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By Azad August 23, 2001 6:20 PM
(SCI FI Wire) State regulators have proposed fines of nearly $59,000 against Sony Pictures for safety violations on the Spider-Man movie set for a March 6 accident in which a welder was killed, Variety reported. California's division of Occupational Safety and Health cited nine violations against Columbia Pictures in its notification, the trade paper reported.
Variety said that Sony had no comment. State officials told the trade paper that the studio had not indicated if it will appeal the findings. Sony has until Sept. 6 to file an appeal.
Welder Tim Holcombe died after being struck in the head when a boom extension toppled onto an aerial basket in which he was riding at the former Rockwell International aerospace plant in the Los Angeles suburb of Downey, where the movie was shooting. Most of the proposed penalty came from two violations: $25,000 for alleged use of a shop-made extension to a forklift, which caused the forklift's load capacity to be exceeded and the forklift to become unstable; and $25,000 for allegedly making the modification to the forklift without prior written approval from the manufacturer, Variety reported.
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RE: Fines For Spidey Death 
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 7:09 PM
All's well that ends welder.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 24, 2001 6:43 AM
This has to be one of the most tasteless and inappropriate responses to an industrial accident I could possible imagine. It's not that I don't have a sense of humor, but the pun really sucks.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 24, 2001 10:58 AM
What really blows is that $59,000 is a drop in the bucket for a studio.
These studios are into making the most bang for the buck, but often they love to do it at the expense of the workers safety--sometimes even the actors. (Anyone remember Brandon Lee?)
Perhaps 5.9 million for Sony would have sent a clearer message.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by scichick (imscichick@ivillage.com) on August 25, 2001 9:09 AM
1. I can see why you're a random shemp! Something like that would be funny in a cartoon, but it's different when it's real life. I guess you've been 'de-sensitized' by the world of make-believe and video games. Look what you did! I've just turned into my mother!
2. Who gets the fine $$$ anyway? Maybe in accident cases like this, a matching amount should be given to the guys family, too!
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 25, 2001 1:53 PM
I agree that pun was done in very poor taste.
The welders family could happen upon this sight,and would really be sickened by that pun.
This is a real tragic situation, and his family has my condolences.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 25, 2001 1:58 PM
ROTFLMAO
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 26, 2001 2:43 PM
(no comment.)
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 26, 2001 9:51 PM
I would kill a wielder for 59,000
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2001 3:24 AM
I believe the fines are meant to address the violations, not the death. The same fines would theoretically be applied even if nothing went amiss. It's not as if paying the fines protects Sony from a wrongful death suit from the bereaved family.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2001 4:20 AM
ok, that's it. you people are all f*cked. i'm taking this service off my homepage immediately.
f*ck off a--holes.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 27, 2001 6:42 AM
I would kill you for free.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 27, 2001 11:28 AM
Of course these fines don't "protect" Sony from killing again. The point is they will sacrafice safety over budget EVERYTIME. If the fines were stiffer they might start to pay attention.
By the way, you should be fined for not paying attention too.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 27, 2001 12:37 PM
Nice Fred, very nice. I still laugh everytime I see this comment.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 27, 2001 1:20 PM
GRAZI
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by Kyoss9 (katman9x@yahoo.com) on August 27, 2001 5:54 PM
The truth of the matter is... There's no HOPE. U can only live ur life for the LORD!!!!!!! Does this make sense anybody? I hope so.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 28, 2001 3:42 PM
Hey, how come spiderman didnt save that weilder? ol spidey is falling down on the job.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 28, 2001 5:45 PM
"Protect Sony from killing again"?
You mean "prevent", right?
I AM paying attention. I am paying attention to the function and legality of the individual fines. If OSHA did it's job and caught Sony for every violation they ever committed, those fines would likely rack up pretty fast and serve as an actual deterrent, whereas a $5.9M fine for two safety violations would be contested as being excessive and in violation of the Eighth Amendment. Again, they're being fined for safety violations. The state is NOT fining them for killing someone, at least not yet. Apparently no one's thought to put that into legislation.
A $5.9M Wrongful Death suit, on the other hand, would be precedented and likely the only thing that'll stop Sony's reckless behavior at this point.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 28, 2001 5:56 PM
In other words, huge fines and mediocre enforcement are no substitute for reasonable fines and rigorous enforcement.
Enforcement, having already dropped the ball, leaves it to litigation to pick up the slack.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 29, 2001 1:09 PM
I heard that spiderman's double died doing a stunt.
I heard the double was supposed to swing through a wall and jump on a roof, but he only went through the wall and hit the next wall instead of jumping on it's roof.
Any body know if it's true?
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 31, 2001 1:22 PM
Do you realize that the FBI looks into comments like this?
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by Pauleywog (pauleywog@home.com) on September 2, 2001 1:49 AM
I totally agree. This person is a jerk. He would probably kill his own mother for the almighty dollar too. What a freak.
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 4, 2001 8:37 AM
Hello???
Wasnt Bradon Lee Shot?
I dont think it was an
"accident".
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 4, 2001 12:11 PM
if she was a weilder
RE: Fines For Spidey Death reply
Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on September 4, 2001 4:43 PM
yeah it's true! what probably happened was that the stunt guy smacked into the boom extension causing both of them to be killed.
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