Another New Lord of the Rings Trailer

By Jack May 25, 2001 11:32 AM

New trailer out on a bunch of LOTR fan sites, this trailer's a lot more creepy and we get to hear a little more of the story in a voiceover by Ian McKellen's Gandalf. This trailer is a result of a change in the marketing staff of the movie.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 25, 2001 5:44 PM

It's in fricken German! (article not trailer . . .)

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 25, 2001 9:34 PM

Figures, some dumbass didn't do their homework!!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 25, 2001 9:35 PM

Anybody have a German translator!!

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Posted by Pumpkin Boy (pumpkin_pie_studios@hotmail.com) on May 25, 2001 9:53 PM

Der Lieberflabbin ach fraumilch tung farvenuugen da volkswagen--
Uh, sorry, folks. I don't even know what that says...
And my sorry excuse is: SLEEP DEPRIVATION!

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Posted by The walking dead (robertdowneyjr@jail.com) on May 26, 2001 9:03 AM

Bratwurst, saurkraut, fukingruven.....well, that's all the German for me.............HELP!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 10:12 AM

You've all (presumably) just seen the most incredible preview of what is promising to be one of the greatest cinematic achievements of all time, and all you can do is whine about GERMAN?!!!  Are you all nuts?!!  It's a freakin' German web site, what would you expect? Don't you have anything to say about the trailer?

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 10:12 AM

You've all (presumably) just seen the most incredible preview of what is promising to be one of the greatest cinematic achievements of all time, and all you can do is whine about GERMAN?!!!  Are you all nuts?!!  It's a freakin' German web site, what would you expect? Don't you have anything to say about the trailer?

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Posted by MarcusJulianus (mush@attbi.com) on May 26, 2001 11:41 AM

I'll comment on the Trailer, 'Bloody,Effing, awesome!' I'm shivering with antici.....(say it)pation. These next 6 months are going to drag,drag,drag.:-{

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 5:37 PM

Its in German because we own you freaks, its far better this way than in English!

   By the way 100% American, we nazis think that your a dirty, stupid, stinky, boring, sell-out, whoring, jewish, dick head!!!

   We'll find you red white and blue boy!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 5:39 PM

How do you nazis know 100% American is a man?

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 5:42 PM

GOOD POINT!

100% has had battles with Fred Hater, the British, Mets Fan, Twan, Red, Dean, Walking Undead, and now the Nazis!!!!!

I love this site!

oh...the news is good too.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 26, 2001 11:15 PM

Looks to be better than I had hoped.  Can't wait for December.

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Posted by SciFiGuy (vbprgrmr@yahoo.com) on May 27, 2001 8:48 AM

`Yes.  It's unfortunate that the first comments were flames, considering there was an English translation at the BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.  Also, in case people forget, English is a germanic language.  So some of the German was readable. For example:'Der Trailer ist 2:28 Minuten lang.'
  Although, half of our language comes from the French conquest of England from 700AD-1000+AD, which carries the Roman roots of their subjection by Rome, the Anglo-Saxon roots are germanic.  That's why the French, Spanish, Italian and English carry Roman elements in their languages.  Yet, if you look closely, English also has many commonalities with northern Europe like Scandinavia.  

  It may explain why 'Lord of the Rings' are so popular.  We get to look at our past and roots even though its in a mythical format.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 28, 2001 7:07 PM

Thanks, professor.

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Posted by kruser79 (No Email) on May 29, 2001 5:24 AM

My God, the whining I was forced to traverse before reaching decent conversation!  I'm a neophyte and still had the sense to scroll to the bottom (although the ability to speak German made that unnecessary).  December looks like a month to outline in red folks!

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on May 29, 2001 8:28 PM

Damn!!! Cool Trailer....too bad the Germans got their first. Guess their saving the best for last.

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on June 6, 2001 2:41 AM

While the bulk of what you say is true, I feel I must correct a few details.  French influences on English are a result of the NORMAN conquest; not French.  Though Normandy belonged to France, the Duke of Normandy acted on his own in usurping the English throne.  In fact, he later was forced by the King of France to choose between fealty to England or to Normandy, and ultimately lost his dukedom.  Before that time, Old English was the language of England.  Of course they didn't know it was old at the time.  (just a little linguistic humour.)  After the conquest, OE continued to be spoken, but only by the yeomanry.  The elite spoke Norman French.  The assimilation of French lexical items happened over many many years.
Also, since you brought up language families (English being of the Germanic) I think it's important to distinguish (since you speak of them as a group at one point) the families of various European languages.  French, Spanish and Italian are all Romance languages, while Latin (not ROMAN) is Italic.  While it's true that there was much linguistic influence from Latin on the Romance languages due to the Roman occupation of most of Europe, many of the similarites are inherited from a far older ancestor.  The Italic, the Romance, the Germanic, the Slavic, and numerous others are all descendants of Indo-European.  So, not all commonalities between French (for example) and Latin are due necessarily to the Roman occupation of modern-day France.  Instead, they may be because they both hail from a common source.  Of the same token, this also means that not all commonalities between English and French are due to French influence, but instead can be attributed to common heritage.  This also explains how Russian (an example of Slavic language) can bear any affinity to English since we know that the Roman Empire did not extend into modern-day Russia and Russian never came close enough to have any significant influence on English.  Even Sanskrit (as Sir William Jones so aptly discovered) is related to English via Indo-European.
Now, on a far more relevant note, J.R.R. Tolkien was a linguist of great renown.  He spoke fluent Anglo-Saxon (or Old English..they are one in the same) and taught it at Oxford University where he himself studied.  In fact, he occasionally corresponded to his son Christopher in the language.  OK, so what does this have to do with Lord of the Rings?  A great deal.  Almost all of the names and proper nouns in Lord of the Rings were conjured from Old English roots.  In fact, Tolkien usually had the name before he had the person, place or thing developed.  Just as an example, the word Hobbit came from a modified OE construct: Holbytla, which can be generally translated as hole-builder.  From the meaning of the word Tolkien "discovered", as he said, Hobbits instead of inventing them and later applying the name.  So you certainly touched on something when you asserted that historical linguistics might have some bearing on the popularity of the series.  
I could go on forever, but this is far more than most of you care to read anyway, so I'll cease for now.  However, if you'd like to discuss it further, my e-mail address is Perdedor9@excite.com

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Posted by DeadGrin (lazerdude@hotmail.com) on June 6, 2001 3:58 AM

www.freetranslation.com

you can do text or whole pages

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Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on July 20, 2001 8:55 AM

Staying on the subject:
Nice little rant...
but really, i am interested, do you have any more examples what the names of some of the other characters are based, i.e. which Anglo-Saxon words? What are your sources, are there any books specializing on the analysis and of language in LOTR?