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Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?

Topic: News By Acheron April 16, 2001 6:58 AM

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(E!) 20th Century Fox claims that a new live action TV produced by Marvel Comics, called Mutant X, is virtually identical to the X Men movie, and could jeopardize the success of the upcoming sequels. ?Fox filed a lawsuit on Tuesday.

Marvel Comics then counter sued (minutes later) stating that the series is legitimate, and that it doesn't create unfair competition. ?The characters and premise are completely different, Marvel claims. The company also says it can't be found to be infringing its own trademarks.

Fox, however, put in its 1993 contract with Marvel that the comic book company would never create a similar live action series without Fox's permission. ?Also, according to Fox, Marvel has been using the success of the movie to promote Mutant X.

Though Marvel tirelessly claims that the two shows characters and plots are completely different, similarities are more than noticeable. ?Both properties focus on mutants out to save their genetic brethren from the sinister government forces. Both groups possess super powers to fight for good. And both use the "X" moniker, that symbolizes "mutant superhero" to any seasoned comic geek.

It sounds like a very sticky situation that the two are going to have to work out. ?Its a shame that the original franchise could be lessened by a rip-off, but it could very well happen. ?I hope it doesn't put a damper on the upcoming sequels.

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RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 16, 2001 9:16 AM

It's incredible that Marvel gave up the right to do 'X' based live action, considering they created the 'X' franchise.  Notice they created the X-Men. Then there was the X-factor and X-Force and various other X titles and teen mutant characters and groups.

It's even more amazing considering X-files is really a ripoff of the 1963 created X-Men, where you have a person (Professor Xavier) searching out super-powered mutants.  Is that any different then Scully and Mulder searching out criminals with powers?

RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 16, 2001 1:28 PM

Just about every single X team n the Marvel universe is fighting for fair treatment for mutants.  Its nothing new, at all.  Plus Mutant X is actually a comic book (whether the show is based on it or not is yet to be seen).

RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on April 17, 2001 6:44 AM

I have no ideal what "X-Men" and "X-Files" have to do with each other.

Marvel screwed up, a contract is a contract.

They should forget about "X-Mem" anyway that titles been hacked to death, there are lots of other great titles they can work on.

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 17, 2001 9:44 AM

Actually, it's "X-Men," not "X-Mem." I have one word for you, just one: PROOFREAD!!!

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on April 17, 2001 10:17 AM

"ouch" you really got me there random Shemp.

Of course we still really want to hear how "X Files" is a rip off of the "X-Men", this should be good

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on April 17, 2001 10:39 AM

who has time to proofread a posting to this site?

Get a job loser and stop sponging off of your grandma.

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 17, 2001 6:45 PM

Again with this amazing insight!  Dammit, Freddy, you were able to tell he sponges his grandma in one post?  You must be like that Cleo lady on the psychic hotline commercials!!  only b*tchier.

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 17, 2001 6:47 PM

huh?  I'm sorry, I read over the article three times, and I don't see it ever mentioning how "X-Men" is a rip-off of "X-Files."  That other guy at the top was simply comparing/contrasting the basic plotlines of "X-Men" and "X-Files."

Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 18, 2001 8:27 AM

Fox Lawyers are trying to shut down a website called whyfiles.org. for being in violation of X-Files copyright.  Yet, it is nothing more then a Science News webpage from a University.  (See following for more information.)


http://slashdot.org/yro/01/03/14/2238201.shtml


So I wondered, If Fox is so eager to sue people, how would they like it?

When the X-Files first came out I wondered if Marvel would sue Fox because of their X-Men copyrights.

'X' being the unknown factor and Charles Xavier searching out the young people with the Xtra powers from genetic mutations. No different then Scully and Mulder searching out the criminals who all seem to be mutations. But Marvel never pursued Fox, even though the X-Men were created in 1963 and remain Marvels most popular titles.


Not that I think they should have sued Fox.  Only that there were enough similarities to wonder. So I think Fox should leave Marvel and whyfiles.org alone as well as the people who set up fan sites for the Simpsons and X-Files that Fox always tries to shut down.

RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 18, 2001 1:00 PM

Did you even take Algebra?  X has ALWAYS been the "unknown factor."  Maybe the guy who invented Algebra should sue both Marvel and Fox.

RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on April 19, 2001 6:37 AM

That would be Al Jabr an ancient arabic mathmatician. (Its true)

I think under Islamic law someone is going to get their hands chopped off over this.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 19, 2001 7:32 AM

Your RIGHT as always Freddy my Lover!

               - Twan

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on April 19, 2001 1:26 PM

Why thank you TWAN you silly bastard.

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by 100% AMERICAN (hellskitchen_@hotmail.com) on April 19, 2001 1:56 PM

His exact word was rip off, now I'm still interested in hearing this.



RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 19, 2001 2:00 PM

Freddy,

 I can't be a bastard....we have the same parents. For those of you who are confused by our conversation: Freddy is my boy freind, and lover. I'm Twan a typical male from the U.K. Cheers all.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 19, 2001 7:01 PM

Please keep away from this site, faggot.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 19, 2001 7:16 PM

Damn, first we have to deal with Freddy's amazingly overwhelming insight, and now we have to deal with @$$hole homophobes who are so petrified and so hateful toward gay people that they can't even stand visiting the same web site as one?  Oh boy oh boy, lucky we....(And by the way, ya hateful bastard, the guy was probably joking around)

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on April 20, 2001 1:52 PM

I agree with the dipsh*t, we don't ridicule TWAN because he is gay, we rip on him because he is an annoying idiot. So keep your intolerant banter out of here you freaking NAzi.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 20, 2001 2:19 PM

Thank you Freddy...but truth be told, I'm a gay nazi. The guy who called me a fag is my other lover.

      TWAN

RE: RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 20, 2001 9:09 PM

Well if you want to get exact and technical about what was said, "rip off" is two words, there for his exact word could not have been rip off.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 20, 2001 9:30 PM

Looks like twice now, we've agreed on something, Freddy-boy. (three times, if you count the "dipsh*t" remark).

By the way, which Fred do you hate exactly?  I'm gambling on either Fred Durst or Fred Astaire.  Please: enlighten me.  But not with your previous amazing insight, please.  ;P

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by TheUndeadChick (zombiebme@yahoo.com) on April 20, 2001 10:22 PM

I don't post here too often...just every now and again. But I must say, I do love reading down through the threads. It doesn't even matter what the topic is. It's always a good hoot. Thank you, every one of you, for making my occasional trip here too entertaining and yes, even invigorating.

By the way...how could anyone really hate Fred Astaire? He was one rockin' MoFo (and snappy dresser)...besides, he's dead. Give him a break, eh?

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 21, 2001 11:33 AM

Yep, Fred Astaire was truly a cool guy. I think ZZ Top said it best..."Ladies go crazy for a sharp dressed man." BTW, X-Men and X-Files have NOTHING in common other than the letter X. Geez...get a grip willyaz???

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by pellis214 (No Email) on April 21, 2001 5:30 PM

Now that we're done picking apart each other's grammar and now that the personal attacks have apparently ceased, I'd still like to know how her original poster thought X-Files was a rip off of the X-Men franchise.  The whole super-powered criminals thing is just one minor aspect of the show.

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 23, 2001 5:41 AM

my lover was refering to Fred Flinstone you meat heads!

TWAN

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 23, 2001 5:42 AM

I THOUGHT ALL NAZIS WERE GAY

RE: RE: RE: Why X-Files Could be Ripoff   > reply

Posted by FredHater (fred_hater@hotmail.com) on April 23, 2001 2:16 PM

I can't stand Fred Flintstone, I thought he was an annoying boorish ass.

Like TWAN, but in the closet.

RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by the watcher (No Email) on April 24, 2001 11:33 AM

it is too bad that the people exploiting the genre, don't read the comic books that they are trying to make money from.  Mutant X and the X-Men are two entirely different series, as are X-Man, X-Force, Uncanny X-Men.  They all deal with basically the same storyline, yet each are unique in their prespectives and ultimate goals.  When Stan Lee created the Marvel Universe 39 years ago, a comic universe was conceived containing many types of superheroes and supervillians.  Because there is only one prime earth in this universe all of these same S.H.'s & S.V.'s co-habitait this planet.  Crossover storylines sometimes happen as they do in real life.  While some of the same chacters may share a stage occasionally, each one - group or individual - remains an entity to itself.

RE: RE: Marvel Comics X Men Rip-off?   > reply

Posted by A random shemp (No Email) on April 29, 2001 1:59 PM

but what about your lives?



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