By Unknown August 14, 2001 3:09 PM
NOTE: These are the opinions and ramblings of an avid StarWars fan and Dtheatre.com reader. Dtheatre.com had nothing to do with the writing of this release.
It seems as though some StarWars Fans have had just about enough. ?What started as one man?s protest has escalated into something larger than even he imagined. ?Upon hearing the new title given to Episode II (Attack of the Clones) Brady Nelson nearly jumped out of his Mandelorian Armour. ?"Not again!" ?"I won?t be abused like this again." ?Living in ?a suburb of Toronto, Canada, Nelson began his little revolution. ?"I was tired of being treated like a Moron. ?Lucas has this mass following. He has all of these loyal fans who follow everything that he does, yet he treats them with no respect. ?When he released the original trilogy on VHS we bought it. ?When he released the SE trilogy on VHS we bought it. ?When he released it a third time yet again on VHS we bought it. ?We?re the same people that put up with the title "Phantom Menace" and got in line for hours to see f*cking Jar Jar Binks. ?And what does he do for an encore, "Attack of the Clones". ?Well I?ve had enough."
By phone, email and through print, Nelson started what has become the hottest topic of the summer. ?An estimated 50,000 people of all ages showed up at Molson Park in Barrie, Ontario yesterday to hear what Nelson had to say. ?Keeping it short, the new ruler of the galaxy, hit on some points that he felt were uncalled for, such as the non-release of the original Trilogy as well as the Indiana Jones Trilogy to DVD. ?He then touched on the new title and how something had to be done. ?With that he started a plan into action that could cause major waves for Lucas Films. ?Before appropriately ending his speech with "May the force be with you, always" Nelson told everyone to go out and convince 3 people to email Lucas at the STARWARS.com site and voice there discontent with the new title as well as there eventual boycott of the film. ?Brady asks that you cc: him on all emails to Lucas so he can keep and accurate count. ?He also told each person to make sure that the three people they tell, must tell three more people and so on. ?(He must be a big fan of "Pay It Forward")
With a roar from the crowd Nelson introduced rockers ?The Tragically Hip" and "Our Lady Peace" who entertained the audience for the rest for the rest of the evening.
So far the plan has been working. ?An estimated 200,000 people have contacted Nelson to let him know that they are with him and that they will boycott the film. ?The cause knows no borders, as some of the angry fans were from Europe as well as the upper United States. ?The numbers are not that staggering yet, but if you take the number of people and multiply that by the price of an average movie ticket, it starts adding up.
With the film not slated to be released until the summer of 2002, it leaves almost a year for Nelson to complete his mission. That mission is to get justice for all those who shell out there hard earned dollars to follow the adventures of the first family of space.
Lucas Films was not available for comment.
Brady Nelson can be reached at attackoftheclonesprotest@hotmail.com
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 14, 2001 3:27 PM
Nice try Jack. I don't think you REALLY tried to contact Lucas films for comment. You just pulled it off the other threads and rewrote it. Looks darn pretty too. AND for our brothers in the 51st state, I hope they keep the title just to piss you all off.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 3:27 PM
Who rated it as the hottest topic of the summer?
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Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 14, 2001 3:32 PM
Most probably Brady Nelson.
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 14, 2001 3:39 PM
Sorry Jack. I read your new disclaimer. I thought you had a hand in the rewrite. Anyway, long live shemp mentality!
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Posted by Jack (jack@dtheatre.com) on August 14, 2001 3:47 PM
No problem, I was trying to find the actual user name of the "Brady Nelson" if he had one, so I could post it as him (he submited it via "submit a story" 3 times as "A Random Shemp"). Didn't realize I'd get 2 comments in the space of 13 seconds while I was changing the text and the user.
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 14, 2001 4:04 PM
That darn Internet. I figured ever since Al Gore invented it that he would have worked out the bugs by now ; )
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 4:52 PM
While the title is really stupid, I just don't get the big uproar over it. These people forget that Star Wars is one man's vision...it's not a democracy. If you don't like the title, make your own mediocre Sci-fi movie and pad it with tons of special effects to cover up the fact that there is no plot or decent dialog. :)
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Posted by apathy (jnichols@surfsouth.com) on August 14, 2001 6:32 PM
????I tend to agree that the title is somewhat early 80's-ish, but I love Star Wars and cannot forfeit going to see the new movie I've been waiting to see for three years. Lucas may change the title...he may not...in any case I'll be in line at 5am like the rest of the dorks a week in advance to get 400 tickets for people who were too lazy to do it themselves just so I can sit next to some schweaty idiot who forgot to turn his cellphone off and sit in front of someone who has to comment on every damn thing about the movie louder than the baby who's crying in the back because its parents couldn't spend a whole 20 bucks for a babysitter....(breathe)..(breathe). Ok...I'm done.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 7:21 PM
quit your b*tchin all of you!! What a bunch of babys! I mean really...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 7:49 PM
I agree with everyone who thinks the title sucks major ass, but its not about the title. its about kickin Jar Jar's ass!!!
