Walks Fine Line
Updated: Fri, Sep 21 4:49 PM EDT
By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer
NEW YORK (AP) - Roberta Flack's poignant "Killing Me Softly" is usually considered mellow and endearing enough to merit countless replays on "lite" music stations.
But after the terrorist assault in New York and Washington, the title alone was enough to get it taken off the air at KISQ, an R&B radio station in San Francisco.
"I didn't want to play that for the first week," KISQ program director Michael Erickson said. "I just don't want to hear those words right now, and that's subjective for me."
Those in the music industry are walking a fine line since the Sept. 11 attacks, trying to entertain while remaining sensitive to the pain still fresh across the nation.
Radio stations are playing patriotic tunes like "God Bless America," Ray Charles' "America" and Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the U.S.A.," and MTV - better known these days for shows like "Jackass" - is airing more soothing fare, digging into their archives to play such inspiring songs as Bob Marley's "One Love," Mariah Carey's "Hero" and George Michael's "Freedom."
"I definitely get the sense that people are turning to music that's very meaningful to them from a spiritual standpoint, and maybe a political standpoint," said Arista Records President Antonio "L.A." Reid, whose label re-released Whitney Houston's version of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
Denver rock station KBPI is among the stations who have been playing Houston's song, besides other patriotic tunes, like Jimi Hendrix's version of the national anthem.
"We've gone out of format and played a Don Henley song called a 'New York Minute,"' said Bob Richards, the station's programming director.
Greenwood's 1984 song "God Bless the U.S.A.," repopularized during the Persian Gulf War, appears to be far the biggest patriotic tune of the moment: Billboard's latest Top 100 shows it's become the 16th-most popular song in the country.
Other new songs have gotten a boost from the tragedy, such as New Age star's Enya's "Only Time," according to Sean Ross of Airplay Monitor.
While poignant, inspirational songs may have gotten more airplay since the tragedy, others have gotten the boot.
At KISQ, Erickson re-evaluated his playlist immediately after the attacks - yanking songs that could be misconstrued, such as the Gap Band's 1982 dance hit "You Dropped A Bomb On Me."
"As we started to play the music, we're just more conscious about not playing anything that would be considered in bad taste," he said.
Richards stopped playing songs by Megadeath simply because of the band's name. He also pulled a song by Drowning Pool called "Bodies."
"I made a decision that some of our programming wasn't appropriate for the mood of our audience," he said. "That's not to say that we're not going to go back to that - we will, when the time comes."
Richards, whose station is part of the nation's largest radio station group, Clear Channel, even drafted a list of songs that could be considered troublesome and shared it with other programmers. Clear Channel, which owns some 1,200 stations, also confirms that one of their officials sent programmers a suggested list of songs to steer clear of.
Richards and Erickson, whose station is also owned by Clear Channel, denied there was edict to ban certain songs.
"It was a matter of good taste, and being sensitive to the needs of the audience," Erickson said.
MTV's Tom Calderone said his network was particularly sensitive not to show videos with violent or disturbing imagery, adding: "There's so many great songs that maybe haven't been heard in a while."
Although feel-good videos dominated the station's airwaves right after the attack, things have been returning to business as usual, to a degree: "TRL" began airing with an audience this week, although the fans have been considerably muted.
Similarly, the industry is returning to the business of selling their music. At Arista, singer-producer Babyface was rescheduling promotional appearances for his new album that were canceled after the attacks; performers such as Jay-Z resumed doing concerts this week.
Industry figures show that the terrorist assault did not decrease record sales: In fact, statistics from Soundscan, which tracks record sales, show sales of the top 200 albums actually increased, to 5.1 million for week ending Sept. 16 from 4.7 million during the previous week.
Although some small tours were canceled, others by performers such as Britney Spears and U2 have been unaffected.
Some artists canceled appearances overseas for fear of flying, and rapper Ja Rule decided he will only travel by bus for his upcoming nationwide tour.
Suzanne Vega, whose album "Songs in Red and Gray" is being released Tuesday, canceled plans to go to Europe, but she's still going ahead with plans to tour the United States and promote the new album.
Nonetheless, she said: "It's a bizarre situation to try to sell a product at this moment."
just to put it in perspective....
god bless US
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 24, 2001 1:53 PM
i think that some idiot CEO panicked and just wanted to not play songs that would freak people out (or seemed in any way inappropriate) and had no idea what music was what (even tho he's in the music biz, but like most of the people in charge of big music biz, has absolutly no clue about music and call it a 'product') and decided to pull anything deemed anti-american, criminal, about airplanes, new york, and big tall buildings because he was afraid of lawsuits..
probably was a memo this guy sent out without checking with the other execs as a kneejerk reaction and the company's trying to cover it up to save face for the exec and the company itself.
not a big deal, i heard most of the songs on the radio lately
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 26, 2001 2:35 PM
I'm kind of confused by all this.Let me explain, first rock and roll was to vulgar for
"teenagers" in the 50's,
(Elvis shaking all over the stage) then it was about "drug" related trip's in the 60's, the
"70's" gave us long haired freak's,and the"80's and "90's" it was all sex drugs and profanity,now you say the song's are to vocalistic because of the terrorist attack's,.