Brady Bunch losers
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 8:05 PM
Please, get a life BRADY NELSON. As if any moron is going to boycott a film just because they don't like the title. How superficial can you get? Go ahead and avoid the film if you like - you'll be the only one. Imagine if we all decided on whether or not we watched a movie based on its title? I mean come on - surely a movie is so much more than its name? Why don't you campaign for a proper cause - like getting a real name, Marsha.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 14, 2001 8:42 PM
What the heck is George Lucas's e-mail address?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 3:03 AM
What the hell's wrong with Attack of the Clones? Don't forget these are supposed to be chapter titles in a saturday morning comic book, and that's exactly what they sound like.... i mean... 'A new hope'?? that's just as bad, but it works fine in the context. So stop whining all of you and enjoy the film like we all know you will.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 4:14 AM
Sounds like you are at every movie i go to.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 4:35 AM
I agree the title sucks, but I think what this guys problem is, he is a major star wars fan and will be too embarrassed by the fact that not only will he be one of the first in line to see 'attack of the clones', but will also be among the first in line to own it when it comes out on DVD/VHS later on. He will protest to his dying day about the title, but will have to have the film in his personal collection regardless of how he feels about the name. I mean admit it, as much as all of the star wars fans out there who loathed the last one because it was reduced to a childs film with idiotic childlike characters, they all still bought the film when it came out on VHS, and they will all buy it again when its released on DVD in October.
This guy just wants a national voice, and wants to be the one who says hes responsible for getting a major motion pictures title changed.
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Posted by AXEMAN (bigturnerfish@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 5:43 AM
The point I think Brady is trying to make is that we are such die hard fans that Lucas could sell a box set of his neigbours vacation and we'd buy it. How many sets of the original trilogy do you own on VHS? Anyway, good luck Mr. Nelson.
Chewy 3:16
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Posted by AXEMAN (bigturnerfish@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 5:43 AM
P.S. Do you know where to email Lucas?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 5:54 AM
This story is true. I was at the concert in Barrie, Brady Nelson did speak to the crowd. As for how far it will go, who knows. I know of at least 50 people that have emailed Lucas.
I think you go to STARWARS.com and go to community, and keep following and that is where the email address is.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 6:21 AM
my only problem with this title is that it wasn't called attack of the clones, the event was the CLONE WARS,
I had the pleasure of reading 35 expansion novels (yes I know "get a life" right, I was recovering from major back surgery, spent six months relearning how to walk, this passed the time) and in every novel I read they characters always reffered to it as the Clone Wars, NOTE: that is wars plural, now George might pull this off by naming episode two and three "Attack of the Clones", and "The Clone Wars" respectively, but I still think it is a sh*te of a title
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Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 6:54 AM
I think it is a hoax. All of you losers who want to pad George's wallet and give him positive feedback for suck ass movies...you SUCK!
I think this fictional Brady guy was created to let Lucas know that most of the public (not including the brainwashed geeks that would watch grass grow if it belonged to George Lucas) are not interested in fluff covered sh*t. Just give us a movie that has a semblance of a plot and decent dialogue. PLEASE! I want to love the Star Wars movies again!
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Posted by allknowing (you'llneverfindme.com) on August 15, 2001 7:02 AM
ya' know, I think that there are some brilliant advertising execs in Hollywood,
now we discussed this before with POTA, the movie pissed off the fans, the fans b*tched to non fans, who in turn went to the movie to see what the big deal was....$$$$$$$
now Lucas puts out a pathetic title, pisses off the fans, the fans b*tch to non fans(in the case of star wars I'm not sure there are many non fans) and everyone awaits a reaction, protests, whatever,
here's the kicker, ready, say five months before the release, Lucas publically changes the title, the fans love it, eveyone and there dog goes to see it...$$$$$$$
Lucas comes out "the people's director" because he "listens to his fans".....
just a theory, noticed a trend.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 7:31 AM
This is just upsetting...
I'm hesitant to call my self a huge star wars fan like I used to. Sadly, that has nothing to do with the movies. I'm sick of the so-called fans, who don't actually seem to be fans.
How can you be a fan of something when you b*tch about it being re-released, b*tch about the content, b*tch about the title, b*tch about the lack of DVD, and then have the cajones and decide you're mighty enough to re-edit the whole thing and distribute it over the internet. Talk about attack of the clones.
And just what is wrong with "Attack of the Clones?"
A: that's probably what the movie is about...
B: the title is still "star wars," AOTC is merely the chapter title...
C: when you think about it, "Star Wars" is a pretty damn cheesy title too, I'd be more intrigued by a film just called "Attack of the Clones" than a film just called "Star Wars"
D: have any of you actually watched the original star wars lately? they are CHEESE. that excited feeling you get is called nostalgia, from when you were young and not-so-fvcking-critical-and-b*tchy. i think the so-called fans are just upset because they grew up, while the new movies still serve the same age. Try going into it like you're 6 again, you won't be disappointed.
I just wish so-called star wars fans didn't feel like they are "owed" something.
The first ones made you happpy, sure, that's wonderful, be greatful for that...the rest might not, hey that's life. but the chapter title sure as hell isn't going to make or break the movie, only your spoiled-brat mentality.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 7:37 AM
at this point i request a moment of silence for Chewbacca the Wookie,
may he rest in piece
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Posted by lnb3d (lnb3d@midsouth.rr.com) on August 15, 2001 8:18 AM
I understand this guy's frustration with the title. After that turd Phantom Menace, maybe he's just afraid we're in for it again. I hate all this "it's just a movie" talk when it isn't just a movie! Here's the issue. Lucas made a movie for us when we were kids and it spawned a sub-culture all it's own, and now, in this fan's opinion, he's not catering at all to the people who put him where he is today. The ones of us who bought every toy, every incarnation of video release, etc. How can we help but feel a little betrayed? I completely understand this guy's feelings about this. Phantom Menace was just a plain lousy story with some crappy characters, lame dialogue, abuse of cgi, etc., and this guy along with many others, is probably expecting the worst, and really would like something better than this "it's just a movie-Saturday morning serial" slop. Surely there is a more ominous and appropriate title for this supposedly darker and more serious film. I'm afraid that we can only expect more lame titles, story, etc. The old trilogy was made by a young artist who, I believe, cared about a decent story. This next trilogy is being made by a fat old billionaire, the Phantom Merchant.
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 8:27 AM
Bravo! Nicely stated.
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 8:43 AM
Lamest. Publicity. Stunt. Ever.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 8:51 AM
Bravo! I was thinking the same think myself.
I watched the original when it was re-released a couple of years ago and I was cringing during most of the dialog.
It's amazing how something you think was so cool when you're 11 can really be so cheesy when 35 rolls around.
LOSERS!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 8:52 AM
Look, all you pathetic Star Wars geeks, having a sh*tty title won't make the whole movie sh*tty. The lousy acting, senile director, and 4 yr old target audience will do it regardless.
P.S.
My roomate is a Star Wars follower, so that's why I have so much anger toward star wars fans in general.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 8:56 AM
The "Phantom Merchant" indeed! I agree, Lucas is the biggest sell out in the history of film. The fans deserve better.
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Posted by southern_jedi21 (askme_@mysecret.com) on August 15, 2001 8:57 AM
I have been a Starwars Fan for many years now.
My mother went to see Star Wars: A New Hope When I was a 2, and took me. She said I jumped up and down, and my eeys got really big at the lights ( Laser Effects )) I've always loved that Galaxy Far Far Away. Althought I will admit that the title for Episode 2 is cheezy and down right retarded, It's still starwars, So if your a true starwars fan, Then I'll see you at the movies. And may the force be with you, Always.
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Posted by southern_jedi21 (askme_@mysecret.com) on August 15, 2001 9:01 AM
^ And sorry about my spelling, Am having problems typing today
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 9:10 AM
maybe you should find a hobby???
hmmmm....just a thought
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 9:35 AM
You know Fredhater I had you all wrong. I see your name pop up every once in awhile and you always have some lame negative remarks (i.e. Your comments in the Episode:II new title announcement letters). This time you actually have a good point and sincerity to go with it. My apologies for misjudging you.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 9:36 AM
To The RANDOM SHEMP who has a problem with people voicing thier opinion. I don't know where you live, but STAR WARS is an American movie, and here in the U.S. of A. we have the right to voice our opinions, even if its down right annoying. You don't like it, here's my opinion chump, I don't give a rats ass.