Damn and all this time I thought the song
"WIPEOUT" was about sufing, oh well I'll have to listen to them
all again and think this through,......
WINDWARRIOR
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 3, 2001 8:41 AM
here's the real skinny on this story....
Claim: Clear Channel Communications banned their American radio stations from playing specified songs in order to avoid offending listeners.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]
Those of you in the Thought Police will find the following encouraging. Others of you might find it troubling:
In response to Tuesday's terrorist attacks, Clear Channel, the world's largest radio network, has sent out a list of some 150 "lyrically questionable" songs by everyone from the Animals to the Zombies which it has banned its stations from playing. Some songs are overtly violent in their intent, but the majority simply contain metaphorical language or narrative aspects that connect uncomfortably with the tragedy.
Clear Channel's List of Songs with Questionable Lyrics
Drowning Pool "Bodies"
Mudvayne "Death Blooms"
Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive"
Megadeth "Sweating Bullets"
Saliva "Click Click Boom"
P.O.D. "Boom"
Metallica "Seek and Destroy"
Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow"
Metallica "Enter Sandman"
Metallica "Fade to Black"
All Rage Against The Machine songs
Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole"
Godsmack "Bad Religion"
Tool "Intolerance"
Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World"
AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames"
AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill"
AC/DC "Dirty Deeds"
AC/DC "Highway to Hell"
AC/DC "Safe in New York City"
AC/DC "TNT"
AC/DC "Hell's Bells"
Black Sabbath "War Pigs"
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution"
Dio "Holy Diver"
Steve Miller "Jet Airliner"
Van Halen "Jump"
Queen "Another One Bites the Dust"
Queen "Killer Queen"
Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield"
Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party"
REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It"
Talking Heads "Burning Down the House"
Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"
Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell"
Pink Floyd "Mother"
Savage Garden "Crash and Burn"
Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me"
Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian"
Pretenders "My City Was Gone"
Alanis Morissette "Ironic"
Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time"
Fuel "Bad Day"
John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire"
Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling"
Kansas "Dust in the Wind"
Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"
The Beatles "A Day in the Life"
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
The Beatles "Ticket To Ride"
The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da"
Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"
Arthur Brown "Fire"
Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You"
Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die"
Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe"
Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes"
John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down"
John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire"
U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
Boston "Smokin"
Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young"
Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction"
Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"
Drifters "On Broadway"
Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel"
Los Bravos "Black is Black"
Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces"
Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love"
Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"
Zombies "She's Not There"
Elton John "Benny & The Jets"
Elton John "Daniel"
Elton John "Rocket Man"
Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire"
Santana "Evil Ways"
Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World"
Youngbloods "Get Together"
Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City"
Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind"
Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"
Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday"
Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
Happenings "See You in Septemeber"
Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move"
Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525"
Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky"
Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen"
Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again"
Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken"
Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve"
Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run"
Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets"
Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"
San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World"
Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times"
Don McLean "American Pie"
J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss"
Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day"
John Lennon "Imagine"
Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife"
The Clash "Rock the Casbah"
Surfaris "Wipeout"
Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die"
Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces"
Tramps "Disco Inferno"
Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died"
Frank Sinatra "New York, New York"
Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band"
The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"
Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal"
3 Doors Down "Duck and Run"
The Doors "The End"
Third Eye Blind "Jumper"
Neil Diamond "America"
Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away"
Tom Petty "Free Fallin'"
Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire"
Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down"
Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"
Alice in Chains "Rooster"
Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow"
Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole"
Alice in Chains "Them Bone"
Beastie Boys "Sure Shot"
Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
The Cult "Fire Woman"
Everclear "Santa Monica"
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot"
Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly"
Korn "Falling Away From Me"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge"
Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
System of a Down "Chop Suey!"
Skeeter Davis "End of the World"
Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man"
Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her"
Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"
Fontella Bass "Rescue Me"
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress"
James Taylor "Fire and Rain"
Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War"
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"
Green Day "Brain Stew"
Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven"
Sugar Ray "Fly"
Local H "Bound for the Floor"
Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"
Bush "Speed Kills"
311 "Down"
Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated"
Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun"
Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"
Origins: It's not unusual in a time of sadness and mourning such as the one following the September 11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. that radio and television stations temporarily suspend the airing of material -- programs, songs, advertisements -- that might be considered insensitive or in bad taste. Just as an airline wouldn't show in-flight films featuring airplane crashes, especially after a particularly horrible airliner accident, so entertainment outlets generally opt to temporarily dispense with material dealing with death and disaster in the wake of terrible real-life events. So, many radio stations have recently invoked voluntary moratoriums on songs which refer to airplanes, crashes, violence, and death in their lyrics or titles.