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 10:09 AM
Fred is a very bright guy.
As a former random shemp poster ( duh-- not all random shemp posting--you guys are not all that bright)
I eventually got the impression Fred could contibute more than what he was giving. And therefore so could I and everyone else who is NOT a random shemp. SO log in and give dtheatre a break and help them raise the bar.
And click on some of the banner ads to help pay for this cool site. End of ass-kissing session. My lips are cracked, chapped and bleeding. back to the thread...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 11:49 AM
Hoax or no hoax, Brady's words still ring true...The bad title is a reflection of things to come.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 12:04 PM
Lucas should save us all from the title of 'Attack of the Clones' by waking-up! and changing it back to 'Clone Wars'. He should be ashamed of himself, and save us from the agony of such a STUPID B-Movie Title!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 12:32 PM
Should be called "Star Wars II: Send in the Clones"
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Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 12:48 PM
Nice one loser, too bad we read it about 50 times.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 2:15 PM
1) Less people to clog up the theatre when it opens. Good news for me and the kids..
2) He can call it whatever he likes and people will still watch it.
3) It doesnt matter what he calls it people are going to complain about it anyways whether the problem is the title, acting, script, whatever.
IMHO, I think the problem is that when most of us first saw IV, V, and VI we were kids and it seemed like the greatest movie. So now we are expecting to walk away with the same feeling but it's not going to happen because we are all older now. My kids loved Phantom Menace, especially jar jar... after all, it is a kids movie...
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 2:31 PM
Only if he makes it a kids movie. The first Star Wars Movie was an adult movie. Remember the disintigrated bodies, and dumping the dead jawas in the fire. Lucas can redeem himself if he wants to, or he can carry on the BS from Phantom Menace.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 2:32 PM
this story is stupid. "attack of the clones" is a cool name. this guy is moron. why am i even wasting my time? bye bye
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 2:43 PM
Hey brady,
When you shell out $115
million to make your movie, call it whatever like. If you were a die hard fan you'd be flattered if Lucas called it "Episode 2: Brady get's gang raped by Jawas".
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Posted by power-trip (powertripz@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 3:12 PM
100% I agree with you about A New Hope being an adult movie when it first came out. However, Lucas' initial vision sure didn't measure up latter in the special edition. He turned Han Solo's outright cold blooded murder of Greedo into self-defense and Jabba into a blubbering idiot. If that isn't a change of heart then I'll swallow my light saber (insert childish remarks here).
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 3:23 PM
Ya know, at first I ditn' like the title. But a few days before I read this news post, I decided it really does fit it with the SW motif. Oh, and I didn't think JarJar was anything to be upset about. I mean, Lucas seems to love goofy characters that him. This isn't "Gone with the Wind" or "Glory." This is sci-fi at it's purest...we know it's lame but we still love it to death :)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 4:27 PM
a sell out?? the minute a person allows his work to be published he is "selling out". i can't belive all this crap about the title...all the titles sucked. most of the movies werent even that good...if you have a problem about the title, or the content of the phantom menace. why don't you go see another movie? it isn't nessecary to b*tch and moan about things that are as trivial as a title. whatever....i prolly won't go see it anyways.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 4:44 PM
Your way off the mark there brother. I can agree with some of that, but not the Jar Jar baloney. That stupid character made me want to vomit upon watching the Phantom Menace when it first came out. I was shocked at the complete inappropriateness (whatever) of it. Before that movie, I always thought Lucas was more than a man, but less than a god. Right out the window. Sure the Ewoks were friggin stupid, but this was just plain awful. It marked the end of an era, the original trilogy was amazing, but Jar Jar along with down right painful dialouge, a little kid who can't act for sh!t, and some silly creatures is a lot more than just a stain. A lot more.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 15, 2001 5:33 PM
I was at the concert and let me tell you, Brady Nelson knows how to control a crowd. I was at first unsure of what he was telling us, but soon it all made sense. He not only spoke of the above mentioned topic but also of new ideas about energy, life, and the universe in general. Did you know that THE SPEED OF LIGHT is NOT A CONSTANT! -- Brady Nelson
He mathematically proved this point during a 3 minute presentation before the concert.