Accordingly, a program director at Clear Channel Communications (an organization which operates over 1,170 radio stations in the United States), after discussions with program directors at several of Clear Channel Radio's stations, compiled an advisory list of songs which stations might wish to avoid playing in the short term:
After and during what was happening in New York and Washington and outside of Pittsburgh, some of our program directors began e-mailing each other about songs and questionable song titles
Given the environment, a Clear Channel program director took it upon himself to identify a number of songs that certain markets or individuals may find insensitive today. This was not a mandate, nor was the list generated out of the corporate radio offices. It was a grassroots effort that was apparently circulated among program directors.
Note that The New York Times posits a smaller, earlier version of the list did originate in Clear Channel's corporate offices:
Others in the Clear Channel network . . . said that a smaller list of questionable songs was originally generated by the corporate office, but an overzealous regional executive began contributing suggestions and circulating the list via e-mail, where it continued to grow.
Other than some rather questionable choices of songs, the only thing remarkable about this list is that so many sensation-hungry news outlets have attempted to spin it as an outrageous mandate by Clear Channel to "ban" certain songs from the airwaves. Clear Channel did not issue the list to their stations as a directive mandating that the listed songs not be played, as Robert Hilburn noted in the Los Angeles Times:
The Clear Channel list is apparently not a flat prohibition against these songs by the nation's largest chain of radio stations. They are simply recordings whose appropriateness has been questioned by individual program directors.
Radio personnel were still free to make their own programming decisions, and the list was merely intended as helpful advisory information. For example, a program director scanning a list of song titles might not immediately recall that the lyrics to James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" are widely perceived as referring to a plane crash which supposedly claimed the life of his girlfiend (they don't), but the title's appearance on the list might help call that to mind.
Clearly (no pun intended), Clear Channel's stations were still making their own choices about what music to program, as The New York Times reported:
The move by Clear Channel, whose collective broadcasts reach more than 110 million listeners in the nation weekly, was voluntary. Many stations, including some in the New York area, said they were disregarding the list, which was distributed internally . . .
. . . compliance with the list varied from station to station. Angela Perelli, the vice president for operations at KYSR (98.7 FM) in Los Angeles, said the station was not playing any of the listed songs and had previously pulled a couple of the cited songs, "Jumper" by Third Eye Blind and "Fly" by Sugar Ray, on its own accord. On the other hand, Bob Buchmann, the program director and an on-air personality at WAXQ-FM (104.3) in Manhattan, said that some songs on the list ("American Pie" by Don McLean, "Imagine" and others) happened to be among the most-played songs on his station. In the meantime, the station decided not to broadcast some songs even though they did not make the list, such as "When You're Falling," a collaboration between Peter Gabriel and Afro-Celt Sound System that had fictional lyrics too eerily similar to the truth.
(Despite Slate's spin on the issue, Clear Channel did not deny that such a list existed. They maintained, correctly, that "Clear Channel Radio has not banned any songs from any of its radio stations.")
Although some of the entries on this list might make it appear a humorous parody at first glance, many stations are indeed forgoing even songs such as "What a Wonderful World" under the philosophy that upbeat music is inappropriate at this time:
Top 40 Z104 (WWZZ), owned by Bonneville, was pulling certain songs from the air because of their titles, such as Dave Matthews's "Crash Into Me." But General Manager Mark O'Brien said most songs that were yanked from the air were done so because of their "happy-go-lucky, life is great" tone. "Anything up-tempo is still off the air today," he said yesterday.
Giving a pass to songs such as "Ticket to Ride" or "I Go to Pieces" or "Ruby Tuesday" simply because of their titles might be a bit extreme, but there's no telling what an audience might find upsetting in the current climate, as the Washington Post reported:
Despite the efforts, some songs deemed inappropriate slipped through the cracks. The reaction was swift in at least one case, suggesting that people's sensitivities are on high alert. Over the weekend, WASH played Kool & the Gang's "Celebration," which brought a polite if reproachful call from one listener, who was assured by the station the song's broadcast was a mistake.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on November 1, 2001 4:31 PM
(f*ck IT ALL, f*ck THIS WORLD, f*ck EVERY THING THAT U STAND FOR, DON'T BELONG, DON'T EXCIST, DON'T GIVE A sh*t, DON'T EVER JUDGE ME-)
[SURFACING, SLIPKNOT]
THIS IS f*ckING BULL sh*t MOTHER f*ckERS. THIS sh*t NEEDS TO END NOW, RIGHT NOW, OR SOME SERIOUS sh*t WILL GO DOWN MOTHER FUKERS!
WELL THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS BULL sh*t STAY (SIC) MOTHER f*ckERS.
You are wrong
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on October 20, 2003 4:41 PM
What are you thinking? This is completely wrong, although I respect that you have an opionion, but you are wrong. These songs represent the way these artists are thinking; what they are feeling; how they feel on a certain topic. As you've proved, everyone has their own opinion, and these artists have they're opinions, and you can speak out against them, like I and many other people are. And, It is most people's opinion that this music is incredibly well writen, says a message, and is great to listen to. And as sad as I am about 9/11, I find it incredibly unfair that you sling mud at these brilliant, succesfull artists. Thank you
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