I have heard great speakers before (Stephen Hawkings, Clint Eastwood, and Gordon Lightfoot to mention a few)..
Watch the future for Brady Nelson and his ideas.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 15, 2001 6:54 PM
Nice try Brady, perhaps up in Canada your considered inspiring. In the U.S. your a clown.
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Posted by MarcusJulianus (mush@attbi.com) on August 15, 2001 7:51 PM
Perhaps that should be 'clone'?(grin)
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Posted by Azad (eka@dtheatre.com) on August 15, 2001 10:47 PM
Sure it's one hell of a cheezey title.. but just as a side issue, if that will indeed be the final title.. I can't help but imagine having Bruce Campbell in it.. teleporting into the Star Wars universe as his bad ass character of Ash...
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 1:48 AM
i dunno, I actually found Jar Jar quite funny.......
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Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 16, 2001 6:34 AM
We are "owed" something dipsh*t, the second we fork over $10 to watch the s.o.b.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 7:19 AM
I'd like to know how many of these "fans" of Star Wars saw it in the movie theater in 1977. Attack of the Clones may be a campy title, but all the SW movies are based on the same plot premise that most westerns and classic kung fu movies are about. Some of those have equally cheesy titles. Even the characters are pretty much formulaic.
I remember when Empire was released, I was nearly slobbering with anticipation to see it. However, after years of disappointing speculation over new episodes, Lucas lost too much face with his fans. He was expected to bring some sort of divinely inspired movie in Episode 1, but I doubt even 2 or 3 will even measure up to "fan" expectations. This whole commotion over the title is bullcrap the real issue is that people want to inflect their own ideas of what Star Wars should be on Lucas' vision.
Anyhow, this rant is through. My opinion? Go with the flow, enjoy the bloody movie or don't and stop b*tching about Jar Jar. Jawa's and Ewoks are just about as annoying, but cost less to produce.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 7:25 AM
Haha! This is pathetic! You all really are a loser bunch aren't you!
The fact alone that you put effort in this nonsense!
I feel sorry for nerds like you all, who even care!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 7:28 AM
I'd suggest then, that you not waste your money on any possible future disappointments. This applies to any movie, music, book or art as well, since most of these forms are pay-per-view means of entertainment media. Either that, or call up Lucas, Spielburg or Reiner and get your money back. I'm sure they have a 30 day satisfaction guarantee, right?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 7:56 AM
isn't it always nice to have the lowest rung of society sharing their limited "thoughts" before they get drunk beat their children,
thanx
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 7:57 AM
gasoline huffer
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Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 16, 2001 8:40 AM
Thats a brilliant bit of logic there wise-guy, fortunately, with most of the forms of entertainment you can get an adequate assesment of the quality , prior to seeing it.
This is impossible with any movie created and produced by Spielberg and Lucas, they have their fists pounded way to deep up hollywood's ass, and yours too it seems.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 8:52 AM
The guy is canadian and if there is an american that follows a canadian then their really not an American. You all make my ass twitch. Shut the hell up we don't want to hear your ignorence. Damn canadians!! Always starting something.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 10:00 AM
Learn to spell please. Are you a gungan or something?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 10:54 AM
Oh Yes, Canadians always starting trouble where they aren't wanted. God help us if Americans did something like that.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 11:39 AM
I hear ya! I'm guessing you voted Bush too? No wait....you're probably not old enough to vote..never mind.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 16, 2001 1:08 PM
ok, we are "owed" entertainment for the whopping $10 we paid, (but around here a ticket still costs $6)
and i think that $10 (or $6) has always been adequately covered by all of the star wars movies especially episode I. TPM certainly covered my cheap ticket price.
if you pay $5 for a big mac value meal do you feel like you're "owed" a night out at chasen's?
someone explain to me why so many star wars fans grew up to be such whiny brats.
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Posted by suspended (suspendedanimation@hotmail.com) on August 18, 2001 7:19 PM
We are owed? I just realized you were nothing more than one of those people that think that everybody owes them something. "We are owed" ooohh you sound so mad. Give it a break pal if it's so bad then just jump off of a bridge.
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Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on August 20, 2001 6:52 AM
How very perceptive of you, why don't you go buy some Firestone's and a Ford SUV. Then you can drive off a bridge, any time a person spends money they should feel entitled to a degree of quality in direct proportion to the standards created by past performance.
The hype created by Lucas creates an expectation in his audience to see a film head and shoulders above its predecessor, what we got from Episode I was a blow out at 50. mph.
Now for the sake of the dying genre I would like him to create a movie that is not geared for 4 year old children, 32 year old children should be his target audience.
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Posted by evilDoll (evildoll@theimpaler.com) on August 20, 2001 10:11 AM
"Attack of the Clones" woudl be a great title for a docu on American culture...
voting Bush has now become the newest 2nd grade insult...I love it...
gosh, I love America. Nowhere else can one get away with blatant inanity and ignorance to the degree that Americans do...that's why I love my country...faults come so easily, and are so easily excused! *wipes tear*
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 20, 2001 1:16 PM
Our Northern Little Sister is not so bad, many consider her the 52nd State after Mexico.
Regardless of what name the movie takes, as long as its geared towards adults this time, we may be in for another great movie. I for one am not holding my breath. Is it feasible that number 2 & 3 could be better than #4? The odds are against it. I've lost my faith in Lucas. As much as it pains me to think about it, more than likley the next "Raiders" will suck too. Lucas will find a way to put in a cute character. I really hope he proves me wrong.
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Posted by Little Old Lady English (oldhousemom@razorback.com) on August 20, 2001 4:51 PM
100%, I hate to say it, but the bottom line is "Phantom Menace" grossed 400 million in domestic ticket sales alone. How many Americans today will say, yup, I'll take only a quarter of my profits just so I can appeal to a much narrower audience? We live in the era of greed and greenbacks.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 20, 2001 5:58 PM
He's already wealthier than most countries on this planet. The world will see this movie one way or another, what's to stop him from creating a true masterpiece?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2001 5:16 AM
FINALLY, someone gets it!! PUBLICITY, PUCLICITY, PUBLICITY. To all the rest, TOO MUCH FREE TIME!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2001 5:20 AM
Misspelling doesn't count.(^_^)
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Posted by not_yoda (No Email) on August 21, 2001 12:58 PM
Doesn't "Star Wars: Clone Wars" sound kinda redundant? (Not that "Attack of the Clones" sounds any BETTER, just making a point...)
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2001 2:10 PM
If you were a REAl fan you'd shutup and watch the movie when it comes out. Nobody cares if you don't like the title. If you don't like it--don't watch it.
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Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on August 21, 2001 2:35 PM
RANDOM SHEMP:
This is a chat site, we discuss our views on lots of stuff pertaining to Digital Entertainment. This thread is about the upcoming Star Wars movie, and opinions about lots of things other than just the title, like the addition of Gabe Byrne, and hopefully the subtraction of silly characters, much like yourself. You know, as long as we are speaking,just how much vacation time do you get in Iraq per year?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2001 5:05 PM
This is all silly. Brady Nelson is the biggest geek in history. Protesting a Star Wars title?? He must have alot of free time on his hands. And how could you say that you were abused by George Lucas?? You're on who paid to go see the movie! Get a life.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 21, 2001 5:28 PM
Well kept sir! I enjoy reading your lines of thinking.
Being far from Toronto, Ontario (home of the next Wrestlemania!), I did some research on the subject. I'm pretty sure that this growing protest is real, since I have customers in Barrie who have seemed to hear stuff about this.
Who knows? The listed bands are pretty lame...
- Darth Kuomdo
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Posted by scichick (imscichick@ivillage.com) on August 22, 2001 7:46 PM
I agree the titles can be lame, and that 'phantom menace' was a bit lacking, but I'm hoping when the trilogy is complete, we will have ONE great story!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 10:17 AM
Exactly. If Lucas was REALLY abusive, he'd have named it "Star Wars Episode II: Send in the Clones".
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 3:06 PM
I have to say that I would have been more inclined to take your story seriously if you had at least proof read it. Even my nine year old was laughing at your lack of correct grammer. As for the attack of the clones. What is the big deal? Sounds like it could be interesting, and knowing Lucas it is sure to have a twist to the title. Anyone who would by three VHS versions of the same movie has a bit of a problem in my opinion. I say get a life. Star Wars is supposed to be fun, but obsessing over it can only dull the pleasure.
LMT Richmond, VA
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 7:53 PM
Right on dude, 'nuff said! I concider myself to be a true Star Wars fan and couldn't have said it better myself!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 8:18 PM
I think that if you approach the films as entertainment instead of some mighty revelation on the meaning of life, The Universe, and Everything you will be able to actually enjoy the movies. Stop analyzing every point it is a work of fiction for crying out loud. If this is what you want to spend your time on so be it but jeez people it is a title, Get a life!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 23, 2001 8:19 PM
Come on people!!! It's a movie that isn't even gonna be released for another year!!!!!! Stop bitching about a tentative title and just wait for the final cut and release of a finished product!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 24, 2001 5:55 AM
LMT Richmond VA
Like the dull pleasure you get as your nine yearold bobs up and down on ya knob. How do ya like thems grammers!
A random Curly Joe
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Posted by Mortis (jpmoeller@hotmail.com) on August 24, 2001 7:25 AM
Could we please leave Shemp out of this? The man deserves better.
Thank you.
President, Michigan Chapter of S.H.E.M.P.
free_shemp@hotmail.com
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 25, 2001 11:56 PM
Hey Brady, get a damn life! Just a hint.
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Posted by Chippewagirl58 (no e-mail) on August 26, 2001 9:03 AM
I'm always surprised by the stupidity out there. Are the fans so bored with life that all they have to do is complain about a movie or a great guy like Lucas?
My life is so incredible and busy, that I don't even have enough time to write this, but I have a voice a short opinion.
I can't understand why a few of the Star Wars fans, (I use that term loosely), have to try to cause a lot of trouble for others.
It's true, you have grown up, and you need to recognize that and shut up about these little things that you cry about.
All of your energy is devoted to complaining and whining! Why don't you apply that energy to doing something positive for a change!
Get a grip, will ya?
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Posted by Chippewagirl58 (no e-mail) on August 26, 2001 9:05 AM
So here's a new concept!
DON'T FORK OUT THE $10 FOR THIS MOVIE! D/S!
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Posted by Chippewagirl58 (no e-mail) on August 26, 2001 9:06 AM
Cheers to ya! Good job!
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Posted by Chippewagirl58 (no e-mail) on August 26, 2001 9:11 AM
Do you really think we're all THAT dumb? I don't! Well, maybe some are, but most aren't. Give people some credit.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 26, 2001 3:26 PM
big deal, get FULL TIME work!dork
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2001 2:32 AM
f*ck you a--hole! 51st state my ass. If it were'nt for Canada you idiots would not even have made it to the moon. Look up Avro Arrow on the net. As well, do you actually believe that Americans make all the great movies by themselves? Check out how many actors, directors & writers are Canadian goof! You are the typical ignorant asswipe American that does not know sh*t about anything outside your own country. Do some research moron!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2001 8:07 AM
I hear even Obi-Wan (Ewan Mcgregor) is pissed about the new title. The guy's got balls to say his piece. The rest of you can get in line and lick George's sell-out ass.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 27, 2001 8:16 AM
Dear LMT Richmond VA,
Ironically enough, "grammer" as you wrote is spelled "grammar" but that's not surprising coming from an in-breeder. Good luck Brady!
Why Not "Attack of the Clones"?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 30, 2001 10:36 PM
If you really call yourselves so called "fans". You would know that in Star Wars IV, A New Hope, Obi Wan Kenobi (Old Ben) Talked about Anakin Skywalker Fighting in the Clone Wars. I don't know what the problem is with the title Attack of the Clones if you don't like the title don't buy the movie and if you thknk your doing a good job at making your point your not.
Why Not "Attack of the Clones"?
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
If you really call yourselves so called "fans". You would know that in Star Wars IV, A New Hope, Obi Wan Kenobi (Old Ben) Talked about Anakin Skywalker Fighting in the Clone Wars. I don't know what the problem is with the title Attack of the Clones if you don't like the title don't buy the movie and if you thknk your doing a good job at making your point your not.
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2004 5:48 PM
Fred the Idiot!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2004 5:50 PM
Don't you people have any thing better to do then protest about a Starwars movie. Lucas has done a exellent job making his movies, so get a life!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2004 5:51 PM
Don't you people have any thing better to do then protest about a Starwars movie. Lucas has done a exellent job making his movies, so get a life!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2004 5:51 PM
Don't you people have any thing better to do then protest about a Starwars movie. Lucas has done a exellent job making his movies, so get a life!!!!!
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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on August 5, 2004 5:59 PM
You couldn't be more right than that